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Would a lawyer lie about this?

If people don't think the media, the DNC and PACs weren't trying to dig up as much sh!t on him during campaigning and the primaries, including business transactions with who and where, you're out of touch. Look what they found on Hillary and she has more people on her side. As far as tax returns, who really cares, he's the first private sector billionaire business man to become president.
 
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They don't underestimate, they say straight up stupid shit every fn day like they're smarter.

Evidently his billions in prime propertie holdings mean he's bad at real estate because he understands bankruptcy. Hardly anybody uses that law to their advantage, especially in real estate.

Hell, everybody just walks away from a prime time hit and says f it, I'm gonna be president.

Yep, he's a dummy.

I couldve put that inheritance in an index fund and sit on my ass and made more. Your emperor has no clothes.

The difference is that my wealth (much smaller) was generated without a $200,000,000 head start and i havent discharged as much as I've made. Wtf is so hard to understand about that? Like it takes talent to inherit money?
 
I couldve put that inheritance in an index fund and sit on my ass and made more. Your emperor has no clothes.

The difference is that my wealth (much smaller) was generated without a $200,000,000 head start and i havent discharged as much as I've made. Wtf is so hard to understand about that? Like it takes talent to inherit money?
$200 million? You need to get your facts straight.
 
The New York Times, no. I won't even read it. He got an initial $1 million loan then a $14 million loan, that Hillary even brought up in a debate. He paid both loans back, also. And now he has a $10 billion empire. A lot of people would've blown it on hookers and blow.
 
$200 million? You need to get your facts straight.
The $200 million figure is what his father was worth when he died. That was split by 5 siblings at $40 million each and much of that was in property not cash.
 
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If people don't think the media, the DNC and PACs weren't trying to dig up as much sh!t on him during campaigning and the primaries, including business transactions with who and where, you're out of touch. Look what they found on Hillary and she has more people on her side. As far as tax returns, who really cares, he's the first private sector billionaire business man to become president.
Just like the other things mentioned in your post, you can bet his tax returns were seen by many inside and perhaps outside the IRS before, during and after the campaign. Remember, one of Romney's supporters had his tax returns leaked to the media. If there was anything in Trump's tax returns which could have been used against him, we'd have seen it.
 
The $200 million figure is what his father was worth when he died. That was split by 5 siblings at $40 million each and much of that was in property not cash.

Someone forgot to tell The Donald.

$200mm was HIS number in that story. I don't know - just going off what he said. If theres an actual source that has his inheritance much lower I'm all ears.
 
Just like the other things mentioned in your post, you can bet his tax returns were seen by many inside and perhaps outside the IRS before, during and after the campaign. Remember, one of Romney's supporters had his tax returns leaked to the media. If there was anything in Trump's tax returns which could have been used against him, we'd have seen it.

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You guys are morons.

Just add up his golf properties.

He started with a MM and turned it into billions.

He's a moron and he kicks your ass every day in every aspect of life.

Keep trying to make a billion look easy it makes you look pedestrian and small.
 
Just like the other things mentioned in your post, you can bet his tax returns were seen by many inside and perhaps outside the IRS before, during and after the campaign. Remember, one of Romney's supporters had his tax returns leaked to the media. If there was anything in Trump's tax returns which could have been used against him, we'd have seen it.

This was always my assumption as well. This government leaks like the Titanic.

My best bet is the taxes, like Russian collusion are just fish dicks to keep the water chummed up until midterms. And everyone know Syskatine is a gay fish.

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I mean holy shit, if you use sys's # he only went from 200mm to billions.

What a dick. What's the return on 200m to go to a billion?
 
Are you sure he is worth a billion? I know he tells you that he is all the time.

But, if I have 200 K in assets and 175 K in credit card debt, it doesn't matter how many times I claim I am worth 200k....I am not being accurate.

He might be exactly what he claims to be. He might not. None of us know for sure.

