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Trump/Affirmative Action

As someone who scoffs at the SJW term "white privilege", you will have to educate me on this.
How can there be "white privilege" but not all white people have that privilege? Is it a certain shade or tone of the white color that provides the privilege? If a white person doesn't have it, how can they reclaim it?
He doesn't know what it is either. It's just one of those lefty buzzwords that people like him use to try to keep his kind from labeling him with some "ist" or "phobe" word. Those are like a death sentence.
 
When is Affirmitive Action going to reach the rosters of the NBA? They are trying to diversify the Head Coaches and the front offices, but the big paying jobs are on the rosters. Why does no one see a problem on NBA rosters, has to be because white people are disadvantaged somehow on making these rosters. The rosters are 75% black and why are the white HC's and front offices discriminating against white players who are somehow disadvantaged? How do we bring more racial equality to the NBA? Somehow these black players have a black privilege card that they even are not aware of and they need to be sympathetic to the white players who have a built in disadvantage.
 
Why solve a problem that you admit is economic and family status based but instead of targeting that variable you switch the variable and utilize race, instead??

First, I never posted it was solely economic and family based. I acknowledged these play a role, as does the historical and current disadvantages faced by minority groups.

And secondly, I do wish to target the economic disadvantages faced by these individuals. Hence the reason that I and others on the left support policies that do just that.

This is not an either/or question.

I am all for looking at solutions at the root cause.

I am too, but part of the root cause is the disadvantages that minorities have faced and continue to face.
 
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As someone who scoffs at the SJW term "white privilege", you will have to educate me on this.
How can there be "white privilege" but not all white people have that privilege?

Read what else I posted...

"This goes along with a socioeconomic privilege that also exists. Some people experience these privileges without even knowing they are experiencing them because they are a part of the fabric of our society that has developed over the years."

I don't believe there is just one "privilege" at work. I believe there are numerous privileges at work. You have even admitted there is socioeconomic concerns at play, which I agree with. I just also have no problem admitting that there is also racial and gender concerns as well.
 
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Read what else I posted...

"This goes along with a socioeconomic privilege that also exists. Some people experience these privileges without even knowing they are experiencing them because they are a part of the fabric of our society that has developed over the years."

I don't believe there is just one "privilege" at work. I believe there are numerous privileges at work. You have even admitted there is socioeconomic concerns at play, which I agree with. I just also have no problem admitting that there is also racial and gender concerns as well.

So poor white people dont have privilege? Sounds to me that shows the fallacy of the term "white privilege".
 
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So poor white people dont have privilege? Sounds to me that shows the fallacy of the term "white privilege".

Bernie said there aren't poor white people.




Hillary said white people need to listen.




Of course, this is *all* a playbook. (Pitting groups against each other --- also note that white people aren't the highest earners in this country)




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Reinforces my earlier post, numbers far worse than I initially thought, sad that the minority community is a dead man walking in seriously trying to fix this. It has to start with young children at a young age, hence my earlier recommendation for the "help centers". But doing that will take more work than asking Universities to give preferential treatment to the few college ready students they are producing. For minorities, early pregnancy is a lifetime sentence to poverty, this has to be the number one thing young minority children are taught, and close behind that is education as a way to raise your socioeconomic status. Great information.
 
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So poor white people dont have privilege? Sounds to me that shows the fallacy of the term "white privilege".

Perhaps I should have included the words "to a greater extent" in my original post. Because, on certain levels, all white people experience a racial privilege in this country. Some just experience it to a greater extent, based on the combination of other built-in privileges. Sorry that I didn't clarify that as well as I should have.

With that said, here is an article that discusses all of this and is worth the read cable. It is from the Huffington Post, but you seem to be a reasonable person who has no problem reading from numerous sources.

www.huffingtonpost.com/gina-crosleycorcoran/explaining-white-privilege-to-a-broke-white-person_b_5269255.html
 
Bernie said there aren't poor white people.

And Bernie misspoke and clarified what he meant afterwards.

I guess those on the right never misspeak huh? lol

Of course, this is *all* a playbook. (Pitting groups against each other --- also note that white people aren't the highest earners in this country)

No one is pitting anyone against each other. I don't feel pitted against anyone. If you do, perhaps you should consider why that is and if has anything to do with your own presuppositions.
 
Reinforces my earlier post, numbers far worse than I initially thought, sad that the minority community is a dead man walking in seriously trying to fix this. It has to start with young children at a young age, hence my earlier recommendation for the "help centers". But doing that will take more work than asking Universities to give preferential treatment to the few college ready students they are producing. For minorities, early pregnancy is a lifetime sentence to poverty, this has to be the number one thing young minority children are taught, and close behind that is education as a way to raise your socioeconomic status. Great information.

