Trump fires James Comey

[NZ Poke]

The more time that passes the more that I think Trump is simply a dumbass. Dumbasses get lucky too. My father always said it's better to be lucky than good. The reason politicians play politics is that it works. The swamp is not getting drained, the wall is not getting built, and Obamacare is not getting repealed. I'd love to have an outsider candidate like Trump that wasn't a dumbass....but he is a dumbass so it will be difficult in the future for a non-dumbass outsider to get elected.

Hello, instant gratification. It's going to take more than 100 days - or even 300 days.


Think of it this way: 55+ years ago, the literal number 1 WW2 strategist and eventual president Dwight Eisenhower was warning of the military industrial complex.


Ike couldn't put a dent in the military industrial complex, and the military industrial complex has continued to grow non-stop since (hello F-35 fighter).

A short time after, Kennedy warned of a similar thing, and he was assassinated:

The "swamp" has had decades to grow almost uncontrollably (it rules both political parties).



The swamp became even stronger with Citizens United -- which allowed transnational corporations to endorse political candidates and and spend unlimited money on them.

 

[davidallen]

I think you are misquoting me and implying team politics angles that don't exist, but someday I'll be happy to explain to you on PM why I have a personal interest in seeing a possible pedophilia ring shut down.

Won't hear from me again on that topic, not in public for sure.

To the question of an independent investigation, how do you dismiss the smoke from Mannafort, Page, and Flynn?

 

[HighStickHarry]

How can you believe that Trump is extremely intelligent, and knows exactly what he is doing in leading our country...while also believing that he isn't political and doesn't care about politics?

If he is the genius leader he is often made out to be, then he would absolutely take politics into account before making a decision. He would look at the big picture and consider all ramifications prior to making a decision. He can't accomplish anything significant without support from Congress. He can't remain POTUS if he is impeached, and has no chance at re-election without the support of the Republican party. He has to be political and play the political game if he is going to be a successful president.

He can accomplish things that are significant without congress. See Border crossings.

He can remain president if impeached. Can't quite remember when that happened last...

He won the nomination/presidency without support of the republican.

He does not have to play the game to be successful.

 

[PepeDeFrog29]

Libtardia didn't know they were supposed to be outraged, not pleased, about the Comey firing. Colbert corrected them.

 

[Been Jammin]

He can accomplish things that are significant without congress. See Border crossings.

He can remain president if impeached. Can't quite remember when that happened last...

He won the nomination/presidency without support of the republican.

He does not have to play the game to be successful.

I think you are either very naive or rationalizing on 3 of your points. Just my opinion.

 

[NZ Poke]

Libtardia didn't know they were supposed to be outraged, not pleased, about the Comey firing. Colbert corrected them.

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The swamp controls mainstream entertainment.



Examples: Stephen Colbert had content controlled and dictated by the Clinton Global Initiative.

John Oliver had content controlled by the Clinton Foundation.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Libtardia didn't know they were supposed to be outraged, not pleased, about the Comey firing. Colbert corrected them.

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They reacted before getting the lib group email.

 

[Rdcldad]

Libtardia didn't know they were supposed to be outraged, not pleased, about the Comey firing. Colbert corrected them.

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hearing those tards cheer was funny as eff

hope south park hammers them

 

[Rdcldad]

 

[NZ Poke]

 

[JohnVoight]

Gowdy would be a great pick....if you want to remove any semblance of political impartiality and independence in the FBI.

That's a fair point. Is the FBI director subject to majority vote or the 60 vote rule?

 

[CowboyJD]

That's a fair point. Is the FBI director subject to majority vote or the 60 vote rule?

I'm not sure.

 

[TPOKE]

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This is what is so childish about politics. Did she call for an investigation into Hillary's Email scandal? Both sides turn a blind eye when their party does something questionable like the other party does. Really sick of the whole thing.

 

[NeekReevers]

Hello, instant gratification. It's going to take more than 100 days - or even 300 days.


Think of it this way: 55+ years ago, the literal number 1 WW2 strategist and eventual president Dwight Eisenhower was warning of the military industrial complex.


Ike couldn't put a dent in the military industrial complex, and the military industrial complex has continued to grow non-stop since (hello F-35 fighter).

A short time after, Kennedy warned of a similar thing, and he was assassinated:

The "swamp" has had decades to grow almost uncontrollably (it rules both political parties).



The swamp became even stronger with Citizens United -- which allowed transnational corporations to endorse political candidates and and spend unlimited money on them.

I don't disagree with any of that, and the reason I don't think he's going to get the above mentioned things done is not because he hasn't done them it's because I've seen nothing to lead me to believe he has the competence to get them done. There is only one way to get those things done and that is the "power of the bully pulpit." For that to happen he needs the support of the people so that Congress realizes they either need to get on board or their constituents are going to vote them out of office. That doesn't happen with a 40% approval rating and that's why politicians play politics and why he needs to figure it out soon or his presidency is going to be a disaster. I think you and I probably agree on most of the issues, we just disagree that Trump is the man to deal with them.

