Doesn't make sense for those choices do break down along racial lines, unless...
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Doesn't make sense for those choices do break down along racial lines, unless...
Doesn't make sense for those choices do break down along racial lines, unless...
Yeah, your list was so extensive I forgot about capital gains and wealth taxes.Equality of opportunity not outcome, Dan. I think it is pretty obvious how most of the things on the shopping list de-emphasize background and wealth, and emphasize work and merit.
Let me get out my crystal ball.
You missed the part about capital gains taxes and wealth taxes?
Vouchers and let people go where they want to go.Yeah, your list was so extensive I forgot about capital gains and wealth taxes.
But tell me about banning private schools. Are you thinking that will improve the overall quality of schooling in America? Or will it reduce the quality of “elite” education down to mediocre thus leveling the playing field?
I'm thinking that's exactly what he means. Like a good communist, bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator in the name of "social justice" rather than lifting all boats.Yeah, your list was so extensive I forgot about capital gains and wealth taxes.
But tell me about banning private schools. Are you thinking that will improve the overall quality of schooling in America? Or will it reduce the quality of “elite” education down to mediocre thus leveling the playing field?
If I understand @07pilt correctly his intention is to make every school in America be government schools that are exactly identical in every way, thus leveling the playing field so income opportunities will become equal. Or at least schooling cannot be used as a barrier by white racists to keep blacks out of the good opportunities. If that is correct then vouchers and letting parents pick their children’s’ schools becomes moot, unnecessary because every school is the same, teaches the same, has the same facilities, etc. I know Pilt regards himself as a Norway style socialist (whatever that means), but it seems to me it resembles Maoism more than Norway. And I’d be curious to know how Pilt’s school system would be able to avoid indoctrination of students. Which may be fine with him because he thinks the indoctrination would be things he wants indoctrinated. But what if the reverse happened, conservatives grabbed the controls and began indoctrinating students to the horrors of collectivism/socialism? Would our friend then be quite as content with government mandated one size fits all indoctrination of things he views with horror? Let’s ask him. What say you @07pilt?Vouchers and let people go where they want to go.
Kind of disagree, I would rather educate them than chase them into the dark. Maybe we wouldn’t be where we are today if there wasn’t a McCarthy.It used to be the very worst thing you could call one of your fellow Americans is a communist. Now there is a very uncomfortably large cadré of individuals who wear it as a badge of honor.
Joseph McCarthy was, in hindsight, a hero.
Fair enough.Kind of disagree, I would rather educate them than chase them into the dark. Maybe we wouldn’t be where we are today if there wasn’t a McCarthy.
Why would America have such sharp differences in cultures?It doesn’t.
Look at first gen Black immigrants.
Again, the overriding issue culture.
If the rich and powerful have to improve the education of their children by improving the education of all children, then yes I believe it will increase the overall quality of schooling in America. Right now the rich and powerful can opt out and say **** them kids.Yeah, your list was so extensive I forgot about capital gains and wealth taxes.
But tell me about banning private schools. Are you thinking that will improve the overall quality of schooling in America? Or will it reduce the quality of “elite” education down to mediocre thus leveling the playing field?
Yeah kids from bed stuy will just voucher their way into DaltonVouchers and let people go where they want to go.
Why would America have such sharp differences in cultures?
Equalized public funding across schools is not anymore subject to indoctrination than our current state school system with unequal funding. I suspect if our elite's children are subjected to public schooling, public schools would likely spend less time on indoctrination and more on education.If I understand @07pilt correctly his intention is to make every school in America be government schools that are exactly identical in every way, thus leveling the playing field so income opportunities will become equal. Or at least schooling cannot be used as a barrier by white racists to keep blacks out of the good opportunities. If that is correct then vouchers and letting parents pick their children’s’ schools becomes moot, unnecessary because every school is the same, teaches the same, has the same facilities, etc. I know Pilt regards himself as a Norway style socialist (whatever that means), but it seems to me it resembles Maoism more than Norway. And I’d be curious to know how Pilt’s school system would be able to avoid indoctrination of students. Which may be fine with him because he thinks the indoctrination would be things he wants indoctrinated. But what if the reverse happened, conservatives grabbed the controls and began indoctrinating students to the horrors of collectivism/socialism? Would our friend then be quite as content with government mandated one size fits all indoctrination of things he views with horror? Let’s ask him. What say you @07pilt?
Because they have been in America far longer than other groups that have assimilated into Mainstream American culture.Why wouldn’t they?
Because they have been in America far longer than other groups that have assimilated into Mainstream American culture.