To act like anyone who wonders about his wealth is an idiot doesn't make sense, since very few people know for sure and they aren't telling.
 
Are you sure he is worth a billion? I know he tells you that he is all the time.

But, if I have 200 K in assets and 175 K in credit card debt, it doesn't matter how many times I claim I am worth 200k....I am not being accurate.

He might be exactly what he claims to be. He might not. None of us know for sure.

To act like anyone who wonders about his wealth is an idiot doesn't make sense, since very few people know for sure and they aren't telling.

Why is his degree of wealth important to know?
 
Just add up his golf holdings. It'll be a really good exercise for you.
 
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Are you sure he is worth a billion? I know he tells you that he is all the time.

But, if I have 200 K in assets and 175 K in credit card debt, it doesn't matter how many times I claim I am worth 200k....I am not being accurate.

He might be exactly what he claims to be. He might not. None of us know for sure.

To act like anyone who wonders about his wealth is an idiot doesn't make sense, since very few people know for sure and they aren't telling.
if that were the case he couldn't be borrowing anything for all these resorts and russian properties he's buying. I guarantee he is highly scrutinized for every penny he borrows and there are a wide variety of ways to determine financial worth. He is nothing like what Chesapeake was (for a local comparison)....highly leveraged on everything.
 
You guys are morons.

Just add up his golf properties.

He started with a MM and turned it into billions.

He's a moron and he kicks your ass every day in every aspect of life.

Keep trying to make a billion look easy it makes you look pedestrian and small.

Are printed words a mirage to you? 1mm? According to who? The guy claimed $200mm in 77. I didnt make that up.
 
if that were the case he couldn't be borrowing anything for all these resorts and russian properties he's buying. I guarantee he is highly scrutinized for every penny he borrows and there are a wide variety of ways to determine financial worth. He is nothing like what Chesapeake was (for a local comparison)....highly leveraged on everything.

You can't guarantee that. It is just a guess.

No one would have believed Chesapeake was highly leveraged 2 years before it became public knowledge.

(I don't know a lot about Chesapeake so I am extrapolating from what you said about them)
 
When he runs a campaign based in good part upon being a hugely rich, incredibly successful businessman, it goes to credibility.
So has there been anything substantive to dispute this other than a lot of speculation?
 
So has there been anything substantive to dispute this other than a lot of speculation?

He has 6 bankruptcies in his past.

The only tax statements that we have seen showed a significant loss during that particular year.

Mark Cuban (who has had no bankruptcies as far as I know) has stated that he has sources that have convinced him that Trump greatly exaggerates his worth.

I admit that the last one is weak, but
I mainly bring it up to point out that bankruptcy is not necessarily business as usual for a multi millionaire/billionaire.
 
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He has 6 bankruptcies in his past.

The only tax statements that we have seen showed a significant loss during that particular year.

Mark Cuban (who has had no bankruptcies as far as I know) has stated that he has sources that have convinced him that Trump greatly exaggerates his worth.

I admit that the last one is weak, but
I mainly bring it up to point out that bankruptcy is not necessarily business as usual for a multi millionaire/billionaire.
Not trying to be difficult. Having a non-politician as President is different than what the mainstream is used to. Cuban isn't near the risk taker Tump is/was, he stumbled into Indiana HS basketball internet feeds, caught the wave of the tech revolution, bought the Mavericks and has sailed smoothly since then. Most people in Trump's case would have taken the syskatine "$200, 000,000" and disappeared. Give me 6 bankruptcies and the opportunity to enable thousands to provide for themselves and their families any day.
 
So has there been anything substantive to dispute this other than a lot of speculation?

Mega asked a question I answered....that's it.

Answering your question, I'd say there hasn't been much substantive showing he's not as rich as he claims. At the same time, there hasn't been much substantive showing he actually as rich as he claims either.

Factor in that he said he would release them....and then he decided not to. Given that, I think it is incredibly reasonable to wonder why and speculate why he lied.
 
