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Any truth to this:

Here are 4 Simple questions from an attorney..... are there ANY logical answers?

You be the judge……

Here's what I would like to know. If the TRUTH ever comes out and it is decided that Obama was never eligible to be president, what happens to all the laws he signed into being and all the executive orders?
Should they all be null and void?

Here are 4 Simple questions from a reputable attorney..... this should really get your "gray matter" to churning, even if you are an Obama fan.

For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, the Kapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.

4 Simple Questions.......

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes’. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Exist?

Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". (check it below)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_(http:/en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Kenya)

3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".

This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively.

The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
(CHECK IT BELOW)

( http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx )

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?

4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936 - if my math holds (Honest! I did that without a calculator!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes ?
 
The birth certificate google brings up doesn't seem to say African-American anywhere on it, but I could be missing it. It has his father's race as African and mother's as Caucasian.

Is there another one out there?
 
1. I don’t see race on his birth certificate.
2. That’s true, but I assume that was the country given and the hospital wasn’t fact checking the country of the father.
3. The link is no help.
4. It’s not true. It’s not in his book.
 
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"Kenya was initially known as the British East Africa Protectorate, or British East Africa and it was not until 1920 that it was officially named Kenya. Parts of history has it that the name Kenya was coined from the Kamba language pronunciation of Mt Kenya's traditional name, Kirinyaga and Kinyaa"
 
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I truly worry about people. The unwillingness to check the simplest facts, the total reliance on others to do their reasoning astounds me. 4 questions, based on unverifiable assertions presented in earnest? SMH...
 
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I truly worry about people. The unwillingness to check the simplest facts, the total reliance on others to do their reasoning astounds me. 4 questions, based on unverifiable assertions presented in earnest? SMH...

Because a guy that thinks like this would never, ever, believe the initial reporting by CNN or MSNBC that was negative on Trump and later retracted:

Conviction is the last thing I want. I want a prolonged, paralyzing investigation followed by a raucous debate on whether or not to impeach including lots of innuendo about fellow travelers on the Trump Train including Pence and Ryan. At that point I would very much want 45 to steadfastly maintain his innocence and continue his intention to run for reelection, facing such a devastating primary challenge that the GOP is nothing but a smoking crater.

What's the phrase I am looking for... oh yeah "burn the ****er down" - in this case "the ****er" applies to the Trump White House and his enablers in the GOP.

14 davidallen, Mar 1, 2018
 
Because a guy that thinks like this would never, ever, believe the initial reporting by CNN or MSNBC that was negative on Trump and later retracted:

Conviction is the last thing I want. I want a prolonged, paralyzing investigation followed by a raucous debate on whether or not to impeach including lots of innuendo about fellow travelers on the Trump Train including Pence and Ryan. At that point I would very much want 45 to steadfastly maintain his innocence and continue his intention to run for reelection, facing such a devastating primary challenge that the GOP is nothing but a smoking crater.

What's the phrase I am looking for... oh yeah "burn the ****er down" - in this case "the ****er" applies to the Trump White House and his enablers in the GOP.

14 davidallen, Mar 1, 2018
I have moved on from my need to see Ryan humiliated. His retreat is good enough for me, how long though before we see him working an office on K Street?

Are you referring to something specific in your retracted statement?
 
I have moved on from my need to see Ryan humiliated. His retreat is good enough for me, how long though before we see him working an office on K Street?

Are you referring to something specific in your retracted statement?

Your last question is asked only to not lie to yourself.
 
Your last question is asked only to not lie to yourself.
It's asked because I am human and may have shown my ass on a point or two over something. Any help in correcting that would be greatly appreciated.

Now if I repeated the same asinine statement many times over, if I quoted a bunch of debunked horseshit years after the fact, I would hope that you would go a step further and maybe plan an intervention.
 
It's asked because I am human and may have shown my ass on a point or two over something. Any help in correcting that would be greatly appreciated.

Now if I repeated the same asinine statement many times over, if I quoted a bunch of debunked horseshit years after the fact, I would hope that you would go a step further and maybe plan an intervention.

Everyone is gullible to some extent because everyone has built in biases and unfortunately most Americans have far greater faith in all forms of media then most on this board. I do not recall 86Poke on this board much, maybe he is new to getting involved in political conversations. He had the gumption to ask for someone to shoot it down and poke holes in it and we have discovered there is no statute of limitations when questioning happenings about CIA involvement in 9/11 or the need to drop the nuke on Japan.

I am sure if he had asked if it was true Trump banged some other unknown hooker 25 years ago there would not have been on peep from you.:)
 
Any truth to this:

Here are 4 Simple questions from an attorney..... are there ANY logical answers?

You be the judge……

Here's what I would like to know. If the TRUTH ever comes out and it is decided that Obama was never eligible to be president, what happens to all the laws he signed into being and all the executive orders?
Should they all be null and void?

Here are 4 Simple questions from a reputable attorney..... this should really get your "gray matter" to churning, even if you are an Obama fan.

For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, the Kapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.

4 Simple Questions.......

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes’. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Exist?

Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". (check it below)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_(http:/en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Kenya)

3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".

This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively.

The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
(CHECK IT BELOW)

( http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx )

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media?

4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936 - if my math holds (Honest! I did that without a calculator!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes ?


Powerful stuff, man. Really makes me stop and think.

Have you looked into the paper composition issue? Something about the paper purportedly used wasn't manufactured during that time?

If you could, do you have some cites for all that?
 
Everyone is gullible to some extent because everyone has built in biases and unfortunately most Americans have far greater faith in all forms of media then most on this board. I do not recall 86Poke on this board much, maybe he is new to getting involved in political conversations. He had the gumption to ask for someone to shoot it down and poke holes in it and we have discovered there is no statute of limitations when questioning happenings about CIA involvement in 9/11 or the need to drop the nuke on Japan.

I am sure if he had asked if it was true Trump banged some other unknown hooker 25 years ago there would not have been on peep from you.:)

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I am sure if he had asked if it was true Trump banged some other unknown hooker 25 years ago there would not have been on peep from you.:)
I am quite certain Trump was banging hookers 25 years ago. No peep from me on those. Sound about right?
 
Just can't believe that his handlers wouldn't have gone through the most basic of research to get almost all of this, if not everything, right. Assuming his BC is a fraud, don't see how anything could or would be done now. Maybe yank his retirement and protection, but that would be it.

I like the idea of him staying in the ex-presidents ranks and being know as the biggest puss to ever be in the WH.
 
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