2024 Presidential Election

[Ponca Dan]

The primary election or the general election?

I think Harris and Buttigieg could win both, especially if they are facing Trump again in the general. The general election outcome will also depend on where we are as a nation during the fall of '24.

I don't get your focus on Michelle Obama. I see no desire from her to run for President.

btw, as for what you "personally see," keep in mind you didn't see Biden doing what he did in 2020. You doubted him the whole way and had convinced yourself the man was going to be removed by a secret cabal! 🤣 I'd recommended for you when it comes to making political predictions . . . whatever you think, predict the opposite!



The country is currently on the correct path. Also, don't use big terms that you don't know the definition of, such as "socialist." Last time you used terms you didn't know the meaning to, you got embarrassed.

WIth that said, I fully expect if the historic norm holds, the Republicans should have a good midterm election. They will then proceed to overreach, which will benefit the Biden administration.

1). General election
2). Harris would be clobbered by any opponent she’d face. She’s that rare combination of stupid and incompetent, matched only by her extreme unlikability. Mayor Pete lacked the same thing that Bush II lacked: gravitas.
3). I’m not focusing on Michelle Obama. I’m just saying she looks to have the most potential to win.
4). Yes, I missed badly on thinking the Democrat establishment would see what I saw in Biden: a shell of a man who was always an intellectual lightweight. And in that regard I am proven right on a daily basis.
5). Your Democrat prejudice is showing the full monty if you think the country is on the right path.
6). I don’t know what the historic norm is for losses to the paety in power, what the average loss is. But I suspect the Democrat losses this year will far exceed the norm. And as I said earlier I fully expect the Republicans to screw it up as badly as you do. And the country will be the worse for it.

 

[windriverrange]

Biden proved that the election isn't about hard work, meritorious service previously, campaigning furiously or being held accountable. The media and media alone pushed the Model T over the line. He still demonstrates a complete lack of awareness and or the ability to not talk with forked-tongue.

My guess is it's not going to be him, heals up Harris or Hillary. With practically no downside to choosing just about anyone the media will eat peanut infused shit from I'm thinking someone like Gavin (CA) or Booker (MD) After they get walloped in mid-terms they will have to correct course back to the middleish part of America.

Possible Chewbacca's cousin may run to give the ex-rodent in chief goat herding closet muslim eunuch a 4th term. Or she gets elected ten resigns and her almost certainly onerous VP takes over and elevates some completely socialist dipstick like AOC to VP. As was mentioned above their bench is a cast of Pee Wee Hermann's.

If Trump doesn't drop the vote fraud BS though he needs to disappear in favor of DeSantis and Byron Donalds (FL) as VP. Put Donalds in positions of authority and get him trained up to be the next President.

 

[my_2cents]

1). General election

Ok.

Again, both Harris or Buttigieg could win the '24 general election, especially if they are running against Trump.

2). Harris would be clobbered by any opponent she’d face. She’s that rare combination of stupid and incompetent, matched only by her extreme unlikability. Mayor Pete lacked the same thing that Bush II lacked: gravitas.

Remember me telling you to predict the opposite of what you think? Clearly you aren't listening!

Your hatred of Harris will never allow you to admit she could win. The meltdown you will have if she wins is going to be very enjoyable to watch. It is always fun watching you face reality when your delusions come crashing down.

3). I’m not focusing on Michelle Obama. I’m just saying she looks to have the most potential to win.

But she has shown no desire to run for elective political office.

Michelle Obama is not Hillary Clinton.

4). Yes, I missed badly on thinking the Democrat establishment would see what I saw in Biden: a shell of a man who was always an intellectual lightweight. And in that regard I am proven right on a daily basis.

You are only proven right in your own right-wing mind.

Still though, you were completely wrong about 2020. Did you learn anything from it? Nope. You just double down, setting yourself up to be wrong again!🤣

5). Your Democrat prejudice is showing the full monty if you think the country is on the right path.

And I could say just as easily that your right-wing prejudice is showing the full monty if you believe all the doom and gloom nonsense you post on this board.

The country is headed in the right direction. Do I expect you to ever believe this though? Nope.

6). I don’t know what the historic norm is for losses to the paety in power, what the average loss is. But I suspect the Democrat losses this year will far exceed the norm. And as I said earlier I fully expect the Republicans to screw it up as badly as you do. And the country will be the worse for it.