 

[imprimis]

Lots of Stage 4 Retardinoma (thanks Medic) still circulating among the libs, media, never Trumpers, establishment and pundits/posters. If just one little shred of evidence were to surface or be leaked they could all be cured of their malady. But no, they will continue searching the rat hole for something which hasn't been shown to exist.

 

[07pilt]

What does it mean for an FBI director to have a 10 year term, if they are subject to at will firing? Seems pretty meaningless.

 

[CowboyJD]

What does it mean for an FBI director to have a 10 year term, if they are subject to at will firing? Seems pretty meaningless.

Primarily, it results in the President going under some political heat and scrutiny if he fires the FBI Director.

It's a little bit of insulation, but not much.

 

[07pilt]

Nevermind. 10 years is the term limit, unless waived by the Senate.

 

[Been Jammin]

What does it mean for an FBI director to have a 10 year term, if they are subject to at will firing? Seems pretty meaningless.

Technically, they are not subject to at will firing. Have to be fired with cause. With that said, I'm not sure how clearly the "cause" has to be demonstrated. In this case, I think Comey has made enough enemies on both sides of the aisle that he won't have many people supporting him and claiming that he was mistreated.

 

[PDT816]

That's a fair point. Is the FBI director subject to majority vote or the 60 vote rule?

The "60 vote rule" invokes cloture -- a procedure that ends debate and calls for a vote.

It applies to all business the Senate takes up where is someone is trying to prevent a vote from taking place. The media has hijacked what it actually is somewhat because everyone is always trying to block something these days and it takes 60 votes to end a filibusterer so people can vote on a matter that only takes 51 votes to pass.

Nuclear option is it just takes 51 to invoke cloture, it does not change the number of votes needed to confirm a nominee.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Donald Trump is trolling big-time on this. And the Democrats and the mainstream media are doing exactly as he thought he would and he is sitting back laughing his ass off as he is meeting with the Russians today of all days. This is a giant F-You to the Washington establishment, the Democrats and the mainstream media. I love it.

 

[CowboyJD]

Technically, they are not subject to at will firing. Have to be fired with cause. With that said, I'm not sure how clearly the "cause" has to be demonstrated.

Incorrect. The statute in question re:FBI Director is merely a term limit, not a tenure status one.

Additionally, there is D.C. circuit case saying the same thing re: Executive branch positions and a long line of cases since Marbury v. Madison that support the notion that all Executive Branch employees serve at the discretion of the President unless expressly given protection from firing by statute (and that Congress's authority to restrict the President's authority re: hiring and firing is limited by the concept of separation of powers doctrine).

 

[HighStickHarry]

This is all liberals. Example number 1 million that actual objectivity is a unicorn. I don't know how you even go about explaining that when confronted.

 

[NZ Poke]

Donald Trump is trolling big-time on this. And the Democrats and the mainstream media are doing exactly as he thought he would and he is sitting back laughing his ass off as he is meeting with the Russians today of all days. This is a giant F-You to the Washington establishment, the Democrats and the mainstream media. I love it.

Agree with you --- the deep state (and their Republican and Democrat patsies) doesn't like it. So this is a good move.

#DrainTheSwamp

 

[NZ Poke]

It would be great if we could let our FBI truly investigate this.

People are rotting in jail cells for a tiny microfraction of what Hillary and her people did.


Flashbacks:

 

[HighStickHarry]

Comey has been investigating trump/Russia since July. I've never worked for the FBI, but I imagine there are a lot of details compiled right now and everyone asked has said zero collusion evidence. If some trump plant takes over the FBI are we going to have even more zero evidence of collusion?

 

[Been Jammin]

Donald Trump is trolling big-time on this. And the Democrats and the mainstream media are doing exactly as he thought he would and he is sitting back laughing his ass off as he is meeting with the Russians today of all days. This is a giant F-You to the Washington establishment, the Democrats and the mainstream media. I love it.

Yes, he is the most brilliant of men and one step ahead of everyone else on the planet.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

This is all liberals. Example number 1 million that actual objectivity is a unicorn. I don't know how you even go about explaining that when confronted.

In fairness Biff did wait six months, until Comey was invstigating HIM. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

 

[HighStickHarry]

In fairness Biff did wait six months, until Comey was invstigating HIM. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

tell me this. Why would you and the liberal horde want the man who handed the election to Donald trump 11 days before the election as blamed by the queen bee, be in charge of this investigation?

 

[NZ Poke]

Yes, he is the most brilliant of men and one step ahead of everyone else on the planet.

Definitely one of the quickest thinkers of all time.

This single moment below was the deep state trying to KO Trump (literally) ---- and he paried it.

Could anyone else have done this? It was truly a monumental moment that imprinted itself into people's minds.

Compare Trump's almost impossible question to answer, to the deep state giving Hillary the debate questions in advance. (And Hillary not telling anyone)

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

tell me this. Why would you and the liberal horde want the man who handed the election to Donald trump 11 days before the election as blamed by the queen bee, be in charge of this investigation?

