Viable Centrist Third Party?
- Thread starter Red Phoenix
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Ever? Yes. Which one? No clue. As the two main parties go further and further to the right and to the left, they are at risk of alienating the middle (quiet) majority and will force a third, centrist party.
I sure hope you are right. Ever since I left the Republican Party I've been hoping one would become viable.
I like a lot of what the American Solidarity Party stands for, but they don't really seem to be growing that much. It just seems our political system isn't conducive to a viable third party, much less a centrist one.
I very erroneously thought the Libertarian Party could fill that role. When I moved to Florida, I very happily left the GOP and joined the Libertarian Party since it was an option. I even joined the Florida Libertarian Party. I still get some emails from them. Seeing some of the inner workings was fairly concerning, at least to the point that they do not want to be sustainable.
It will take a group of centrist Democrats and Republicans to form a viable third party, unfortunately. But, as each side goes further and further to the crazy extremes, something will have to give. None of the existing alternative party options seem to be capable of making that leap. I still contend that Sinema and Manchin make far better Republicans than 90% of the GOP. I do not care for Liz Cheney, particularly, but she makes a better Dem than the majority in the DNC.
Probably not.
For the most part, our country's political system has been a two-party system from the start. It is very hard in this country for a third party to gain traction and power. The Republican and Democratic parties hold all the power cards, and, in my opinion, they work together to limit the rise of a serious third-party contender.
This I agree with. The only thing the Democrats and Republicans can agree on these days is the need to destroy any hints of a third party.
Too many systemic barriers IMO. What will more likely happen is a revolution within one part or the other moving it more dramatically to the center and ostracizing a third or more of their current membership. Eventually, those folks will absorb back into the party they left and start the cycle of dragging it back to the edge again.
One party system seems the most likely.
One side controls 99% of the information bandwidth.
There are at least 162,000,000 stupid people.
Bad odds.
One side controls 99% of the information bandwidth.
There are at least 162,000,000 stupid people.
Bad odds.
The problem with the Libertarian Party is that it isn't a centrist party. They have come the closest to being a viable third party.
And it definitely would take a group of centrists from both parties to form one. They don't seem too concern to do it however. In the end, they remain in their parties or simply join the other party.
I fear you are right. I do think it works to the advantage of both the Republican and Democrat parties to not have a viable centrist third-party.
Put a number on it.
Then put a number on entertainment.
Commercials.
Promoted stories.
Promoted videos.
Social media.
Anything else pertaining to info uptake you can think of.
.Leftist ideology is where everyone lives.
I have to leave your bubble to get to mine.
No if a third party became viable, either the Democrats or Republicans will fold.
The GOP is moderate centrist.
Some people are pissed because of Trump's personality.
Some people are pissed because of Trump's personality.
I'm sorry, but the Republican Party is not moderate centrist. I am a moderate centrist and the Republican Party has gone way too far to the right for me.
Neither is the Democratic Party. Both are controlled, most of the time, by the extremes.
You're wrong.
what was the piece of legislation introduced or specific part of the republican platform that is too far right for you?
The Republican Party's stances on immigration, civil rights, education, and abortion are four that come to mind immediately. I also don't like some of the economic policies of Republicans but then again, I also don't like some of the economic policies of the Democratic Party. And I think the Democratic Party is too far to the left on immigration.
Republicans are against civil rights and education?
Your arguments are painted with the broadest brush possible.
What about immigration policy are you against?
Same with all the others.
republican party stance on immigration is let’s have zero illegals and bring in people legally that will help us become a better country. As in not immediately dependent on welfare.
now, that’s the ideal. If you are against the republicans actions of pretending we should close the border but bring in illegals to keep wages low for big corporations while blaming it on democrats then yes im against that as well.
Republicans stance on education I would hope would be leave it to each state to decide how to prioritize education. However they think they need to intervene from a federal level to counter Dems stupidity.
civil rights, I can’t wait to hear your version of what you think republicans stance is on that. Once dchi gets his lgbtq renters law passed it will finally only be legal to discriminate against straight white men. How much more ground is there to cover here that is turning you off from the republicans?
abortion is a deeply personal issue with a wide spectrum and what have republicans promised to do with the millions of black babies democrats are currently aborting? I assume they have no plan for that either, but when the Dems offer abortion on demand then I’m not sure where you are on that one.
They tend to oppose civil rights actions from what I see and are hostile to civil rights movements today. I don't think they oppose education, I just don't always agree with their views on education.
Unfortunately, I think you are right. That seems to be the consensus on this thread.
I just wish it wasn't the case.
What civil rights movements?
I think we are going to have an opportunity to educate you here. Can you start by giving examples or are these just “feelings?”
Why do you think I need to be educated?
I'm just stating my opinion. If you disagree, that is fine. No need to get hostile about it.
because right now you are in @Been Jammin territory. We are all interested in the specifics that are the foundation of your opinion, if you don’t produce them, then you are a candidate for education. What civil rights issues are republicans against? Do you think Georgia’s voting law is racist? Jim Crow 2.0? Let’s get into this.
I don't know who @Been Jammin is and I also never used the term racist. I also don't like you telling me that I need to be educated because I disagree with you about where the Republican Party stands on issues.
This is the problem with Republicans and Democrats. Both sides are convinced they are right on everything, and if one disagrees with something they believe in, they think they need to educate and attack that person.
I support the ACLU. I support, for the most part, the concerns and aims expressed by Black Lives Matters although I don't always agree with some of what they do. I support making it easier to vote for all Americans, not more difficult. I admire men like John Lewis, although I didn't always agree with his political positions. One of my heros is Martin Luther King Jr., although sometimes he was a little too socialistic for me. I don't like seeing race used to divide us, and both parties do this. Republicans moreso though in my opinion. And I don't believe in discrimination against homosexuals and transgender Americans.
I'm not claiming the Democratic Party is perfect either. I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent who doesn't feel the need to defend either party to the death.
I left the Democratic Party about a year ago when they decided to appease the leftist mob. I’m a registered Libertarian now. We have good theories and Tiger King candidates
I looked into the Libertarian Party when I left the Republican Party. I'm just not a Libertarian though. I don't consider them a centrist party either.
I don’t want to be in a party with anyone who thinks this. Over half our country is dumb as hell and couldn’t explain what they are voting for. Trying to get the dregs of society to the polls is why we have two parties that are beholden to idiot extremists who give campaign donations. The aclu is only interested in helping the left, they are anti Christian and Black Lives Matter is obviously a money laundering scam for the left. Since blm became a thing blacks are dying faster than ever. Wake up.
Keep talking to centrist Independents like this. Tell them some more how they need to be educated!
Please.😁
What type of Libertarian do you consider yourself to be?
Original poster is a CNN Republican.
Any Republican still supporting the ACLU, or who thinks federalizing voter fraud to secure uniparty rule is one one dumb phukking Republican.
Any Republican still supporting the ACLU, or who thinks federalizing voter fraud to secure uniparty rule is one one dumb phukking Republican.
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