Too close to home...
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I can’t believe he didn’t find a way to work in transgender and immigration issues. What a loser.
The fact that he admits he doesn’t really do anything about it (besides telling the rest of us to wake up to the calamity he’s insists is right around the corner) suggests to me he doesn’t really believe what he’s saying. What does he expect the rest of us to do? Should we do like he does: ride bicycles and give stern lectures to neighbors? He says that 25 years ago we were given maybe 10 years until Mother Earth destroys us all. Now 25 years later the same admonition is declared. He says things are worse, and yet he admits there are now 2 billion more people than 25 years ago. How does he reconcile that? Economists tell us world poverty is dropping like a rock. If we were embroiled in an ecological disaster would that be possible? I’m curious what you find to be “too close to home.”
What does guaranteeing every women's control over their reproductive decisions save the world ecologically?
That one phrase discredits his whole argument and shows he's just a typical liberal SJW hitting all of their talking points.
That one phrase discredits his whole argument and shows he's just a typical liberal SJW hitting all of their talking points.
Fewer carbon emitters on the planet is a good thing, I guess.
Then he should tell that to countries where women don't have the option to abort and are spewing carbon many more times than our country.
The accord is just a feel good, look what we did piece of paper that would be better used to wipe my ass. 99% of the countries that signed it won't follow through or improve their emissions more than the US over the same time period.
You’d think they’d be more in favor of carpet bombings during war. Sure, you have carbon created during the explosions, but it would be a long term victory for the planet, right?
Drive it for a few hundred thousand miles is the best thing you can do for the environment besides parking it and riding a bike.
What were these people thinking? Surely not about the environment!
http://abc7.com/society/co-workers-buy-car-for-teen-who-rides-bike-miles-to-work/2658515/
http://abc7.com/society/co-workers-buy-car-for-teen-who-rides-bike-miles-to-work/2658515/
Do you have any idea how much carbon is created during this process?
Is the rest of it your trips to Europe? Are you going to listen to this latest dire warning or keep doing what you do? Think of the polar ice davidallen. Have you no decency?
It all sounds good until you have to start giving up shit.
How many acres does it take to feed Gore?
How many acres does it take to feed Gore?
Couple of technical points:
- "He says that 25 years ago we were given maybe 10 years until Mother Earth destroys us all." - not at all correct. The work cited says the window of opportunity for addressing without irreversible harm would close in a decade or two.
- "he doesn’t really believe what he’s saying" - as a Libertarian do you live your beliefs everyday? To what extent do you conform to the mores of the society around you in opposition to something you believe? Did you pay your property taxes this year?
The fact is I buy into the scientific indications that our climate is changing - that we are experiencing a profound and sustained upswing of temperature. I find the debate about relative human contribution to be laughable because on the one hand our continued habitation of portions of this planet are at risk should the trends continue regardless of our contribution and on the other we can only address what we contribute marginal or not. Establishing that I believe the basic premise the obvious question is what have I done about it.
To this point I have hung my hat on the need for systemic change to have any impact. That means, owning a Prius is nothing more than a feel good moment or as my man @MegaPoke would say "Virtue Signalling". Solar doesn't pencil out economically for us even with tax incentives, my approach then is "don't need solar". I have moved all my hobbyist compute workloads to cloud hosted services, but that was just an economic decision even though I did select a provider that is 100% renewable. Should I, could I do more? That is the question I am considering right now....
Probably, though have been thinking about selling it when my Arcimoto ships and going with a ZipCar subscription or renting from HomeDepot when I need to make a dump run.
The authors do tie these together.... see point 5 in the "What we must do section".
http://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default...orld Scientists' Warning to Humanity 1992.pdf
This forecast is ominous to say the least.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/18/2018-set-to-be-year-of-big-earthquakes
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/18/2018-set-to-be-year-of-big-earthquakes
Reminds me of the must see Keanu Reeves classic The Day The Earth Stood Still (2008).
How do I stop peeing and crapping before I die? And eating. I want to contribute to the cause. My body contributes to waste, just by living. Save me or the planet? I know what some will say.
This is absolutely the final word on the matter of riding bicycles instead of driving a car.
https://www.theonion.com/study-90-of-bike-accidents-preventable-by-buying-car-1820403123
https://www.theonion.com/study-90-of-bike-accidents-preventable-by-buying-car-1820403123
David, I congratulate you. You obviously feel strongly about this issue and are taking personal steps to do what you can to rectify the situation. It seems to me you are doing more than the author of the original essay.
He drives an F150 and loves trips to Europe. He acts like the problem is for the rest of us to solve, just like his Democratic mentors. When we shrug our shoulders in response, he gets sentimental. When we suggest he practices what he preaches we get retarded thoughts like riding horses to work from shysterkine in response.
Welcome to modern day leftists.
Generally, these things are only about solving problems to soft minded sentimentalists (aka useful idiots). To their commie overlords, it’s about abolishing individualism in favor of the collective.
Serious question...
What options did you go with? I've been a fan since I first saw it in 2012. I'm not committed to a purchase at this point but I'm getting more interested. My youngest turns 16 in 2 years, looking to give her my car and possibly buy one then.
Hard shell, heated seats, basic audio options, extended range....
Frohnmeyere (CEO) is someone I am friendly with. Let me know if you want an intro.
Serious question: what does in your opinion is the extend of an individuals responsibility here? Would you forgo 50% of your income potential to not travel the planet? 25%? How much do you think a "true believer" should sacrifice to be credible?
As to my "loving trips to Europe" - I enjoy my work and consider the travel a cost of doing business. Having made friends around the planet, I enjoy their company. The travel, in and of itself, is a major pain in the ass.
I love to fill my CTS sports package up with premium gas without ethanol and drive out to I nice lonely stretch of straight road and tromp it just hear the engine roar and fill the power as I go through the gears on my way to 100+. Not once was I worried about the environment, just the OHP.
Al Gore told me the apocalypse would be here by now, I think I'm going to miss it, whoever is left once I'm gone can deal with it.
Al Gore told me the apocalypse would be here by now, I think I'm going to miss it, whoever is left once I'm gone can deal with it.
