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Trump to order a major investigation into voter fraud

Tell me about state cooperation

Did California allow a review?

Don’t be a tease

Good to see JD jump on the Pussyhat wagon just because he loves to feel like he’s being all contrarian and shit

Somebody’s got a case of sour grapes.

I thought you were a states’ rights, federalism guy.

Have another one.
 
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This is the reason why the Electoral College is a great institution. It is a firewall between state corruption/voter fraud and the outcome of the presidential election.

Let California screw up their elections; they only have so many votes.

The real power is in the census. As long as foreign nationals aren't counted for representation then we are okay.
 
To recap. Looks like the Commission mostly agreed with me.

Kind of where I am.

I anticipate that an investigation will reveal isolated examples of actual voter fraud (which is why I was working on a working definition we could all agree on...good luck with that), but nowhere remotely near the two or three million claimed by Spice/Trump....and nowhere near enough to turn the election.

Redefining what they actually claimed....Trump will say see I told you so....the left will say the same...and we can move on.

I'm talking about organized efforts to add or change votes illegally. I think it's in the millions.

 
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Still drinking, I see.

WTF are you talking about now?

I’m almost always drinking ...., see handle

How do you prove illegal actions when state governments obstruct and prevent any real investigation?

Why would states obstruct a review if everything is on the up and up?

Pussyhats have been crying about how we need to make sure our sacred voting rights are secure and free from illegal activity.

But they are against voter ID.
They are against a review that would identify where issues exist.
They are against keeping illegals off the US census to ensure an appropriate apportionment of congressional seats for representation of US citizens.

All fake outrage. They’re just a bunch of butthurt Pussyhats.

Do you WANT your village pillaged?

Naw, I just like to occasionally streak by his kitchen window, shorts in hand, while he’s sipping on some joe

He be like

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I’m almost always drinking ...., see handle

How do you prove illegal actions when state governments obstruct and prevent any real investigation?

Why would states obstruct a review if everything is on the up and up?

Pussyhats have been crying about how we need to make sure our sacred voting rights are secure and free from illegal activity.

But they are against voter ID.
They are against a review that would identify where issues exist.
They are against keeping illegals off the US census to ensure an appropriate apportionment of congressional seats for representation of US citizens.

All fake outrage. They’re just a bunch of butthurt Pussyhats.



Naw, I just like to occasionally streak by his kitchen window, shorts in hand, while he’s sipping on some joe

He be like

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State’s are under no duty to release the information the non-criminal Commission demanded. Some people aren’t okay with bowing down to the federal government and releasing personal data of their voters to a Star Chamber that announced conclusions before any investigation. Commission could have actually litigated the lawsuits if they truly believed they had a case. Instead, they bailed.

Maybe not claim massive voter fraud in the millions until you you have....I dunno.....actual proof in hand.
 
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State’s are under no duty to release the information the non-criminal Commission demanded. Some people aren’t okay with bowing down to the federal government and releasing personal data of their voters to a Star Chamber that announced conclusions before any investigation. Commission could have actually litigated the lawsuits if they truly believed they had a case. Instead, they bailed.

Maybe not claim massive voter fraud in the millions until you you have....I dunno.....actual proof in hand.

Are you even attempting to keep up?

Polling shows individuals admitting they voted as non-citizens.

You have counties in California with more voters than eligible adults.

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Don’t sit here like a dummy and act like there is no reason for suspicion.

People admitted to it in polls for ****sake

People wanting a review of these situations aren’t unreasonable

What is unreasonable is people like you acting as if there’s nothing to see and trying to label the concerned as crazy conspiracists

@davidallen

When you come to the tailgate be sure to bring a Pussyhat for JD
 
Are you even attempting to keep up?

Polling shows individuals admitting they voted as non-citizens.

You have counties in California with more voters than eligible adults.

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Don’t sit here like a dummy and act like there is no reason for suspicion.

People admitted to it in polls for ****sake

People wanting a review of these situations aren’t unreasonable

What is unreasonable is people like you acting as if there’s nothing to see and trying to label the concerned as crazy conspiracists

@davidallen

When you come to the tailgate be sure to bring a Pussyhat for JD
Hey drunken genius, make sure you wear your dunce hat.

The reason that those numbers are so high is that they include inactive voters with the active one and they get that number over 100%.

There is nothing going on.

Did you even read the story from the San Diego Tribune that that chat comes from?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...eligible-adults-claim-20170809-htmlstory.html

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article166187232.html

Sober up, get off Breitbart and do a little rsearch.
 
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Are you even attempting to keep up?

Polling shows individuals admitting they voted as non-citizens.

You have counties in California with more voters than eligible adults.

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Don’t sit here like a dummy and act like there is no reason for suspicion.

People admitted to it in polls for ****sake

People wanting a review of these situations aren’t unreasonable

What is unreasonable is people like you acting as if there’s nothing to see and trying to label the concerned as crazy conspiracists

@davidallen

When you come to the tailgate be sure to bring a Pussyhat for JD

You try to keep up.

MILYUNS.....MILYUNS....of fraudulent votes was the claim.

MILYUNS.....MILYUNS....said to have already been discovered.

And now we’re crwdadding away from IT DEFINITELY HAPPENED ON A MASSIVE SCALE to...”suspicions”.

Looks like you and your boys overplayed the hand you been dealt.

No shame in admitting that and learning from it.
 
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Hey drunken genius, make sure you wear your dunce hat.