He's not my first choice. That's not the point. The point is that Biff is trying to squash the investigation, and it's pretty obvious.

Btw Harry, Claude broke the grand jury subpoenas a week ago, and it took CNN a week to substantiate it. Here's the latest rumor:

 

[NZ Poke]

Fantastic new analysis (as always) from Scott Adams -- who told the Washington Post that Trump would win in a landslide in March of 2016.

(in contrast to Scott Adams, the New York Times, Huffington Post, and CNN) gave Hillary a 90% chance of winning the election)

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Time for a good distraction from all this subpoena/Russia/Comey business... Wouldn't be at all surprised if we hook it up with North Korea now.

 

[CowboyJD]

Fantastic new analysis (as always) from Scott Adams -- who told the Washington Post that Trump would win in a landslide in March of 2016.

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I have a question. How long does predicting Trump would win mean every single analysis of of Scott Adams and weirdo shirtless guy get is absolutely correct, fantastic, brilliant, and absolutely spot on? How long is that fact going to be used as an argument to authority to bolster their subsequent propositions?

Just wondering because I read this "fantastic analysis" and what I see is an admission that he only has a cursory understanding of the topic of firing Comey and an assertion that the topic is too complicated for the public to understand. When I've actually taken time to listen to weirdo shirtless guy (only twice), I've discovered absolutely incorrect factual and legal assertions from which his analysis proceeded.

I'm all for rejecting or questioning the "conventional wisdom", I just don't see why doing so has to include adopting and endorsing other people's "unconventional wisdom" wholesale....which is what I see you doing here.

 

[NZ Poke]

Time for a good distraction from all this subpoena/Russia/Comey business...

No way - the gloves are coming off now.

This "Russia" thing was created to divert emotionally distraught Democrat sheep's attention away from Hillary wasting a billion dollars of corporation money (and deep state assistance) -- and still failing monumentally in the election -- she couldn't even cheat her way to victory with the government and media's assistance. (that's how bad her loss truly was)


As James Clapper, the head of the NSA from 2010 - 2017 said -- there was zero evidence of any of this Russia shit. (and Clapper had access to everything)

James Clapper couldn't have been any more clear or specific in this 30 second clip -- listen for yourself:







We have unbelievably deep massive corruption to expose (that crosses deep into both parties) -- it's now or never.


A few examples of things that could have been addressed while our "leaders" were wasting time on "Russia."

 

[CowboyJD]

No way - the gloves are coming off now.

This "Russia" thing was created to divert emotionally distraught Democrat sheep's attention away from Hillary wasting a billion dollars of corporation money (and deep state assistance) -- and still failing monumentally in the election -- she couldn't even cheat her way to victory with the government and media's assistance. (that's how bad her loss truly was)


As James Clapper, the head of the NSA from 2010 - 2017 said -- there was zero evidence of any of this Russia shit. (and Clapper had access to everything)

James Clapper couldn't have been any more clear or specific in this 30 second clip -- listen for yourself:

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I especially like the conflation of what Clapper said about Russian collusion to the "whole Russian thing".

Where were you and your other "unconventional thinkers" posting in support or citing him when Trump was attacking him for and dismissing him for these statements.....

https://www.cnet.com/news/ex-intelligence-chief-james-clapper-warns-more-russian-hacks/ ?

 

[CowboyJD]

That's a rhetorical question.

I know the answer.

 

[HighStickHarry]

He's not my first choice. That's not the point. The point is that Biff is trying to squash the investigation, and it's pretty obvious.

Btw Harry, Claude broke the grand jury subpoenas a week ago, and it took CNN a week to substantiate it. Here's the latest rumor:

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Yea that's not the point. You guys are amazing. I have no doubt if there is russia collusion it will come out and the wolves will feed on trumps bones. Until then, just go by clapper and Diane Feinstein. You trust them or has trump got to them too?

I don't think a lot of us are saying there is no Russia, it just strikes as odd that the wa po wouldn't already have it.

 

[imprimis]

This is what is so childish about politics. Did she call for an investigation into Hillary's Email scandal? Both sides turn a blind eye when their party does something questionable like the other party does. Really sick of the whole thing.

Did she (Debbie Whatshername Sergeant Schultz) seek an investigation or appointment of a special prosecutor for the DNC's collusion with the media in the democrat campaign or the DNC's fix to deny Bernie the nomination?

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Yea that's not the point. You guys are amazing. I have no doubt if there is russia collusion it will come out and the wolves will feed on trumps bones. Until then, just go by clapper and Diane Feinstein. You trust them or has trump got to them too?

I don't think a lot of us are saying there is no Russia, it just strikes as odd that the wa po wouldn't already have it.

I'm amazing, but you're not saying there's no russia. Okie doke.

Release the tax returns. Be transparent. Demand a thorough investigation instead of denying one if he's innocent. That's so easy.

I'm sorry, Harry, but Biff keeps acting really guilty. He's his own worst enemy.