Unfortunately, it all goes back to the creation of the 'War on Poverty' under LBJ in the mid 1960s.

Look what happens in the chart below starting in 1965..........and ironically, we completely changed our immigration in 1965 too. (Immigration Act of 1965)

If any of you haven't studied LBJ, you should.


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. Because, on certain levels, all white people experience a racial privilege in this country.

You just lost all credibility with that statement, scientifically that can not be proven, and it is the biggest lie the "progressives" are selling today. Statements like that just create a further divide within this country and more racism. Condescending BS, perhaps your perceived ability at higher level thinking is just lower level thinking with a lot of words and catch phrases.
 
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You just lost all credibility with that statement, scientifically that can not be proven...Statements like that just create a further divide within this country and more racism.

I encourage you to read the article I linked to as well and seriously consider the point s raised.

btw, i disagree acknowledging these privileges creates more racism. I think acknowledging reality is what will eventually (hopefully) help us overcome racism and prejudices.
 
Perhaps I should have included the words "to a greater extent" in my original post. Because, on certain levels, all white people experience a racial privilege in this country. Some just experience it to a greater extent, based on the combination of other built-in privileges. Sorry that I didn't clarify that as well as I should have.

With that said, here is an article that discusses all of this and is worth the read cable. It is from the Huffington Post, but you seem to be a reasonable person who has no problem reading from numerous sources.

www.huffingtonpost.com/gina-crosleycorcoran/explaining-white-privilege-to-a-broke-white-person_b_5269255.html
I read your link and admit I read it from the lens of thinking the term "white privilege" is a silly SJW term.

That said, reading the article critically, it just strengthened my thought that "white privilege" is a mis-applied term utilized to justify policies and failures.

Here are just two of the sentences in your article that have no basis of fact to back it up:
if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven’t been singled out because of my race"
“I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.”

I believe most who use their term white privilege do so to make excuses, or try to show they have empathy, or simply either struggle with critical thinking. The denominator for success leans heavily on economic status and family background. Solving for educational opportunities by favoring a race over another continues to be counter-productive and ignores the realities of the problem.
 
The fact that Asians (most of whom are the first generation to grow up here) are the most discriminated group against via racist Affirmative Action policies destroys the argument for Affirmative Action and the silly social theories of the SJWs.
 
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admit I read it from the lens of thinking the term "white privilege" is a silly SJW term.

Perhaps you should try reading and understanding the term without this assumption clouding your thinking?

I believe most who use their term white privilege do so to make excuses, or try to show they have empathy, or simply either struggle with critical thinking.

I guess we just have to agree to disagree. I am not trying to make excuses or show I have empathy. Nor do those of us who understand what is meant by white privilege struggle with critical thinking. We simply understand what is being spoken of and do not take offense to the term like some do.

The denominator for success leans heavily on economic status and family background. Solving for educational opportunities by favoring a race over another continues to be counter-productive and ignores the realities of the problem.

As posted earlier, I agree that socioeconomic issues are at play. However, I also have no problem acknowledging reality regarding the role race and gender play in all of this too. And affirmative action has worked! It isn't counterproductive.

Enjoyed the reasonable conversation though! Good to have a discussion on here without the lame name calling and one upmanship.
 
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Whites are being out-earned by Asians, and it looks like Jews are out-earning everyone by a wide margin.


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If we're going to play this identity politics / income inequality game, shouldn't Jewish people be listening to blacks and Hispanics about their privilege?

If?

You do very little but play identity politics every time you post about Jews and the multi-cultural conspiracy.
 
We simply understand what is being spoken of and do not take offense to the term like some do.
Well, if it's actually a real thing, you should be able to easily explain it and even provide concrete examples.

Nobody takes offense to the term. We just laugh at you boring idiots that use it as if it's something more than progressive rhetoric.

Come on almost a lawyer guy, explain it to us without posting some bullshit article from an alt-left website.
 
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Well, if it's actually a real thing, you should be able to easily explain it and even provide concrete examples.

And the article I linked to did just that as well as does any published study/article concerning this issue. However, those who don't want to see or admit this privilege just ignore the examples or make excuses for them.

Nobody takes offense to the term.

Sure some do. It is rather obvious. And I can understand the offense on the part of some. It challenges preconceived notions, which is always troublesome.

No need to take offense though or even deny it. Acknowledging it and striving to make our nation a better place for all people is all that is needed.
 
In the emerging identity politics order, nobody who diverges from approved group-think is safe.

 
It's not a conspiracy.

The push for 'multiculturalism' started long before the immigration act or 1965 passed.

conspiracy: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

You are definitely practicing identity politics every bit as much, if not more, than those you are calling out.
 
In the emerging identity politics order, nobody who diverges from approved group-think is safe.