The reason that those numbers are so high is that they include inactive voters with the active one and they get that number over 100%.

There is nothing going on.

Did you even read the story from the San Diego Tribune that that chat comes from?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...eligible-adults-claim-20170809-htmlstory.html

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article166187232.html

Sober up, get off Breitbart and do a little rsearch.

What was the voter turnout?
 
LA county was the same.

Probably nothing to see.

I'd rather remove all doubt.

What if those Russians start casting absentee ballots?
 
We suck at national security, I don't know why we should assume any part of our system is safe.


https://www.americanprogress.org/is...018/02/12/446336/election-security-50-states/

We should definitely be taking all reasonably available measures to keep future elections secure.

Claiming without proof that millions and millions of illegal fraudulent votes were cast in a prior election doesn’t really help accomplish that goal though. In fact, it distracts mightily from it going forward.
 
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Hey drunken genius, make sure you wear your dunce hat.

The reason that those numbers are so high is that they include inactive voters with the active one and they get that number over 100%.

There is nothing going on.

Did you even read the story from the San Diego Tribune that that chat comes from?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...eligible-adults-claim-20170809-htmlstory.html

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article166187232.html

Sober up, get off Breitbart and do a little rsearch.

Yeah I did read it dumbass

Maybe you should quite just taking government officials word for such things.

It’s not unreasonable to want stuff like this looked into.
 
We should definitely be taking all reasonably available measures to keep future elections secure.

Claiming without proof that millions and millions of illegal fraudulent votes were cast in a prior election doesn’t really help accomplish that goal though. In fact, it distracts mightily from it going forward.

Did a quick run through

Where did someone in this thread claim it’s true

I see suspicions

Which I think are reasonable.
 
Did a quick run through

Where did someone in this thread claim it’s true

I see suspicions

Which I think are reasonable.

Also, following quotes also indicate something WELL beyond simple suspicions.

Do you guys realize that Jeff Motherf*cking Sessions will be in charge in the voter fraud investigation?! (after he's confirmed as attorney general)


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"The Justice Department is arguably the most powerful domestic branch of the federal government. Its arms reach into every facet of American life (and not a few places off shore as well), into every courtroom, into every state capitol, every police department, every business, every voting booth, even every Indian reservation, and much more. With some 100,000 employees and a budget of $27 billion, its power, particularly to those on its wrong side, is limitless.

Sessions, 69, who has served in the Senate since 1997, previously was an Assistant U.S. Attorney and then Ronald Reagan’s U.S. Attorney in Alabama (both Justice Department positions), and the state’s elected attorney general.

In the Senate, he has served on the Judiciary Committee, which has oversight jurisdiction of the Justice Department. So he has seen firsthand what has gone on at the Obama Justice Department, and it is probably no understatement to say that there is a good deal of it that does not meet with his approval."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...neral-jeff-sessions-liberals-worst-nightmare/

Some states tried to purge their voter rolls of dead people and were stopped by the courts after the Civil Rights division of the DOJ stepped in against the states. We will have a different Civil Rights division soon.

Re: True the Vote. They were one of the organizations Lois Lerner and the IRS went after.

The best part is this is exactly what the liberal press said all day yesterday. "If there was a scandal like this, where is the investigation?"

Surprise, here it is!

Yeah, he rope-a-doped them into it.

The lumbering corporate media is like George Foreman in Ali vs Foreman round 8.



I have no doubt that there is massive voter fraud. There's too much power at stake, it appears fairly easy to do, and both sides can rationalize it.

During the recount in Michigan, didn't authorities uncover loads of corruption?

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/

Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds.
 
So the article guns linked

Nothing to see here?

Guarantee-****in-tee there’s he something to see if the media believed those admitted illegal votes went to trump

Ah...the old distract and deflect with with the hpothetical prediction.

Did you even read the quotes and quoted people I cited?

Doesn’t sound like it.

It wasn’t just guns....and the statements went well beyond “suspicions”.

It’s all good though. I think we all get MAGA’s hand was overplayed on this. I wouldn’t have had a problem with suspicions.....hell, I didn’t even have a problem with an investigation. Probably ought to investigate before drawing conclusions and making proclamations though. Otherwise you end up crawdadding away like now.
 
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Election experts say Kris Kobach's voter fraud claims are misleading
By Clare Foran, CNN
Updated 6:31 AM EDT, Wed August 08, 2018
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Washington (CNN)Kris Kobach, the former vice-chair of President Donald Trump's now-disbanded commission on election integrity, and Maine's Democratic Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap have engaged in a public back and forth over the issue of voter fraud, with Kobach accusing Dunlap, a former member of the commission, of being "willfully blind to the voter fraud in front of his nose," and Dunlap claiming that the commission failed to find evidence of widespread fraud.

But election experts say that Kobach's claims are misleading and obscure the reality that voter fraud is rare in the context of the more than 1 billion votes cast since 2000.

In a statement sent to CNN on Saturday claiming that Dunlap is "willfully blind," Kobach, who serves as Kansas' Republican secretary of state, said that the commission "was presented with more than 1,000 convictions for voter fraud since the year 2000." Kobach further claimed that this finding was only a fraction of the total and said that the "commission was also presented approximately 8,400 instances of double voting in the 2016 election looking only at 20 states."

The statement did not cite sources for the numbers and Kobach's office did not respond to a CNN request asking what evidence the information was based on.
 
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