Trump suggested he has proof and we may see "interesting items coming to the forefront within the next two weeks."
from his interview with Tucker tonight.
from his interview with Tucker tonight.
Wiretap info within next two weeks?
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I wonder if it'll be as explosive as his bombshell his investigators uncovered in Hawaii?
I'll be shocked if anything comes from this. I think he's jacking with the media and in turn jacking with me which pisses me off.
He has nothing. It is going to be another blow to his credibility.
Already trying to spin it as if he was speaking in generalizations instead of specifics. Dumb.
Already trying to spin it as if he was speaking in generalizations instead of specifics. Dumb.
Didn't watch the clip. Don't care what I sound like. He did something stupid and has put himself in a terrible position because he can't control his impulses and opts to Tweet every silly idea that pops into his head.
He's using Democrat tricks. They've been pulling these stunts for years.
We're just not used to seeing this from a Republican.
Yes it sucks, but it is very effective in post fact America.
We're just not used to seeing this from a Republican.
Yes it sucks, but it is very effective in post fact America.
Good observation. The left for years has thrown out outrageous accusations and beat the drum for weeks. When it turns out to be nothing they move on the next outrage and all is forgotten.
The only problem Trump has in throwing this back into their faces is he won't have the media to provide cover.
If he is proven to be right then outside of the conservative outlets this subject will be dropped by the MSM and Democrats like a blazing hot potato.
Been jammin you forgot to respond in the anti Semite thread. We don't want you to absorb another blow to your credibility
Not concerned about my credibility with most of the dug in conservatives on this board. Not going to beat my head against the wall in an effort to change anyone's mind. Losing battle and waste of time.
If you don't care about your credibility with people from the other side then why should Donald Trump?
First of all I am aware about the lack of effort you are putting into your credibility. I knew you weren't going to revisit that thread.
Second of all this is a place to learn, discuss and read posted articles, videos. I think that is typical liberal mentality that you think the purpose is to bludgeon people into changing their mind to think just how you think.
Third of all you admitted you have only followed politics for less than a year. I did read that right? How arrogant to think we are the rubes and you are mr enlightened and if we weren't so "dug in" you could bring us to the intellectual promise land that is occupied by liberals.
Oh, I don't know. Maybe because he is the President of the United States. I don't expect him to appeal to all (or even the majority) of his detractors. But, I do expect him to not make shit up, pass it off as fact, and then double down when someone calls him out on it.
I don't think any of you (with maybe 1 exception) are rubes. I am just saying that none of you are going to convert me to your way of thinking, and I am not going to convert any of you to my way of thinking. So, I am not going to waste my time trying. Every one of us seems to be dug in and very unlikely to leave his foxhole.
When I was spending more time, on this board, it was not good for my daily stress level, so I am opting to spend less time here, and enjoy my daily life more.
I am purposely not commenting on that topic as my opinions would only open a new can of worms and a debate that I am not willing to invest time and energy into.
Stay on the porch BJ. You can't hang with the big dogs.
Your opinions (which mirrored the lefty media) were destroyed by the facts. There's nothing left to discuss on that subject, so I'm not sure what new can of anything could be opened.
Straight common sense. "Credibility" with the conservatives is:
Unintentional irony is the best humor.
Forget about the politics or how this "plays" in the USA. If he never presents proof or fulfills his promises to provide evidence "in two weeks" who in the international arena is going to take him seriously again?
If you don't think this has the strong possibility of weakening the US in an international context, I believe you are delusional.
If he ever has to push for international action and claims to have "proof" of something NK, Iran, (fill in the blank) is doing, has done or is planning to do, he's likely not going to have the credibility to get other nations to help out. It really is a danger to be thought of as the little boy who cried wolf. And it's not like this is the first or only time he's been caught telling whoppers during his time in public life.
If you don't think this has the strong possibility of weakening the US in an international context, I believe you are delusional.
