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I talked to the 2 ladies who fought the Oklahoma marriage law and won. I asked them this very question. One is an editor and she said that it is difficult for her to use improper grammar. That using a pronoun that way just felt strange to say. But that she'd have to just get over it.

I'm kind of in that same boat.

My daughter's future college room mate is apparently a trans-gendered person. When we meet during the move in, I'll just ask how they preferred to be called. No worries.
The gals who fought to get married or the ones that fought for a divorce?
 
According to the U.K. Daily Mail, Portland residents Biff Chaplow and his transgender partner, Trystan Reese, are expecting their second child after miscarrying their first in 2016. The couple announced the news on a podcast as part of a series entitled “Accidental Gay Parents” on The Longest Shortest Time website.

In discussing their news on the podcast, Reese talked about how surprising it was to get pregnant not long after a previous miscarriage.

“I randomly grabbed one of the pee tests and they came back positive and I was like ‘oh my God, this is actually happening again,'” Reece said.

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Chaplow and Reese — who are expecting a boy in July — are married and already parents to two children they adopted previously in 2015.

Despite the fact that Reese continues to make strides toward becoming a man, Women’s Health Magazine reported that she had stopped taking her testosterone supplements in an effort to attempt another pregnancy.

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Learning the baby is a boy has become a bit of a joke for them.

“Our baby has been diagnosed male,” Reese said. “That’s my own little joke in our family — diagnosis: male.”
 
Simple solution, use the historically used pronouns. If you are unsure, ask them how they'd like to be referred to.

Treat people how they'd like to be treated.

I talked to the 2 ladies who fought the Oklahoma marriage law and won. I asked them this very question. One is an editor and she said that it is difficult for her to use improper grammar. That using a pronoun that way just felt strange to say. But that she'd have to just get over it.

I'm kind of in that same boat.

My daughter's future college room mate is apparently a trans-gendered person. When we meet during the move in, I'll just ask how they preferred to be called. No worries.

Kudos, sir.

This is where I am at with all the teens running around my house with my daughters.

I just really don't get the refusal to address someone however in the hell they prefer to be addressed.
 
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Kudos, sir.

This is where I am at with all the teens running around my house with my daughters.

I just really don't get the refusal to address someone however in the hell they prefer to be addressed.

On an individual basis I can't imagine what kind of asshole wouldn't. But subverting the english language in general and adding whole new layers for self identifying groups to take offense is a different thing than a guest in our home expressing a specific preference right?
 
On an individual basis I can't imagine what kind of asshole wouldn't. But subverting the english language in general and adding whole new layers for self identifying groups to take offense is a different thing than a guest in our home expressing a specific preference right?

Not really, no.

I don't view it as "subverting the English language in general". The English language has always been fluid and changing and usage changed by individual self expression.

I'm all for whole new layers for self indentifying groups to self identify. If, as I said, I'll call them whatever the eff they want....offense problem solved.

Where you see grand conspiracies by globalists or some such to subvert our language, I see people just trying to make sense of the world they live in. The English language will be fine. The Republic will survive. This is just another fake news controversy to divide us and set us against each other.
 
Get rid of auto-correct on cell phones would be a good starting point...if we're talking about improper English language usage. That and learning the difference between the 3 there's (they're and their) and 3 to's (two and too)...and "an/and".

Proof reading should be a thriving profession.
 
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Not really, no.

I don't view it as "subverting the English language in general". The English language has always been fluid and changing and usage changed by individual self expression.

I'm all for whole new layers for self indentifying groups to self identify. If, as I said, I'll call them whatever the eff they want....offense problem solved.

Where you see grand conspiracies by globalists or some such to subvert our language, I see people just trying to make sense of the world they live in. The English language will be fine. The Republic will survive. This is just another fake news controversy to divide us and set us against each other.

Here's how a simple guy like me sees it. People are people. Treat everybody like people. Treat everybody equally. No special treatment for anybody, including "they". But that's just me.

You and a few other people here have helped me change my mind on a few things over the years. But I'm pretty well dug in on this one.
 
Not really, no.

I don't view it as "subverting the English language in general". The English language has always been fluid and changing and usage changed by individual self expression.

I'm all for whole new layers for self indentifying groups to self identify. If, as I said, I'll call them whatever the eff they want....offense problem solved.

Where you see grand conspiracies by globalists or some such to subvert our language, I see people just trying to make sense of the world they live in. The English language will be fine. The Republic will survive. This is just another fake news controversy to divide us and set us against each other.

I agree with you in principle but you are a lot more optimistic than me about the altruism of the pronoun stuff, which hopefully is just me being paranoid and you are right about the future of the republic.

Are you familiar with professor Jordan Peterson? He is really brilliant and interesting. Not a big political guy but more of a philosophy guy. His experience with the pronoun stuff shows that good intentions about being kind to your fellow man are easily subverted as a tool of punishment and control.

Interesting read and so is any interview with him.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37875695
 
I think most people want to be called by their preferred name and most people want to call somebody by their preferred name. But I do beleive that some people just want to feel victimized and someone accidently using or forgetting to use a preferred name or prounoun becomes an excuse for some to play the victim.

