Will the President reconsider accepting Syrian refugees...
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I have no faith that Obama will reconsider.
The vetting process for those seeking asylum in the United States is pretty extensive, which is why it's taking so long for any of them to make it to the States. It's truly unfortunate that one of the assholes in Paris managed to sneak in with the refugees, because there are millions of Syrians who have already been victimized by ISIS and are now being, essentially, victimized a second time by them.
The head of the Senate Intelligence Committee said this morning there is no effective way to vett the refugees. I won't be shocked at all if some ISIS sympathizers make it in. My hope is that once they get here they realize we're not as evil as they've been taught and that the vetting process will catch the most fanatical.
Frankly I don't see how in good conscience you can let them in and risk American lives. There are ways to help and support them without bringing them here. That I would fully support.
Frankly I don't see how in good conscience you can let them in and risk American lives. There are ways to help and support them without bringing them here. That I would fully support.
He won't, there isn't, and he's about to seal a legacy he doesn't want. Besides, we've played a major role in their rise and success. The better question is will we continue to support them indirectly in Syria.
Former asst director of the FBI just told Fox News that our vetting is a joke and that we better get ready for what happened in Paris to start happening on US soil.
Not a chance he will stop. The man is absolutely clueless.
These people should be helped by rich Arab nations not Europe or America.
These people should be helped by rich Arab nations not Europe or America.
What are we doing to that makes it "extensive"?
Man we don't know jack shit about 10k damn Syrians.
It only takes one and we are gonna let in 100's.
Call me crazy but we WANT this here.
We don't protect our borders. We literally bring them in.
Then when something happens, it's like the NCAA. Alabama commits infractions, put Georgia State on probation!
France for instance is bombing in Syria. What does that do to stop the likely thousands of terrorists already in France?
It does nothing. It appeases the ignorant masses and gains political publicity points.
It only takes one and we are gonna let in 100's.
Call me crazy but we WANT this here.
We don't protect our borders. We literally bring them in.
Then when something happens, it's like the NCAA. Alabama commits infractions, put Georgia State on probation!
France for instance is bombing in Syria. What does that do to stop the likely thousands of terrorists already in France?
It does nothing. It appeases the ignorant masses and gains political publicity points.
I'm sure none of them are coming in through our southern border. Everybody who comes through Mexico is fully vetted including background checks, credit checks, and cavity checks. They are also required to recite the pledge of allegiance in English.
Some guy was on Fox News last night saying there is no way to vet a lot of them, as many have no type of identification whatsoever. One of the Paris terrorists passed through Greece and was not on any kind of watch list. There is simply no way to know who these people are and what they are capable of/what their intentions are.
A follow up question...
If you are President, do you "save" 10,000 foreign lives by putting 100 of your own at risk?
Or do you ensure the 100 (or 1000, etc) American lives continue by turning 10,000 refugees away, most to their probable death, rape or maiming?
If you are President, do you "save" 10,000 foreign lives by putting 100 of your own at risk?
Or do you ensure the 100 (or 1000, etc) American lives continue by turning 10,000 refugees away, most to their probable death, rape or maiming?
Where are the records coming from to vet these people? Syria is in chaos. The idea that there are any documents to be used to vet these people is foolish thinking. They're not even vetting any of those coming across the Mexico border and cannot tell anyone where these people are resettling. Face it, this administration does not want a trail to find these people once they are in the US.
Why aren't these people being resettled in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Libya or other Muslim country?
Why aren't these people being resettled in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Libya or other Muslim country?
The President is responsible for protecting American lives, not Syrian. Putting soldiers lives at risk is one thing, they signed up for it. Putting civilian lives at risk is another. Very easy to answer that question IMO.
That sounds great and at all but we don't really have a way to keep people from crossing state borders in the US so is that really anything more than just noise?
Put them in the WH. It's obvious it's not being used for anything and they would be among friends.
How difficult would it have been to cordon off part of Syria, provide security and train/equip those people to defend their homeland for themselves?
How difficult would it have been to cordon off part of Syria, provide security and train/equip those people to defend their homeland for themselves?
It's too bad that the FBI director doesn't agree with this. He stated last month in a Congressional hearing that there is no way they can conduct thorough background investigations on the refugees that are headed here.