Then do a little non-bias research (for once) if you don't know the historical norm. Especially if you are going to try to make predictions about that historical norm! 🙄🤣

 

[my_2cents]

heals up Harris

@Bitter Creek

There is one.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Ok.

Again, both Harris or Buttigieg could win the '24 general election, especially if they are running against Trump.


Remember me telling you to predict the opposite of what you think? Clearly you aren't listening!

Your hatred of Harris will never allow you to admit she could win. The meltdown you will have if she wins is going to be very enjoyable to watch. It is always fun watching you face reality when your delusions come crashing down.


But she has shown no desire to run for elective political office.

Michelle Obama is not Hillary Clinton.


You are only proven right in your own right-wing mind.

Still though, you were completely wrong about 2020. Did you learn anything from it? Nope. You just double down, setting yourself up to be wrong again!🤣


And I could say just as easily that your right-wing prejudice is showing the full monty if you believe all the doom and gloom nonsense you post on this board.

The country is headed in the right direction. Do I expect you to ever believe this though? Nope.


Then do a little non-bias research (for once) if you don't know the historical norm. Especially if you are going to try to make predictions about that historical norm! 🙄🤣

1). Harris cannot win, even if it’s against Trump. Mayor Pete does not have the seasoning necessary for the job. He has been lackluster in his current position.
2). I don’t hate Harris. I reserve my hatred for those that deserve it, namely LBJ and Hillary. Harris is far too inconsequential for hate.
3). I’m not saying Michelle has a desire to run. I’m saying since she’s. BO’s wife she would be one of the most likely Democrats to win.
4). Biden is an unmitigated disaster for this country. His failures are evidenced by his poll numbers. I could/can barely tolerate the sight of DJT, but he occasionally got things right when he was prez. Biden has a 100% success rate at screwing the pooch. Only the most inflexible partisans refuse to see the truth. So, yes, I was wrong about the outcome. But I was right that Biden would drag this country into the abyss. From your unhinged extremist left wing perspective you see my attitude as doom and gloom. I see my voice as the canary in the coal mine.

 

[my_2cents]

1). Harris cannot win, even if it’s against Trump. Mayor Pete does not have the seasoning necessary for the job. He has been lackluster in his current position.

Again, both can win and if their opponent is Trump, it only helps their chances in my opinion.

And Buttigieg is doing a good job.

2). I don’t hate Harris.

Yes you do.

You have been wrong about Harris from day one too. I've been trying to tell you where Harris is heading, but you just can't get past your hate of her to listen.

3). I’m not saying Michelle has a desire to run. I’m saying since she’s. BO’s wife she would be one of the most likely Democrats to win.

On one hand you say Buttigieg doesn't have the seasoning to get elected but then you turn around and claim Michelle does simply because she is Obama's wife?

I mean, do you even think before you post? Seriously?

Michelle Obama isn't running for President.

4). Biden is an unmitigated disaster for this country. His failures are evidenced by his poll numbers.

Almost all Presidents have periods where their approval ratings are down. Especially early in their first term.

You sound like those Republicans who were convinced Bill Clinton was finished in 1994. How that work out for Republicans in 1996?

Biden has a 100% success rate at screwing the pooch. Only the most inflexible partisans refuse to see the truth.

This is just absolutely not true. Biden has had his successes and our country is no where near as bad off as you want to make it out to be. We are on the right track. Sorry this bothers you so much.

It is your inflexible partisanship that keeps you from recognizing this btw. You don't like Biden, therefore, everything he does is a failure in your mind (even when he does actions you claimed at one time to support).

You are hopelessly lost and confused.

So, yes, I was wrong about the outcome.

Yep, just like you are wrong on almost everything Dan.

One would think you would get tired of being wrong all the time.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Again, both can win and if their opponent is Trump, it only helps their chances in my opinion.

And Buttigieg is doing a good job.


Yes you do.

You have been wrong about Harris from day one too. I've been trying to tell you where Harris is heading, but you just can't get past your hate of her to listen.


On one hand you say Buttigieg doesn't have the seasoning to get elected but then you turn around and claim Michelle does simply because she is Obama's wife?

I mean, do you even think before you post? Seriously?

