Viable Centrist Third Party?
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I think the responses in this thread answer your question pretty clearly.
There isn’t a chance in hell of it happening on our lifetimes.
Nevertheless, the Republic will survive.
Fewer and fewer of the centrists that are paying attention. This thread provides ample examples answering the original question though.
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Unfortunately I don’t have the attention span to read the whole thing. I picked Economics and Immigration to read. I understand it’s a party platform and therefore by necessity it is nothing more than a generic wish list very short on specifics.
The Economics section can only be considered a mild socialist doctrine prettied up with Chritian homilies. IMO it is horrible. I’ll be charitable and give it a D-.
The Immigration section on the other hand wasn’t half bad. Unfortunately the longer they talked the worse it got as it tries to use government intervention (force) to instill what it regards as Christian ethics. Still, it wasn’t nearly as bad as the Economics section, I’d give it a C.
Sorry but I couldn’t read the whole thing. It was not my cup of tea. I had never heard of this party. I don’t think it has much hope of resonating with the American public. But that’s not why you should join it and advocate in its behalf. If what they say inspires you to action then I say go for it!
Prayer has not been removed from schools. Forced prayer to a certain faith has. I agree with this. No American student should be forced to practice a religious faith they don't believe in. Thomas Jefferson was right. As for abortion, I consider myself pro-choice and therefore I agree with the ACLU on this. Many centrists and Independents are pro-choice.
Many centrists and Independents also support some of the goals of BLM. Look at the polls on this. I don't always agree with the actions of BLM activists.
I don't recall asking you to grade the platform sections. You asked me for a more detailed explanation of some of the policy positions I hold, and I provided that platform as an example of some of the positions I hold.
No offense was intended. I just used a “grading system” as a way of explaining what I thought of it. I’m not offended by your curt dismissal of Tulsi Gabbard, so I ask that you not be offended by my reaction to the link you posted. I thought you had posted the link in order for me to reply.
I have not dismissed Tulsi Gabbard. I told you that I don't really know enough about her to form an opinion one way or the other. You shared a video of her and I commented that she sounded like a populist in that video who enjoys attacking the establishment.
Well, I thought it came across as a dismissal, but it didn’t offend me. People like @my_2cents have been much harsher toward her than anything you said, and that didn’t offend me either (in that case I considered the source).
No offense, but you seem very defensive about Tulsi just as @my_2cents seems for Biden.
You two are a lot alike. Very strong-minded and sure of yourself. Probably why you butt heads so much.
Now you have done it! Saying Dan and I are a lot alike? How dare you!
Just kidding btw!🤣
JFC. Your high school civics teacher is getting a call this weekend.
Sad thing is you likely believe at least half of that shit.
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The 2 major parties have too much infrastructure and brand loyalty to ever not be the Big Two, imo. However, independent candidates are still viable (e.g. Perot and some senators) and a winning independent is sort of the functional equivalent. I dont know that third party movement would last long after the candidate exits though, and that's kind of what makes the big 2 what they are.
Centrists tend to stay put, new parties will come from the extremes.
I think Trump could have his own nativist party tomorrow if he wanted to. It could even make an impact in congress. (So maybe I just talked myself into a "yes"?)
I would happily switch parties if an "Oklahoma first" type deal came out that's premise was improving Oklahoma and staying out of federal issues. If we were smart thats what all the okies on here would do instead of fighting over irrelevant federal shit that's professionally scripted for other people's benefit. Neither of the big 2 has done squat for Oklahoma in a generation. If I'm wrong on that, someone please correct me.
Dan, if she wasn't so hot she'd be nothing. She didn't catch fire at all in the national election. She's a little crazy. She has no base except dirty old men and lesbians that just wanna look at her. I'd definitely vote for her.
@Red Phoenix maybe you support blm because you don’t get all the information.
www.foxnews.com
Police groups slam Black Lives Matter chapter for complaining shot police officers treated as 'heroes'
The Black Lives Matter chapter in Washington, D.C., is facing criticism from police unions after it complained that wounded cops are automatically treated as "heroes" after a D.C. officer was shot Sunday night.
@Red Phoenix maybe you support blm because you don’t get all the information.
Police groups slam Black Lives Matter chapter for complaining shot police officers treated as 'heroes'
The Black Lives Matter chapter in Washington, D.C., is facing criticism from police unions after it complained that wounded cops are automatically treated as "heroes" after a D.C. officer was shot Sunday night.
He’s always real vague when discussing leftist dogma.
He’s better at telling you about conservatives warts.
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@Red Phoenix maybe you support blm because you don’t get all the information.
Police groups slam Black Lives Matter chapter for complaining shot police officers treated as 'heroes'
The Black Lives Matter chapter in Washington, D.C., is facing criticism from police unions after it complained that wounded cops are automatically treated as "heroes" after a D.C. officer was shot Sunday night.
Cops just got roughed up, what's the big deal?
This might be one that will read anon757gdvjfcb368 someday.
Maybe if you have a career option that requires you to clean up your social media you'll do it.
We both know that'll never happen though, don't we?
Still pissed about those cops getting "roughed up"? That happens a lot, what's the big deal?
Sometimes you don’t need to add anything to highlight the lack of thought.
The author here does the heavy lifting.
That’s really the key to conversing with the left, just keep them talking and they’ll prove your point for you.
Popular culture has passed you by. So sad. Maybe work on messaging instead of whining about it?
Or like most issues in this arena your head is firmly in your ass.
Already have one and it is the GOP. Well over half of the party in office is made up of what would be considered moderate democrats 10-20 years ago. There are very few moderate democrats in the democratic party. The democratic party has gone beyond left while the GOP is far less conservative than portrayed. Look at the leadership of each party. George W was a Rino, McConnell is a Rino, Ryan was a Rino, Kevin McCarthy (iffy), Boehner (enough said)...The list goes on and on. Democratic leadership speaks for itself. They cave to the progressives to the point that it is out of control with little hope of getting back to the middle anytime soon.
Let's employ the Socratic method. How do you define credibility in the context of covid research?
Can you provide examples and counterexamples to your assertion that the ACLU is anti-Christian?
Uh huh. Care to explain then why the conservative agenda is consistently on the wrong side of popular opinion? Maybe you could start with abortion rights and expand from there.
The lack of awareness is hilarious. So confident and so out of touch. A bit of a theme.
First, you can’t seem to get your head around what a simple video is leaving out even when put in simple terms.
Simple didn’t work, so I tried like I was explaining it to a child.
Still no joy.
Now, it would probably just be easier if you would just give me your version of the scientific method so I can tell you where you biff it.
Let's stay on track here - you did ask for enlightenment didn't you?
How do you define credibility in the context of covid research? You can do it AP, just slow down and use your words.
You did and your understanding of basic science makes me wonder if you’re equipped for the conversation.
You seem to think that a Dr that studies trends is unqualified to read data.
Thats a very stupid thought
We can give this another try - there is a cookie in it for you if you can actually answer the question AP.
How do you define credibility in the context of covid research?
Just tell me why you think she’s unqualified.
Why can you dipshits never get to the point?
oh you like to discuss specifics now after years of running away from me? Eat a dick.
if you go back and answer the dozens of questions you’ve ignored then I might respond.
Maybe if someone respectable asks me the same question, I might do some googling.
