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Short of terrorism, I'm not sure theres's much difference between his ideology and a good % of the cons on the board.
Now there's nobody on the right and anti-government is centrist and they have a picture to prove it. Why engage that?
Tragedies reveal you. It’s ugly as hell.
So you’d be wary around us? Afraid we’d do you harm? Ideology leads to the action right?
Yes, Dan is left of center. I'm left of center. Mega is left of center. Been is left of center. Maybe your love of all things socialism has your center too far left of the actual center to know what the center actually is?
Still can't argue with McVeigh? Why should I believe you over him?
The hilarious thing about the ever changing McVeigh narrative is that he did what he did because of Republicans in the 1990s according to Democrats. Now he did what he did because he's like Republicans according to lefties like Teen.
McVeigh hated the government regardless of what political party controlled it. He, like Ponca Dan (but in no way accusing Dan of having thoughts as equivalent to a psychopath, because Dan has never once advocated violence of any kind), saw the evil in both political parties and how they used government to abuse individuals and the rights of individuals. McVeigh was actually shaped in high school independent of any politics. He was bullied.
Ahhhh, right, right. Silly me. I'll take your word over McVeigh's because he was bad at self assessment. Anything else about him we should know, Dr. Philt?
by all means take the judgement of the guy who thought it was just to bomb a building with a first floor daycare.
Also do you have a link to this "agnostic libertarian" quote?
No, I've already stated that I'll take your word for it, Dr. Philt. You're clearly more knowledgeable about McVeigh's motivations and beliefs than he was, especially since he rationalized that the daycare on the bottom floor of a federal building he bombed was acceptable collateral damage in the grand scheme of how he felt the US government views collateral damage.
You have Google. You can find McVeigh's own words if you want to. But I wouldn't trust any of them if you read them because *checks notes* daycare.
Damn, pilt, why do you keep piling on with the insults? Actually you are correct, I am not a leftist, at least not with your understanding of what a leftist is. I’m also not a rightist. Most certainly not a Pinochet fan. I’m a full stop libertarian, a philosophical anarchist who despises every attempt by both wings of the statist culture to grow the power of the state. That puts me against you and sys and pokeabear when you advocate for government intrusion on the economy, and against Harry and ostatedchi and others who drool over every attempt by Trump and conservatives to intrude on our social well being. It’s really not that hard to understand.
Ponca Dan, you're bad at self assessment. I'll wait for Dr. Philt to tell you what you think. You should too.
There is apparently a huge need in the media to deem any horrific act as an act done by white nationalists. And for the media to use that incorrect information to drive a false narrative. McVeigh is obviously a horrible person, but he was anti-government and pissed about Waco, and his terrorist bombing was not race related.
This article posted today blames Trump for not calling out white nationalism like Clinton did.
He could learn something from President Bill Clinton, suggested Julian Zelizer. After the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing by white nationalists, Clinton denounced the "loud and angry voices in America" spreading hate, wrote Zelizer. "The debates about his words were less about a lack of empathy than his willingness to give a tough appraisal of the climate that fueled extremism."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/17/opinions/world-stunned-by-explosion-of-hate-wiedenkeller/index.html
This article posted today blames Trump for not calling out white nationalism like Clinton did.
He could learn something from President Bill Clinton, suggested Julian Zelizer. After the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing by white nationalists, Clinton denounced the "loud and angry voices in America" spreading hate, wrote Zelizer. "The debates about his words were less about a lack of empathy than his willingness to give a tough appraisal of the climate that fueled extremism."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/17/opinions/world-stunned-by-explosion-of-hate-wiedenkeller/index.html
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