From the linked article:

"Chappelle’s “black dudes in Brooklyn” joke sounded like the out-of-touch work from an old, grouchy man—and one who seems to have no concept about the epidemic of murders inflicted on the population he feels comfortable enough commenting on repeatedly and at length.And so do those Chappelle told last night. What a goddamn disappointment."

That's it. They disagree with him. They are disappointed. He told his jokes. They didn't like his jokes. They said so on a website.

Yeah, Chappelle should definitely watch his back. There's no telling what they might do to him now. :rolleyes:o_O

You're being hysterically overdramatic....and the flakiest of snowflakes.
 
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And the article I linked to did just that as well as does any published study/article concerning this issue.
The opinion piece started off with...

"I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.”


Duh, dumbshit. That isn't due to some kind of privilege. It's simple statistics and programming for advertising dollars. Blacks account for 13% of the US population. Non-Hispanic whites are 63%. Hispanics are 16%. When 87% of the US population isn't black, you're likely not going to see 50% black programming on TV or in newspapers.

Sorry, but I don't put a whole lot of weight into opinion pieces regardless who they are written by, and especially if they don't cite any factual information. Somebody could easily write an opinion piece that opines that syphilis is an awesome infection to have. Does that make it true in your eyes? Got anything of actual substance?

However, those who don't want to see or admit this privilege just ignore the examples or make excuses for them.
Uh huh. You are absolutely unable to explain it. I'm not to blame for your inability to do anything other than parroting. You. Can't. Explain. It. Nobody here will be shocked. You couldn't explain what a "player performance specialist" was either. But we all knew it was just your way of attempting to make your sniffing the jocks of high school kids seem less creepy to them.

It challenges preconceived notions, which is always troublesome.
No, it doesn't. At all.

No need to take offense though or even deny it. Acknowledging it and striving to make our nation a better place for all people is all that is needed.
No need to deny it? How can I deny something that doesn't exist except in make believe? Can I "deny" Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too?
 
That isn't due to some kind of privilege. It's simple statistics and programming for advertising dollars. Blacks account for 13% of the US population. Non-Hispanic whites are 63%. Hispanics are 16%. When 87% of the US population isn't black, you're likely not going to see 50% black programming on TV or in newspapers.

Exactly.

It is right in front of you and you still can't see it lol. Not much anyone can do about that I guess. Just have to hope one day the light bulb comes on.

You are absolutely unable to explain it. I'm not to blame for your inability to do anything other than parroting. You. Can't. Explain. It.

This whole thread has been a explaination and discussion about it. Links have been given.

There is no explanation for you because you won't accept one. You make excuses for any links given and how you can't accept them for whatever reason you pull out of thin air.

I'm learning Meds there is very little use in doing this back and forth with you. It accomplishes nothing.

Have a good day.
 
Exactly.

It is right in front of you and you still can't see it lol. Not much anyone can do about that I guess. Just have to hope one day the light bulb comes on.



This whole thread has been a explaination and discussion about it. Links have been given.

There is no explanation for you because you won't accept one. You make excuses for any links given and how you can't accept them for whatever reason you pull out of thin air.

I'm learning Meds there is very little use in doing this back and forth with you. It accomplishes nothing.

Have a good day.
Excuses? That's exactly what the quoted post above is. You can't stand that you are unable to put your make believe concept into believable words so it's time for you to tuck tail as usual. That's what happens when you blindly accept what others have told you as fact. Squawk. Toony wants a cracker.

That really went about as well as you pretending you were CowboyJD's equal. LOL. Pretending seems to be your thing dude. It's too bad it isn't convincing though.
 
Excuses? That's exactly what the quoted post above is. You can't stand that you are unable to put your make believe concept into believable words so it's time for you to tuck tail as usual. That's what happens when you blindly accept what others have told you as fact. Squawk. Toony wants a cracker.

That really went about as well as you pretending you were CowboyJD's equal. LOL. Pretending seems to be your thing dude. It's too bad it isn't convincing though.

Hey man, he said.....

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He can't even pretend on Twitter anymore.

What is hilarious is how you continue to think I am somebody else.

Stick with rah rahing JD...that is about all you are good at on this board Chester.
 
It's not exactly secret --- it's just not directly promoted to the public.

Does that make sense?

It probably would be secret if not for soldiers like you doing their duty and informing the sheep of what is happening right under their small noses.
 
Do you believe multiculturalism is a bad thing?

Yes --- it's exponentially better for immigrants to adapt / integrate / assimilate into the societies they immigrate to.

Parallel societies (IE multiculturalism) breaks up societal cohesion and reduces trust.


 
Yes --- it's exponentially better for immigrants to adapt / integrate / assimilate into the societies they immigrate to.

When you use the words "adapt, integrate, assimilate"...what do you mean?

Just want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding you.
 
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