Oh, let's hear about this. What is "Mainstream American culture?" Who is forcing cultural assimilation in this country?Because they have been in America far longer than other groups that have assimilated into Mainstream American culture.
Irish and Italian people assimilated in far less time. Germans before them.Where on the planet is that not the case with sub populations?
We’re inherently tribal.
I don't think anyone is forcing assimilation.Oh, let's hear about this. What is "Mainstream American culture?" Who is forcing cultural assimilation in this country?
Well geez, with all that, how are there any poor white people in this country?I don't think anyone is forcing assimilation.
Just wondering, black people were on this continent in the 1600s, what were they doing in the 1700s and 1800s instead of assimilating. In the postwar era why didn't they just move to the suburbs with the good schools like the white people did. Why did they insist on going to jail for so long for drug possession. Mysteries.
I am not following your logic on that oneWell geez, with all that, how are there any poor white people in this country?
Well, it's not hard. Since racism seems to be the key to black poverty and "lack of opportunity," how come there are poor white people? I'm doubting it's a race thing, but I could be wrong.I am not following your logic on that one
Racism explains why poor people are distributed unevenly across races not the existence of poor people. Of course you know that though.Well, it's not hard. Since racism seems to be the key to black poverty and "lack of opportunity," how come there are poor white people? I'm doubting it's a race thing, but I could be wrong.
Well, shit then. Blacks can't be successful until we solve this racism thing, monetarily via the government of course, and by lowering standards for everyone else. You've proven that beyond a shadow of doubt.Racism explains why poor people are distributed unevenly across races not the existence of poor people. Of course you know that though.
Well, shit then. Blacks can't be successful until we solve this racism thing, monetarily via the government of course, and by lowering standards for everyone else. You've proven that beyond a shadow of doubt.
I'm no saint. There are limits to the sacrifices I'll make for nonsystematic change.So, what's keeping you white guilters from doing the right thing? Do you really need the government to force you to do the right thing? If you feel guilt for your skin color, pony up.
Amen.Joseph McCarthy was, in hindsight, a hero.
Why did they insist on possessing drugs?I don't think anyone is forcing assimilation.
Just wondering, black people were on this continent in the 1600s, what were they doing in the 1700s and 1800s instead of assimilating. In the postwar era why didn't they just move to the suburbs with the good schools like the white people did. Why did they insist on going to jail for so long for drug possession. Mysteries.
Aren't you some kind of fvckin' phd or something? Why aren't you teaching in one of those chitty schools instead of bantering around on a message board? Apparently you, too, have said "fvck them kids."If the rich and powerful have to improve the education of their children by improving the education of all children, then yes I believe it will increase the overall quality of schooling in America. Right now the rich and powerful can opt out and say **** them kids.
Why does anyone?Why did they insist on possessing drugs?
You ever seen rose state? Doesn't get much chittierAren't you some kind of fvckin' phd or something? Why aren't you teaching in one of those chitty schools instead of bantering around on a message board? Apparently you, too, have said "fvck them kids."
Uh, because they're an undisciplined, law-scoffing p.o.s.?Why does anyone?
That's pretty harshUh, because they're an undisciplined, law-scoffing p.o.s.?
Lies. Nobody wants to be Venezuela. Just more uneducated right wing lying talking points.Says the person who's beliefs would turn the country into Venezuela.
Let’s be real here, the war on drugs is ****ing stupid and the Nixon administration used it as a weapon against minorities and political movements he didn’t like. It’s also not a life sentence to be carried out by street justice.Uh, because they're an undisciplined, law-scoffing p.o.s.?
Come back and pontificate after you've taught at a high school or middle school in north Baton Rouge. I won't even mention New Orleans since I doubt you have it in you.You ever seen rose state? Doesn't get much chittier
Venezuela doesn’t want to be Venezuela yet there they are.Lies. Nobody wants to be Venezuela. Just more uneducated right wing lying talking points.
That would be a colossal waste of my talentCome back and pontificate after you've taught at a high school or middle school in north Baton Rouge. I won't even mention New Orleans since I doubt you have it in you.
In other words, "fvck them kids...."That would be a colossal waste of my talent
Of course there are. But hey, at least you talk a good game, right?I'm no saint. There are limits to the sacrifices I'll make for nonsystematic change.
Regardless of whether you think a particular drug should be legal or not, drug laws which have passed both houses of congress, the President's desk, and deemed constitutional by scotus are easy enough to obey. 55mph was too slow for the interstate, and yet I had no problem driving that slow.Let’s be real here, the war on drugs is ****ing stupid and the Nixon administration used it as a weapon against minorities and political movements he didn’t like. It’s also not a life sentence to be carried out by street justice.