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[WCPoke]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...cle_247ee95c-d154-5861-9714-b74761c89fef.html

Apparently "they" is a transmasculine genderqueer. Gone are the simple days of heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual.

 

[MegaPoke]

 

[wyomingosualum]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...cle_247ee95c-d154-5861-9714-b74761c89fef.html

Apparently "they" is a transmasculine genderqueer. Gone are the simple days of heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual.

Have we reached the pinnacle of stupidity yet? Or do we have more climbing yet?

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Have we reached the pinnacle of stupidity yet? Or do we have more climbing yet?

Unfortunately, I fear the current depth of stupidity has no bounds.

 

[squeak]

Everyone has problems. Some good problems, like deciding what nice restaurant to eat at tonight. Some have bad problems, like figuring out how they are going to feed their children tonight. The importance each person placed on their problems are the same. Some people with few problems create problems, like saying the LSU tiger is racist. So many people today have it so good that they can't help but find some bullshit cause to bury themselves in. People with bad problems, however, ain't got time for that.

 

[davidallen]

Everyone has problems. Some good problems, like deciding what nice restaurant to eat at tonight. Some have bad problems, like figuring out how they are going to feed their children tonight. The importance each person placed on their problems are the same. Some people with few problems create problems, like saying the LSU tiger is racist. So many people today have it so good that they can't help but find some bullshit cause to bury themselves in. People with bad problems, however, ain't got time for that.

Agreed. If by adopting a gender neutral pronoun I can help someone struggling with gender identity, likely the big problem in their life, I gladly will.

 

[JohnVoight]

Democrats were formerly the party of science which I greatly respected. Now because of identity politics, Islam is a religion to be revered and chromosomes are to be balanced with gender studies dogma. In the words of Dan Auerbach, Strange Times.

 

[squeak]

Agreed. If by adopting a gender neutral pronoun I can help someone struggling with gender identity, likely the big problem in their life, I gladly will.

That's fine, but no one should be offended if I don't know to call that someone "they."

 

[07pilt]

Extremely smart guy: "science and biology have much to say on the subject of gender"

 

[ThorOdinson13]

If people want to exacerbate mental health issues, more power to them I guess. But don't expect that your decision to do so should be compulsory for everyone else just because you think you're doing the "right thing." Oh, and quit trying to claim the moral high ground as well. You don't have it.

 

[davidallen]

That's fine, but no one should be offended if I don't know to call that someone "they."

Not that hard to just use "they" instead of "he" or "she". But to your point, no expectation that some old fart does so.

 

[davidallen]

If people want to exacerbate mental health issues, more power to them I guess. But don't expect that your decision to do so should be compulsory for everyone else just because you think you're doing the "right thing." Oh, and quit trying to claim the moral high ground as well. You don't have it.

So you are qualified on this subject - you know best how to "fix" people with gender identity issues? Damn son, who knew... You and Santorum should open a clinic or something....

If I have the high ground here it is because you are standing in a hole.

 

[07pilt]

Statistically more significant : nazis or theys?

 

[MegaPoke]

Agreed. If by adopting a gender neutral pronoun I can help someone struggling with gender identity, likely the big problem in their life, I gladly will.

Said David to literally nobody's surprise.

 

[davidallen]

Said David to literally nobody's surprise.

Pretty consistent on these issues. The fascination of conservatives on issues of sexual orientation is a constant. Why the need to project your view of sexuality on all of society?

Conservatives: "Liberty for all" with fine print "so long as you conform to my definition of normal".

 

[07pilt]

David, you dumb ass you fool, why would you be consistent enough to have a predictable position on gender?

 

[07pilt]

The most important liberty is to say whatever you want without anyone disagreeing with you or thinking you are an asshole

 

[ThorOdinson13]

So you are qualified on this subject - you know best how to "fix" people with gender identity issues? Damn son, who knew... You and Santorum should open a clinic or something....

If I have the high ground here it is because you are standing in a hole.

Did I say anything about fixing them? All I said is I won't be party to exacerbating their mental health issues. Do you play along with a schizophrenic's delusions? Does not doing so mean you're an authority on "fixing" them? Does not feeding into their delusions put you in a hole?

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Pretty consistent on these issues. The fascination of conservatives on issues of sexual orientation is a constant. Why the need to project your view of sexuality on all of society?

Conservatives: "Liberty for all" with fine print "so long as you conform to my definition of normal".

I don't imagine anyone in this thread gives a shit about who someone sleeps with consensually. I also don't imagine most care if two men or women want to be married.

Just don't come spewing that pseudo-science gender bullshit, cramming it down everyone's throat, and trying to claim the moral high ground in making it a "human rights" issue. It's not. It's a mental health issue.