I'm sorry but this is just bullshit plain and simple. Most of these people have no background to investigate, no form of identification, etc. the most they can do is interview them. And anyone with half a brain can tell them exactly what they want to hear.
There is no way Obama would ever reconsider, that would require him to actually admit a mistake. The fact that he is doubling down on the stupid plan by vilifying anyone that questions it is completely predictable.
Why are there so many Syrian refugees in the first place? Whose failed policy of non-leadership led to this situation where in the "JV" was able to gobble a huge swath of territory in Iraq/Syria?
I think if they DO come to the U.S. a relocation camp in the heart of DC or the VA Suburbs makes the most sense, or maybe in Palo Alto or Ann Arbor?
Why are there so many Syrian refugees in the first place? Whose failed policy of non-leadership led to this situation where in the "JV" was able to gobble a huge swath of territory in Iraq/Syria?
I think if they DO come to the U.S. a relocation camp in the heart of DC or the VA Suburbs makes the most sense, or maybe in Palo Alto or Ann Arbor?
We need to do everything possible to make sure random terrorism stays in the ME. Sure, there are some innocents, but I'll be damned if I want to increase the chances of an IED going off or some lunatic barging into a church, theater, or any other business and killing people in the name God. We have a chance to keep it from happening in it's infant stages, but I'm, sure the liberal Kumbaya police will get their way.
The conservative reaction is so predictable. Lots of fear and aggression, no nuance and hopefully yet another war. At least there's another demographic to blame and scapegoat.
Come off it - Nobody on here knows shit about ISIS' current capabilities or what has been done. Listening to a republican lecture on foreign policy after Dumbya set the table? No thanks. Ditto for HRC, she knew better.
This is what happens when you have such a huge foreign policy failure. It takes smart people, not a dumbass. Greeted as liberators, right? And the awful karma and consequences of Dumbya's stupidity are hardly over.
Come off it - Nobody on here knows shit about ISIS' current capabilities or what has been done. Listening to a republican lecture on foreign policy after Dumbya set the table? No thanks. Ditto for HRC, she knew better.
This is what happens when you have such a huge foreign policy failure. It takes smart people, not a dumbass. Greeted as liberators, right? And the awful karma and consequences of Dumbya's stupidity are hardly over.
Translation: I as a human being have no ability to think for myself so I am going to blame the conservatives for everything oh and Bush even though it has been 7 years since the guy has had anything to do with foreign policy but Dumbya!! The ones going to war are the liberal socicalist there little buddy. America is doing what it does best dating all the way back to WWII and waiting. Yes when we enter we will kick ass but for now the greatest bully buster sits idle worrying about climate change. I guess after an attack on American soil the POTUS and HRC will finally admit there is a problem.
There is an old strategy by the Chinese that if Russia ever invaded China then they would make millions of their people refuges and flood Russia with their people. The idea was that then Russia would either have to deal with all these people and some would be hidden terrorist or they would have to commit mass genocide. Either way Russia would be a loser.
Go sit around the "It will never happen to us" fire and join the song. You can conjure up talk about how all conservative whitey's are women and minority hating racists with those shallow little minds you own. Geez. Also, I haven't read one post in this thread talking about hoping to have another war. Keep throwing your false accusations and stereotypical BS out there.
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Whether or not GWB made a mistake going into Iraq, he hasn't been President now for almost 7 years. Iraq was unquestionably in better shape prior to Obama's pigheaded decision to pull out of Iraq completely. Don't forget, BO and Biden were calling Iraq a smashing success of their administration 3 short years ago.
These governors know that they have absolutely no authority to not allow these people in to their state right?
Please explain. Not a flame question. Just want to know why they have no authority.
There you go. First, in a war with China
Stated another way, where does a governor get the authority to tell someone where they can and can't live?
Stated another way, where does a governor get the authority to tell someone where they can and can't live?
So we are going to get all of the Syrians because we are in a war with Syria? Who started that?
I like the fact the these governors are standing up and saying no because it sends a clear message....however, it is just rhetoric and they have no legal authority to keep it from happening. Knowing Obama he'll drop all 10,000 in OK because he knows how much he is disliked here.
The Supreme Court of the US has long held that the freedom of movement between states is a constitutionally protected right for citizens and legal residents. The SCOTUS has defined, going as far back as 1823, the freedom of movement to include the right of free ingress into other states and egress from them.
