I really like the freestyle rules except for this one. I think once you turn a guy with a move to get more back points you should have to release that hold and hook it up again like in collegiate wrestling.
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Shot clock rule is really really stupid. Push out rule is sort of silly to.
The fact you can grab a guys ankles, roll around and win also keeps FS from really grabbing the casual fan.
I wonder if DT sees something in Thompson to keep him around.
Wolbert techs Glade Harman 10-0 in 0:33.
Ronnie beats Vincent Kilkeary 5-2 in a tough match.
JJ techs Tas Storer 12-0 in about 1:50.
Ronnie beats Vincent Kilkeary 5-2 in a tough match.
JJ techs Tas Storer 12-0 in about 1:50.
My guess is that he wanted to see him compete this weekend before decisions are made
I agree on the multiple back exposures in a row. I don't agree on the step out - I would rather collegiate rules have a step out rule instead of a stalling on the edge being left up to the ref. The 30 second passivity clock I could take or leave.
An offensive strategy to try to push someone is silly and doesn’t help create or reward offense.
I understand wanting to penalize edge wrelsting but I think you are rewarding the wrong things.
Robideau techs Landyn Sommer 12-2 in 2:50. Gave up a takedown in the a failed attempt to crotch lift Sommer.
Dee techs Donavan Smith 11-0 in 0:49.
Guerrero techs Michael Kersey 10-0 in 0:20.
Dee techs Donavan Smith 11-0 in 0:49.
Guerrero techs Michael Kersey 10-0 in 0:20.
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Why is it silly? It is the entire goal of sumo wrestling. It is a very clear an unambiguous rule. If a wrestler is strong enough and technical enough and has the mat awareness and control to move his opponent from the center all the way to the edge and his opponent can't stop him he should be rewarded for that. Also how would you fix stalling on the edge?
Plott takes 5th, beating Hayden Walters 8-0. Solid work going up a weight without building into it. I think 92kg could be a good weight for him if he puts on some muscle.
I agree. Plott could add 10lbs of muscle at this weight and be a factor. He needs to build up his hips and legs as much as possible.
Or you have the case I saw in Teague’s match where he was in on a shot and driving the opponent backwards but the opponent got in a hip lock and twisted so Teague touched out of bounds first and the opponent got the point for running backwards smartly.
Ethan Teague beats Jake Slotnick 6-5. Was down late and got a 4-point move with about 40 seconds left.
Colin Young loses to Daniel Heiser 10-8. Was down big but kept fighting.
Colin Young loses to Daniel Heiser 10-8. Was down big but kept fighting.
I agree it was a good counter but that doesn’t make it worth a point. The last takedown in the match where Teague was in on the legs and they both ended up getting 2 back points was also a joke. This is supposed to be wrestling, not some pansy ass hybrid between wrestling and gymnastics where you get style points.
Even with the loos was happy to see him keep pushing it, that’s the attitude we need in the room.
There are literally hundreds of styles of wrestling in the world and different ways to score in each style. Forcing your opponent to expose his back is a big deal in freestyle. I don't think John Smith or David Taylor would agree that freestyle is a pansy ass sport.
Didn’t say it’s a pansy ass sport, I said that in my opinion there are some pansy ass rules that don’t lead to actually trying to pin your opponent. A leg lace is very rarely going to lead to an actual fall which is what i was thought was the ultimate result in wrestling. Everyone has their favorite style. When I was a much much younger I loved trying to wrestle Greco, but as a spectator, other than the big moves, I find it a little boring to watch. That is not meant to denigrate the participant, I just won’t spend much time watching it. I feel the same way about freestyle with the rules that exist today. Those are the rules, so I absolutely don’t criticize the wrestlers or coaches for doing their best under those rules, I just prefer collegiate (folkstyle) much more and will,spend much more time and effort to watch those matches.
And forgive me for being a crotchety old man😁
I get it. I don't like allowing consecutive laces or gut wrenches personally. However there are also lots of rules in collegiate that do not promote pinning people. Riding time does not promote pinning people. There are lots of tilts in collegiate that never result in pins etc...
He needs to move on. He will never wrestle for OSU.
I'm sure Taylor will do what's best for the team. Having said that, team depth and having a room full of tough competitors is critical.
I've seen several complaints about the U20 seeds overall. Not sure how it's done
Ronnie techs Camren French 10-0 in 0:48. 2 TDs and 3 turns.
Wolbert techs Trey Wagner 12-0 in 0:55. Had Askren in his corner.
JJ loses to Geronimo Rivera 5-0.
Wolbert techs Trey Wagner 12-0 in 0:55. Had Askren in his corner.
JJ loses to Geronimo Rivera 5-0.
Haven't seen an explanation. Just that he would be at Trials next month
Dee starts off with a double leg that I thought should've been 4. 2-0. Then a duck under to trap-arm gut. 6-0. Denny exposes Dee and then Dee reverses. 7-2. That ends the first period.
Second period. Dee gets an ankle and takedown. Denny hit for fleeing (I think). 10-2 and Denny has to start in par terre. Dee gets a gut to finish 12-2 tech in 3:47.
Second period. Dee gets an ankle and takedown. Denny hit for fleeing (I think). 10-2 and Denny has to start in par terre. Dee gets a gut to finish 12-2 tech in 3:47.
Robideau techs Aidan Torres 11-0 in 1:23.
Colin Young techs Jacob Weaver 10-0 in 1:20.
Guerrero loses to Kane Naaktgeboren 14-5.
Colin Young techs Jacob Weaver 10-0 in 1:20.
Guerrero loses to Kane Naaktgeboren 14-5.
Ethan Teague (21 seed) vs. Collin Guffey (12 seed). Teague gets a crotch lock and turns him over early. Later in the first period, Teague gets a TD that's called off for going before the whistle (I didn't think he was early). No matter, he gets a TD off the very next whistle. Teague up 4-0 to end the first.
Second period. One minute left, Guffey chest wrap and turns Teague over for 2. Teague reverses for 1, but appears to have hurt his shoulder. 5-2. Taking injury time. With 15 seconds left Guffey gets another turn off a chest wrap. 5-4. Now 7 seconds left... Again in the chest wrap and again Guffey turns Teague. Challenge brick thrown because it was close to 0:00 but I think it will stand. 4 points + 1 for lost challenge.
Teague loses 9-5.
Second period. One minute left, Guffey chest wrap and turns Teague over for 2. Teague reverses for 1, but appears to have hurt his shoulder. 5-2. Taking injury time. With 15 seconds left Guffey gets another turn off a chest wrap. 5-4. Now 7 seconds left... Again in the chest wrap and again Guffey turns Teague. Challenge brick thrown because it was close to 0:00 but I think it will stand. 4 points + 1 for lost challenge.
Teague loses 9-5.
That's a tough loss. I hope he takes away from this that he needs to defend the chest wrap - that's the only move the other kid had.
I could not believe in a short period of time he allows his opponent to put him in a front head lock over and over with the same results. He earned that loss. He should have just moved at the end but he didn't. Your right he should have won but when you keep putting yourself in a horrible position you get what you deserve. Lockett, Wolbert and Robideau wrestled great.
