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2025 NCAA Tournament

If very bad is 10 AAs with all still wrestling tomorrow, I hope every tournament is this bad.
I mean, compared to what we all thought would happen. I mean, usually PSU is hitting on all cylinders by now. Maybe, it’s unfair to compare them to last year or the projections everyone was saying they would do this year. They were supposed to break last years record.
 
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It is unusual for you to lose 4 in the semi's and only have 2 finalists. But 10 All Americans is rare. I would not call your tournament very bad, but I might call it disgusting. I will probably have to take that back soon.

3 finalists. But yes, normally Penn State does better in the semis. Congrats to the Pokes for also getting 3 finalists!
 
By the way, I said it was a bad “DAY”, not a bad tournament. Iowa is having a not so good tournament as a whole. They still will have a pretty good showing tomorrow though.
 
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By the way, I said it was a bad “DAY”, not a bad tournament. Iowa is having a not so good tournament as a whole. They still will have a pretty good showing tomorrow though.

You said "very bad" but I still really wouldn't even call it a bad day. Sure, I expected more finalists but to have all 10 still going is pretty crazy. (They still can break the scoring record but I don't care about that.)
 
PSU 135.5 (3 finalists)
Nebraska 101.5 (2 finalists)
OSU 91 (3 finalists)
Iowa 73.5 (3 finalists)
Nebraska has 3 finalists, 141, 149, and the got the upset to make finals at 157, where are favorite because upset on other side. They are underdog in other 2 ( I know hardy is the higher seed but Mendez is the defending champ). But they Have a good chance to win each match. Don’t they win all three but could because they don’t have a Gable or Messenbrink type in their finals.
 
You said "very bad" but I still really wouldn't even call it a bad day. Sure, I expected more finalists but to have all 10 still going is pretty crazy. (They still can break the scoring record but I don't care about that.)
it is relative. I stick by what I said. I was astonished to see them get upset as many times as they have, including yesterday. It is crazy to say, they still will win a championship.
 
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Can we all agree that the David Taylor experiment was a failure?

Congrats on a good tournament so far. Nebby is leaking some oil and you still have a good shot at 2nd. Make your own magic.
lol. True. Nebraska is peaking just at the right time. Hopefully, their peak was yesterday and ours is tomorrow. We’ve had a really good tournament and PSU had pretty much a typical PSU tournament, until yesterday, and those that stumbled yesterday, won’t stumble on the backside.
I hope I’m wrong, but Nebraska will be hard to catch. I really like the guys on their team, Hardy, Lovett, etc. Who can’t root for them, except if you’re the team competing against them.
I just read the article of Penn state and 10 AAs, crazy. Think if they didn’t have the upsets yesterday. Heaven help us all.
 
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Couple of minor predictions.....1 - finals matches will start at 197 because Starocci is going for his 5th and 2 - Wyatt will salute the president before his match.
That would be cool, remember Gable is left wing radical. It's gonna be like Rocky vs. Dolph Lundgren, Wyatt should come out to 'Living in America"
 
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Couple errors in those posts last night. Thanks for those who corrected the numbers! Had a few too many tall boys at the arena apparently!

1) missed the Nebraska 3rd finalist
2) my Iowa can they catch us I must’ve meant if they won their matches with a pin lol.
 
That was a very fun day. I was totally prepared for us to go 0-4 in the semis, and we went 3-1. Add to that 6 All-Americans, which could have easily been 8 (barring injury to TT and bad blood round draw to TJ). It will be a long road, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel for us reclaiming our spot at the top of the sport.
 
That was a very fun day. I was totally prepared for us to go 0-4 in the semis, and we went 3-1. Add to that 6 All-Americans, which could have easily been 8 (barring injury to TT and bad blood round draw to TJ). It will be a long road, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel for us reclaiming our spot at the top of the sport.
I was thinking last night about the general vibe around the program this time a year ago. Back to back horrible showings at NCAAs, guys consistently losing matches they shouldn’t, and nobody “making the leap” like you saw at other schools. No disrespect to JWS but the program was stuck in a rut at best, dead in the water at worst. DT and co. have come in and jolted it back to life. As great of a guy as Coleman is and as great of a coach as he might be, I don’t think we see this radical of a shift in 1 year under him.
 
