What a really stupid article on the matter. Some really damning tropes in there as well.
There’s nothing stupid in what he says. If Jr is going to claim he wants violence, bloodshed and war to end then he should stand steadfast against violence, bloodshed and war regardless of the participant.
I’m surprised you read the article considering you have steadfastly refused to read my links in the past but still felt compelled to comment on what you thought they said. This article is about the brutal and inhumane reactions by the Israeli government, many of which are internationally declared war crimes, and the fact that RFK, Jr., who has championed himself as a voice for peace and reason, picked a side and dismissed the brutal and inhumane reactions as essential. The author recognizes the betrayal. So no, the article is not the crock you want it to be. Actually, since you are on record as being in full support of killing as many innocent Palestinians as necessary in order to extinguish Hamas from the face of the earth, even if it means killing every single Palestinian there is, you should find Jr’s advocacy to be very attractive.
Was this from the Vietnam era? I read Mad off and on from about 1977 to 1985, and have no memory of this feature.
Yes, someone else posted that earlier. I have great admiration and respect for Douglas Murray, but I would say in this interview he does a masterful job of setting up straw men and knocking them down.
Anecdotal, which makes it propaganda. But that doesn’t make it a lie. There’s no doubt that Hamas and other terror organizations do everything in their power to manipulate the minds of Palestinians from childhood by using propaganda of their own. Interestingly they have been somewhat feeble in their attempt. At least I think so. The absolute largest number I have seen as the total of Hamas members is 50,000. And most data sources put it between 10,000 to 30,000. Considering there are roughly 2,300,000 Palestinians in Gaza that strikes me as remarkably small. Hamas is a brutal death cult, and no one should defend what it did on Oct 7th. I know I don’t. I condemn it. But I also condemn the ten-fold brutal Israeli response. It would seem I’m the only one on this board that does.
Yeah, as painful as it is for me to agree, Bobby Jr has given me no choice. I still love his dad, though.
You also think Palestinians have voted against Hamas in the zero elections that have been held since 2006 so...
Yeah, I got out over my skis with that remark. You should probably discount anything I ever say again.
Still not voting for RFK, Jr., but what’s wrong with Zionism? Does Israel not have any right to exist?
It is interesting how vigorously you wag your finger at the rest of us while being a little light on facts yourself.
Not once in this thread have I criticized Zionism, the Jewish faith, Jewish people in general. IMO Israel has the right to exist, and Palestine has an equal right to exist. What I criticize is the rampant oppression the state of Israel has placed on Palestinians, most notably the indiscriminate bombing and massacre currently taking place. Per the OP I expected to see the same response from Bobby, Jr., and have been dismayed to see the opposite response.
Yeah I was wrong on one of my facts. As I said you should never trust my opinion again. What’s interesting to me is you assert I wag my finger at the rest of you as I defend my opinion against the onslaught, while ignoring that the rest of you wag your finger at me. But I’m a big boy, this isn’t my first rodeo.
You’re coming across as a delicate snowflake that sees dog whistles everywhere and gets triggered. Are you writing your responses from your safe space?
I'm guessing you've never been accused of introspection because your self awareness is nonexistent.
Well, the author with whom you have declared your alliance has:
How many more nits can you guys pick? The guy is upset that Jr. is endorsing warfare when he led us to believe he never would
I know you're a big boy, Ponca Dan. You posted this thread to troll. You gotta know I'm going to bust your balls a little.
Have I looked into it? No, but I’ve seen it talked about in multiple places, that the IDF misidentified some of its own people for Hamas. I have no idea if it happened, but from what I know about battle scenes I don’t discount the possibility.
Right on. If I have time I'll take a look tomorrow.
He clearly states that RFK, Jr. allying himself with Zionists is a “body blow”. He clearly sees Zionism as a problem, not the nebulous concept of “warfare”. Regardless, the moslems drew first blood, as they always do.
I’ll read your link when I can figure out how to access it (I’m a digital moron). In the meantime you might find this piece by @theintercept interesting. I’m sure @Ostatedchi will want to know about the dog whistles coming from antisemitic American Jews.
theintercept.com
Then you should dismiss anything he says as invalid. I won’t speak to his opinion of Zionism, I suspect it’s a little more complex than you want it to be, but his abhorrence of warfare is not nebulous.