Michelle Obama isn't running for President.


Almost all Presidents have periods where their approval ratings are down. Especially early in their first term.

You sound like those Republicans who were convinced Bill Clinton was finished in 1994. How that work out for Republicans in 1996?


This is just absolutely not true. Biden has had his successes and our country is no where near as bad off as you want to make it out to be. We are on the right track. Sorry this bothers you so much.

It is your inflexible partisanship that keeps you from recognizing this btw. You don't like Biden, therefore, everything he does is a failure in your mind (even when he does actions you claimed at one time to support).

You are hopelessly lost and confused.


Yep, just like you are wrong on almost everything Dan.

One would think you would get tired of being wrong all the time.

Okay, this is my last reply, I’ve said all I need to say.
1). Harris would be utterly humiliated in a general election. She’s that bad. Mayor Pete is in the junior varsity at this point.
2). I don’t hate Harris.
3). Yes, that’s as obvious as the nose on your face. Michelle’s ace in the hole is her husband would be in the Oval Office with her or instead of her. Who’s Pete got to carry him over the top?
4). I understand you will never acknowledge the truth about Biden - or any Democrat for that matter. If he were a Broadway play they’d have closed the curtain by now.
5). The Democrats are the party in power, so they are the focus of my wrath. You know that, but your intransigence can only see partisanship. I’ve given up trying to set you straight.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Okay, this is my last reply, I’ve said all I need to say.
1). Harris would be utterly humiliated in a general election. She’s that bad. Mayor Pete is in the junior varsity at this point.
2). I don’t hate Harris.
3). Yes, that’s as obvious as the nose on your face. Michelle’s ace in the hole is her husband would be in the Oval Office with her or instead of her. Who’s Pete got to carry him over the top?
4). I understand you will never acknowledge the truth about Biden - or any Democrat for that matter. If he were a Broadway play they’d have closed the curtain by now.
5). The Democrats are the party in power, so they are the focus of my wrath. You know that, but your intransigence can only see partisanship. I’ve given up trying to set you straight.

Finally!!! Getting through to your opponent is completely beyond your reach. You get it.

Maybe one day I'll tell you about how I hate gays, according to my Fort Sill feather merchant Hillary-worshipping liberal sister.

 

[my_2cents]

I’ve given up trying to set you straight.

When you are actually right about something, maybe then you can try to set me straight. You are consistently wrong though. Consistently. You have no ability to set anyone straight!🤣

And for the last time, stop with the games. You are a right-winger if there ever was one. It is hilarious though to watch how you have such a hard time with the truth.

 

[2012Bearcat]

Anyone that thinks Heels Up could win a Presidential election is either trolling or so eat up with the dumbass they cannot be taken seriously, same for Butt plug. He could barely run a city and with the shitty job he's doing solving the supply chain issues, that everyone sees, makes him unelectable.

 

[Been Jammin]

Anyone that thinks Heels Up could win a Presidential election is either trolling or so eat up with the dumbass they cannot be taken seriously, same for Butt plug. He could barely run a city and with the shitty job he's doing solving the supply chain issues, that everyone sees, makes him unelectable.

You said the same thing about our current POTUS. The guy who got more votes for POTUS than anyone in history.

 

[2012Bearcat]

You said the same thing about our current POTUS. The guy who got more votes for POTUS than anyone in history.

By all means run either one of them but this time Democrats will not be able to cheat.

 

[Medic007]

You said the same thing about our current POTUS. The guy who got more votes for POTUS than anyone in history.

Congrats on electing a racist old demented pedophile who is arguably more corrupt than Trump over all of the diversity in the Democratic primary. You want a cookie?

 

[BIGOSUFAN]

If achieved, election integrity should be a killer for the Dimms. Anyone Ponca Dan mentioned should serve up just fine. I'm not so sure the Dimms will be brave enough to trot out their ballot harvesting scheme in 2024. Rasmussen tells me a majority of respondents are on to them.

Did Virginia Dimms shelve their ballot harvesting scheme in 2021?

HighStickHarry, I don't remember you from my classical mechanics course. There are not an all time record 81 million Americans stupid enough to vote for what we have before us, as you well know. You, 22LR and I didn't need to read Rigged by Mollie Hemingway, even though it was enjoyable reading.