I was thinking last night about the general vibe around the program this time a year ago. Back to back horrible showings at NCAAs, guys consistently losing matches they shouldn’t, and nobody “making the leap” like you saw at other schools. No disrespect to JWS but the program was stuck in a rut at best, dead in the water at worst. DT and co. have come in and jolted it back to life. As great of a guy as Coleman is and as great of a coach as he might be, I don’t think we see this radical of a shift in 1 year under him.
Can we take another step forward next year?
 
That was a very fun day. I was totally prepared for us to go 0-4 in the semis, and we went 3-1. Add to that 6 All-Americans, which could have easily been 8 (barring injury to TT and bad blood round draw to TJ). It will be a long road, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel for us reclaiming our spot at the top of the sport.
Let’s hope it’s the Chunnel in length. Right guys?
 
I think that’s gonna depend on how they hit the portal and whether guys in redshirt or high school come in and make noise. Thompson, Merrill, Lockett, etc.
I agree. At this point, we have no idea what our lineup will look like. For all we know Max McEnelly will be our starting 184 (just an example, zero inside info). We are going to learn a lot over the next month and then a lot more at the start of next year when redshirt info comes out.
 
I’ve been MIA on the forum for a few days. Was Surber hurt or did he just have a bad tournament? His draw looks fairly tough but manageable.
He looked dazed and confused his last two matches. Hope it was just him and not a head injury he was wrestling with. It was tough to watch. His last match he was stumbling into shots. No way they knowingly let him go if he had signs of head injury so that can’t be it. Just off I guess. Rough end to a grueling career. He gave a lot to the program.
 
I agree. At this point, we have no idea what our lineup will look like. For all we know Max McEnelly will be our starting 184 (just an example, zero inside info). We are going to learn a lot over the next month and then a lot more at the start of next year when redshirt info comes out.

They will hit the portal. Lots of high end guys will want to come here and we have the openings.

I expect 3-5 transfers coming in and a good chance all are starting in 25/26.
 
He looked dazed and confused his last two matches. Hope it was just him and not a head injury he was wrestling with. It was tough to watch. His last match he was stumbling into shots. No way they knowingly let him go if he had signs of head injury so that can’t be it. Just off I guess. Rough end to a grueling career. He gave a lot to the program.
Yeah.
 
If there’s gonna be another big portal haul this offseason, I hope it’s the last. Would prefer to have the overwhelming majority of our starters be homegrown guys we recruited out of HS rather than having to go back to the portal year in and year out. Mostly because that would mean this staff is hitting on recruiting AND development which, not to beat a dead horse, has been lacking at OSU for a while.
 
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If there’s gonna be another big portal haul this offseason, I hope it’s the last. Would prefer to have the overwhelming majority of our starters be homegrown guys we recruited out of HS rather than having to go back to the portal year in and year out. Mostly because that would mean this staff is hitting on recruiting AND development which, not to beat a dead horse, has been lacking at OSU for a while.
Based on the recruits we have coming in I would expect next year to be last year of getting 4 or 5 guys from the portal. Hopefully from then on it will be just to fill a spot or two every once in awhile, like Penn st has done the last couple of years.
 
Based on the recruits we have coming in I would expect next year to be last year of getting 4 or 5 guys from the portal. Hopefully from then on it will be just to fill a spot or two every once in awhile, like Penn st has done the last couple of years.

Agree. We need to keep the momentum and it will take a big haul again this year to do it.

We had recruited and started to many “good” wrestlers and “good” cowboys but not enough killers in the past.

We are building the roster with more of what’s needed to chase PSU but it will take a few years to build the pipeline.
 
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