I have a personal experience like this that I doubt is unique. I have a family member that is transgender (born male and now identifies as female). This is a person I was never close and may see at most once per year. She only recently decided to identify as female and has already change her name twice. She was at my house over Christmas at a large family gathering. Someone made the mistake of calling this individual by the male birth name. When she starting throwing a fit (yes, a mid-20s person did this), I stepped in. I couldn't remember her new name and asked what was the name she preferred to be called. You would have thought I spit on her by the reaction I received from her.
Needless to say, my wife and I agreed she would not be invited back to our house. And it has nothing to do with being transgender. It has everything to do with attitude and needing to feel like a victim.
 
I agree with you too Cable.

I'm going to do my best to treat people how they'd prefer to be treated and refer to them how they prefer to be referred. What I'm not going to do it tiptoe through a mind field of someone being overly sensitive and looking to be offended.

In return for my consideration, I expect some reciprocity. They should also be understanding that I'm not going to be perfect and treat me with the respect I intend for them. If they infer some unintended offense, that's on them.

But I'm not going to let that overly sensitive a-hole dictate how I treat others who are more willing to be civil.
 
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"They" is inproper grammar when used to refer to a single person. I refuse to use improper grammar and I find it quite amusing that the liberals insist that I do so.

While on the topic of science, 20% of gay men have HIV. Yet liberal orthodoxy insists that the the gay lifestyle is "healthy" and "normal." It is neither.

Most behaviors that been heavily promoted and glamorized by the left over the last 15 years have terrible effects on an individual's health and wellbeing.


- Homosexuality (far higher rates of diseases)

- Transgenderism (extremely high rates of attempted suicides and mental illness)

- Lesbianism (some of society's highest domestic violence rates are in lesbian couples)

- Promiscuity (STD rates are skyrocketing, including throat cancer in men from HPV)

- Gangster rap (glamorizing dangerous behaviors that lower an individual's chance of employment and a healthy lifestyle)
 
Some body help me! I was tricked into becoming a lesbian by the lame stream media, and now my wife beats me! This is not nearly as glamorous as I was promised!
 
Most behaviors that been heavily promoted and glamorized by the left over the last 15 years have terrible effects on an individual's health and wellbeing.


- Homosexuality (far higher rates of diseases)

- Transgenderism (extremely high rates of attempted suicides and mental illness)

- Lesbianism (some of society's highest domestic violence rates are in lesbian couples)

- Promiscuity (STD rates are skyrocketing, including throat cancer in men from HPV)

- Gangster rap (glamorizing dangerous behaviors that lower an individual's chance of employment and a healthy lifestyle)

Surely you are not a real person.
 
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Surely you are not a real person.
The gang culture is certainly destructive. But he has it quite wrong. The gang culture inspired gangster rap, not the other way around. Gangbanging was well established before Ice T sang about "Colors."

Can't speak to the rest of his post but I don't see evidence of it in my field. I see much more suicide from straight white folks than I do any other population.
 
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In 1968 I would have never imagined people in 2017 would not be able to tell if they were boys or girls. What have we become?
 
I agree with you in principle but you are a lot more optimistic than me about the altruism of the pronoun stuff, which hopefully is just me being paranoid and you are right about the future of the republic.

Are you familiar with professor Jordan Peterson? He is really brilliant and interesting. Not a big political guy but more of a philosophy guy. His experience with the pronoun stuff shows that good intentions about being kind to your fellow man are easily subverted as a tool of punishment and control.

Interesting read and so is any interview with him.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37875695

I have listened to several podcasts where he was the guest....including The JRE.

IMO, the ivory towers of academia are this weird little insular subset of society where everybody involved on both sides desperately want the stakes to appear to be much higher than they really are. Basically they are getting each other off...mutual mental masturbation. In the end, none of that really affects how I live my life. It's not the real world.

It is far from a existential dilemma IMO.
 
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I agree with you too Cable.

I'm going to do my best to treat people how they'd prefer to be treated and refer to them how they prefer to be referred. What I'm not going to do it tiptoe through a mind field of someone being overly sensitive and looking to be offended.

In return for my consideration, I expect some reciprocity. They should also be understanding that I'm not going to be perfect and treat me with the respect I intend for them. If they infer some unintended offense, that's on them.

But I'm not going to let that overly sensitive a-hole dictate how I treat others who are more willing to be civil.

This.

I will address you how you want to be addressed, but I won't hesitate to tell a snowflake to eff off and calm the hell down while we figure it out.
 
Most behaviors that been heavily promoted and glamorized by the left over the last 15 years have terrible effects on an individual's health and wellbeing.


- Homosexuality (far higher rates of diseases)

- Transgenderism (extremely high rates of attempted suicides and mental illness)

- Lesbianism (some of society's highest domestic violence rates are in lesbian couples)

- Promiscuity (STD rates are skyrocketing, including throat cancer in men from HPV)

- Gangster rap (glamorizing dangerous behaviors that lower an individual's chance of employment and a healthy lifestyle)

Oh lord....it's like a parody account.

Do you do ANY free thinking?

Or do your completely parrot the red pill party//pol//peacocking pick-up bro game party line?

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No need to answer.

It's abundantly clear....and more than a little embarrassing for you.
 
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Gender isn't binary even on a chromosomal level.

They discovered a 3rd sex organ?

A 4th?

A 63rd?

Damn.

Do they copulate like the other 97.55 to 98.5% of the pooulation?

How will Affirmative Action adjust?
 
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