It’s interesting, I watched VA election reporting in real time. Heavily blue Fairfax County stopped counting votes at 9:30 PM at 57% reporting. Deja vu again. They stopped reporting for at least a hour. Several conservative commentators made mention of it in real time. The difference was that as they did this the more rural counties stopped reporting as well. They learned how the game is played a year ago.

 

[my_2cents]

Anyone that thinks Heels Up could win a Presidential election

@Bitter Creek

 

[my_2cents]

same for Butt plug

@Bitter Creek

Not dealing with Harris, but a similar style attack on Buttigieg.

 

[my_2cents]

By all means run either one of them but this time Democrats will not be able to cheat.

There is no doubt though if Biden, Harris, or Buttigieg win in '24 . . . you will be on here claiming the Democrats cheated again.

You are just like @Ponca Dan. You both are so often wrong and yet, you continue on believing the nonsense your propagandists feed you.

 

[2012Bearcat]

There is no doubt though if Biden, Harris, or Buttigieg win in '24 . . . you will be on here claiming the Democrats cheated again.

You are just like @Ponca Dan. You both are so often wrong and yet, you continue on believing the nonsense your propagandists feed you.

If Democrat politicians change the voting laws illegally, counting in key areas stops in the middle of the night and somehow the Democrat receives hundreds of thousands of votes to take the lead and Republican poll watchers are not allowed to watch the count, yea I will say I highly suspect Democrats cheated which is the same thing you would do if the roles were reversed.

 

[my_2cents]

If Democrat politicians change the voting laws illegally, counting in key areas stops in the middle of the night and somehow the Democrat receives hundreds of thousands of votes to take the lead and Republican poll watchers are not allowed to watch the count, yea I will say I highly suspect Democrats cheated which is the same thing you would do if the roles were reversed.

You will say Democrats cheated in '24 if they win, period. You will continue to follow your dear leader and his attack on our democracy.

 

[2012Bearcat]

You will say Democrats cheated in '24 if they win, period. You will continue to follow your dear leader and his attack on our democracy.

Are you a child or do you just act like one?

 

[my_2cents]

Are you a child or do you just act like one?

Best response you could come up with huh? 🤣🤣

Sorry you have a problem with the truth but you are just so predictable. Everyone on here knows you will be claiming Democrats cheated if they win in '24. You will be repeating whatever your propagandists are feeding you at that time.

 

[Been Jammin]

By all means run either one of them but this time Democrats will not be able to cheat.

I'm sure you have at least a tiny bit of evidence of the cheating you are referring to. Please share.

 

[Been Jammin]

Congrats on electing a racist old demented pedophile who is arguably more corrupt than Trump over all of the diversity in the Democratic primary. You want a cookie?

Do you have cookies? I like cookies.

 

[Bitter Creek]

@Bitter Creek

Did he say that because the person in question is female or because of their character? Example: Did you ever say anything negative about Trump and if so, was it because you have a problem with men or was it because of Trump being Trump?

 

[Bitter Creek]

@Bitter Creek

Not dealing with Harris, but a similar style attack on Buttigieg.

I would agree your assessment here

 

[my_2cents]

Did he say that because the person in question is female or because of their character?

The comment was clearly a sex based attack on her. When have you ever heard such a term used for a man?

It was clearly a sexist comment. It was not attacking Harris on policy issues, but instead attacking her from a sexist perspective.

 

[my_2cents]

I would agree your assessment here

Thank you.

btw, expect more of these types of bigoted attacks to be directed at Buttigieg from some on the right if he is ever the Democratic nominee and/or becomes President/Vice President.

 

[OUSOONER67]

Thank you.

btw, expect more of these types of bigoted attacks to be directed at Buttigieg from some on the right if he is ever the Democratic nominee and/or becomes President/Vice President.

Is it illegal?
Why does the left do it as well?

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Trump moved his vote total up 12 million votes from 2016 to 2020. 17 states changed election laws last minute favoring Democrats. All sited COVID. After a summer of riots, few judges were interested in hearing bundles and bundles of fraud evidence.

I recommend Rigged by Mollie Hemingway. Ms. Hemingway uses small words. She details how Trump won Georgia. She details how Pub observers were allowed entrance in Philly but were kept distant from where votes were accepted or rejected. She mentions Milwaukee's near carbon copy of Philly strategy.