If he ever has to push for international action and claims to have "proof" of something NK, Iran, (fill in the blank) is doing, has done or is planning to do, he's likely not going to have the credibility to get other nations to help out. It really is a danger to be thought of as the little boy who cried wolf. And it's not like this is the first or only time he's been caught telling whoppers during his time in public life.
I agree. Similar to the same way we on the right made fun of the red line in Syria or saving $2500 on health insurance. If you can't deliver, shut your pie hole, regardless of party affiliation.
Been...left, right, middle doesn't matter. If your stress level goes up because of this board then you do need to leave. I enjoy your posts and barbs, but man don't get stressed out here, of all places. You have already realized your not going to change anyone's minds and visa versa (although I don't agree with that particularly). There are actually people here who aren't slash and burn bull shitters and have stayed pretty much in a consistent orbit since day one. While they may never change your mind, they do throw out facts to chew on and at the very least should encourage people to look a bit introspectively at their stances/views.
No spin. I'm not defending Trump, in fact, I hate that he's doing it as much as I hated Obama doing it.
If you don't have facts to back up your assertion, keep your mouth shut. IMO
If you don't have facts to back up your assertion, keep your mouth shut. IMO
I don't have high expectations for credible proof, but make no mistake - that does not lessen my belief that it happened, nor will it lessen people who mistrust the deep state and globalists who pull Obama's strings. They aren't idiots and they were not going to leave an "Obama was here" note on a CIA branded wire tapping machine of some kind.
Still, Trump has set the bar to expect some kind of proof and I will be disappointed if he doesn't produce.
Anyway, you've got to be shitting me on the boy who cried wolf analogy. Russia, fascism, hitler, etc. etc. Crying wolf has been crafted into an art form by the neocon/progressive collective. Accusing Trump of it is like Baylor accusing Iowa State of being rapey.
I've changed my mind on issues because of this board. Hell I based all of my votes on state questions in the last election on the info from this board. For example:
If syskatine yes, Harry no. If syskatine no, Harry yes. This board is very helpful in forming or refining opinions.
If syskatine yes, Harry no. If syskatine no, Harry yes. This board is very helpful in forming or refining opinions.
I won't defend Trump either on this type of stuff...although I could care less what the "International Community" thinks of us. Here is the one indisputable fact about MOST in the international community...when they need blood spilled or money to save their wretched little countries they ain't calling Ghostbusters.
The international community, for the most part, sucks and unless they have some direct interest in some event won't do a dam thing to help us or USA.
The international community, for the most part, sucks and unless they have some direct interest in some event won't do a dam thing to help us or USA.
The international community respects power, money, influence and some level of doing what you say you will do. They don't respect bowing, apologizing for greatness, drawing lines in the sand that mean nothing, or giving the internet away for free.
And they won't give one single meaningful shit about a Trump vs Obama spat over wire tapping <--- not delusional. They may tsk tsk it as unseemly, but it won't keep Bulgaria from doing business with us.
Deep state, globalists... jesus you perfectly parrot whatever the right wing media nomenclature is. GIGO.
I absolutely agree we are in a post fact America....and that benefits everyone in American politics....except the American people.
Is two weeks the deadline before we start seeing......"Wiretapping" memes with Jan Brady like with saw about Russia?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around you not believing "Russia" claims because there is (in your evaluation) no credible evidence, but explicitly stating the lack of credible proof (which you are expecting) on Trump's won't lessen your belief that it happened.....with any continued position that we aren't living in a post fact world.
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Deep state. Globalists. That's what they are called, isn't it? They are things that exist as existential threats to our republic. I realize you love them because they fulfill your statist fantasies, but they still must be spoken of from time to time. How should I refer to them? What would make YOU happy? Help me help you @syskatine.
You gotta think for yourself and quit parroting talking points from Breitbart. Youve morphed into becoming a straight up doctrine-following, company man. They are preying on you. You should be more independent.