When he runs a campaign based in good part upon being a hugely rich, incredibly successful businessman, it goes to credibility.

Arguably, yes. But it seems like most politicians - certainly Trump - have much bigger credibility issues than anything their taxes could tell us.

In Trump's favor $-credibility wise, he mostly self funded his GOP run. And also the Maddow fiasco which revealed he paid a lot in taxes in at least one year diring the disputed period.

It's just really hard to get excited about this. Seems like after the Maddow embarrassment, the perception of taxes as a thing really lost it's curb appeal. So many more interesting and critical things going on, it just seems weird but that's me.
 
Arguably, yes. But it seems like most politicians - certainly Trump - have much bigger credibility issues than anything their taxes could tell us.

In Trump's favor $-credibility wise, he mostly self funded his GOP run. And also the Maddow fiasco which revealed he paid a lot in taxes in at least one year diring the disputed period.

It's just really hard to get excited about this. Seems like after the Maddow embarrassment, the perception of taxes as a thing really lost it's curb appeal. So many more interesting and critical things going on, it just seems weird but that's me.

You have to admit though....when he flat out, bold faced lies about releasing his tax returns repeatedly......it's incredibly understandable for people to then want to see them and speculate about why he did such a bizarre about face.
 
Not trying to be difficult. Having a non-politician as President is different than what the mainstream is used to. Cuban isn't near the risk taker Tump is/was, he stumbled into Indiana HS basketball internet feeds, caught the wave of the tech revolution, bought the Mavericks and has sailed smoothly since then. Most people in Trump's case would have taken the syskatine "$200, 000,000" and disappeared. Give me 6 bankruptcies and the opportunity to enable thousands to provide for themselves and their families any day.

Trump may well be all that he claims to be. I have no idea. Just suspicions. I can tell you that I would be very surprised if Cuban, Buffett or Gates turned out to be leveraged to the hilt, and suddenly needed to sell off assets to pay off some debts. I would be less surprised to find out if it happened to Trump.
 
He has 6 bankruptcies in his past.

The only tax statements that we have seen showed a significant loss during that particular year.

Mark Cuban (who has had no bankruptcies as far as I know) has stated that he has sources that have convinced him that Trump greatly exaggerates his worth.

I admit that the last one is weak, but
I mainly bring it up to point out that bankruptcy is not necessarily business as usual for a multi millionaire/billionaire.

Its statement like this.

You're comparing people in different businesses and applying the same rules.

Educate yourself on the complexities of financing these deals and the protection that bankruptcy provides.
 
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You Trump tax-return people sound just like the Obama birth certificate people.

Except that Obama didn't promise multiple times to provide his birth certificate and then back out.

Also, he did eventually provide it. What do you think the odds are of Trump acting similarly? I'd say zero.

Not a very accurate comparison.
 
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Sure it is an accurate comparison. I said you people crying about his taxes sound just like the people who cried about Obama's birth certificate.

I didn't say the taxes and birth certificate equate in any way. Just that the people crying sound the same.
 
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Its statement like this.

You're comparing people in different businesses and applying the same rules.

Educate yourself on the complexities of financing these deals and the protection that bankruptcy provides.

I know exactly what bankruptcy provides, he screwed his creditors. Thats why your genius cant get a loan from an american bank. That doesnt count rhough, because it was a.... real estate deal? Or does it not count because it was financed in a complex transaction?

Jimmybob has better credit than Biff.
 
Sure it is an accurate comparison. I said you people crying about his taxes sound just like the people who cried about Obama's birth certificate.

I didn't say the taxes and birth certificate equate in any way. Just that the people crying sound the same.

So they sound the same, even though the underlying circumstances are different.

Wow....
 
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You're the titan that sees making 5x your initial investment is child's play.

On the back of your deals not manipulating markets. No prob right.

That's so f'n stupid.
 
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