There are not 81 million of us stupid enough to vote for Brandon.

 

[Medic007]

Thank you.

btw, expect more of these types of bigoted attacks to be directed at Buttigieg from some on the right if he is ever the Democratic nominee and/or becomes President/Vice President.

Let's hear your take on your regressive team's insistence on race being the most important thing to consider. Why should we care about yet another medocre white male paraded out by Team Diversity? I get your Klan genes mandate such a thing, but you could simply resist the impulse, my_toonsense. It is what it is, Chump.

 

[OUSOONER67]

Thank you.

btw, expect more of these types of bigoted attacks to be directed at Buttigieg from some on the right if he is ever the Democratic nominee and/or becomes President/Vice President.

What do you mean?

 

[OUSOONER67]

What do you mean?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am still laughing.

 

[my_2cents]

What do you mean?

@Bitter Creek

See, they can't help themselves. Their true colors always come shining through.

 

[Bitter Creek]

The comment was clearly a sex based attack on her. When have you ever heard such a term used for a man?

It was clearly a sexist comment. It was not attacking Harris on policy issues, but instead attacking her from a sexist perspective.

He is attacking her on character issues not because of her gender

 

[my_2cents]

He is attacking her on character issues not because of her gender

🙄

No he isn't. That post had nothing to do with her character.

I told you the examples would be there for you to see. And they are and they will continue to be. As I stated, they can't help themselves.

 

[Been Jammin]

Trump moved his vote total up 12 million votes from 2016 to 2020. 17 states changed election laws last minute favoring Democrats. All sited COVID. After a summer of riots, few judges were interested in hearing bundles and bundles of fraud evidence.

I recommend Rigged by Mollie Hemingway. Ms. Hemingway uses small words. She details how Trump won Georgia. She details how Pub observers were allowed entrance in Philly but were kept distant from where votes were accepted or rejected. She mentions Milwaukee's near carbon copy of Philly strategy.

There are not 81 million of us stupid enough to vote for Brandon.

You would think that someone who incessantly brags about his high IQ would be able to think more logically than this. Your only argument is "81 million people wouldn't vote for that dude". Yet, here we are over 1 year after the election with no documented proof of election fraud. Nothing that Trump and his cronies threw against the wall had enough substance to stick. In your world, the Democrats were able to cheat Trump out of his victory by changing/creating millions of votes, yet they were not able to pick up more than 4 seats in the Senate and lost seats in the House. Your take is not about data or logic. It is only about feelings.

 

[Alpha Woke]

You would think that someone who incessantly brags about his high IQ would be able to think more logically than this. Your only argument is "81 million people wouldn't vote for that dude". Yet, here we are over 1 year after the election with no documented proof of election fraud. Nothing that Trump and his cronies threw against the wall had enough substance to stick. In your world, the Democrats were able to cheat Trump out of his victory by changing/creating millions of votes, yet they were not able to pick up more than 4 seats in the Senate and lost seats in the House. Your take is not about data or logic. It is only about feelings.

 

[2012Bearcat]

I'm sure you have at least a tiny bit of evidence of the cheating you are referring to. Please share.

Individuals changing voting laws instead of state legislatures.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

You would think that someone who incessantly brags about his high IQ would be able to think more logically than this. Your only argument is "81 million people wouldn't vote for that dude". Yet, here we are over 1 year after the election with no documented proof of election fraud. Nothing that Trump and his cronies threw against the wall had enough substance to stick. In your world, the Democrats were able to cheat Trump out of his victory by changing/creating millions of votes, yet they were not able to pick up more than 4 seats in the Senate and lost seats in the House. Your take is not about data or logic. It is only about feelings.

Slow down for a minute and think. Read my post again. Read Fixed by Mollie Hemingway and try to exercise some degree of reading comprehension. My only argument? I've displayed a number of arguments.

There are not 81 million Americans stupid enough to vote for a stiff who can barely draw flies to a campaign rally in Phoenix. The majority of board members fully understand. This is not wave mechanics. The US average IQ is 98. Not 68. How many times have I droned on about these arguments?

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Individuals changing voting laws instead of state legislatures.

I believe I've mentioned that one, too. Mark Levin made a big deal about that one.