 

[MegaPoke]

Pretty consistent on these issues. The fascination of conservatives on issues of sexual orientation is a constant. Why the need to project your view of sexuality on all of society?

Conservatives: "Liberty for all" with fine print "so long as you conform to my definition of normal".

Would love to hear you explain my view of sexuality and what is normal. Go on.

 

[MegaPoke]

David, you dumb ass you fool, why would you be consistent enough to have a predictable position on gender?

David Allen likes this.

 

[MegaPoke]

The most important liberty is to say whatever you want without anyone disagreeing with you or thinking you are an asshole

 

[wino]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...cle_247ee95c-d154-5861-9714-b74761c89fef.html

Apparently "they" is a transmasculine genderqueer. Gone are the simple days of heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual.

Guess you didn't catch Season 2 of Billions?

 

[davidallen]

Would love to hear you explain my view of sexuality and what is normal. Go on.

Ha! We all know you are a rock n roll freak.... Wrong pronoun- referring to "conservatives" should have used their...

 

[davidallen]

It's a mental health issue.

Amazing. Had no idea you had settled the science. Quite the Renaissance Man.

In any case, even if it is a mental health issue, akin to those who hear voices for instance, I think we have room for some empathy/compassion as people work through their issues.

Your continued reference to the "moral high ground" seems defensive. You entirely comfortable with your position on this?

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Entirely. And it's pretty well documented. Before the pseudo-science era we live in today if one identified as, say a werewolf (lycanthropy), they were mentally unstable and needed treatment. Today, not the case. We should all accept one who identifies as a dragon or thinks she is really a man eventhough she has two X chromosomes.

And your snide remarks only prove my point regarding the moral high ground. Your facetious and condescending statements are all that's needed. The left is absuredly more anti-science than the religious right.

 

[davidallen]

Entirely. And it's pretty well documented....The left is absuredly more anti-science than the religious right.

Two asks - share some of this documentation and please point to any anti-science comment I have ever made. Much appreciated.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Two asks - share some of this documentation and please point to any anti-science comment I have ever made. Much appreciated.

So you epitomize the left now? Nice. You want examples of anti-science leftism huh?

The real war on science

 

[AC_Exotic]

Did I say anything about fixing them? All I said is I won't be party to exacerbating their mental health issues. Do you play along with a schizophrenic's delusions? Does not doing so mean you're an authority on "fixing" them? Does not feeding into their delusions put you in a hole?

I would say the same thing about homosexuality. Politics forced the change in definition, just as is currently becoming the case with transgenderism.

 

[BIGOSUFAN]

"They" is inproper grammar when used to refer to a single person. I refuse to use improper grammar and I find it quite amusing that the liberals insist that I do so.

While on the topic of science, 20% of gay men have HIV. Yet liberal orthodoxy insists that the the gay lifestyle is "healthy" and "normal." It is neither.

 

[Medic007]

This genderqueer group wants me to get it, to understand. How am I supposed to understand something they don't even have figured out? You're not a male or a female, but you're masculine enough to not be feminine except when you feel feminine? I think "they" fits these multiple personality people quite well. I'll gladly use it.

 

[Been Jammin]

Entirely. And it's pretty well documented. Before the pseudo-science era we live in today if one identified as, say a werewolf (lycanthropy), they were mentally unstable and needed treatment.

Kind of like how people in the 1300's were considered insane if they insisted that the world was round rather than flat? Sometimes things that are "pretty well documented" turn out to be wrong.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Kind of like how people in the 1300's were considered insane if they insisted that the world was round rather than flat? Sometimes things that are "pretty well documented" turn out to be wrong.

When new chromosomes are discovered come find me

 

[Ostatedchi]

Simple solution, use the historically used pronouns. If you are unsure, ask them how they'd like to be referred to.

Treat people how they'd like to be treated.

 

[wino]

inproper grammar

I refuse to use improper grammar

 

[Ostatedchi]

I talked to the 2 ladies who fought the Oklahoma marriage law and won. I asked them this very question. One is an editor and she said that it is difficult for her to use improper grammar. That using a pronoun that way just felt strange to say. But that she'd have to just get over it.

I'm kind of in that same boat.

My daughter's future college room mate is apparently a trans-gendered person. When we meet during the move in, I'll just ask how they preferred to be called. No worries.

 

[imprimis]

The most important liberty is to say whatever you want without anyone disagreeing with you or thinking you are an asshole

A liberty no one has.

 

[HighStickHarry]

I talked to the 2 ladies who fought the Oklahoma marriage law and won. I asked them this very question. One is an editor and she said that it is difficult for her to use improper grammar. That using a pronoun that way just felt strange to say. But that she'd have to just get over it.

I'm kind of in that same boat.

My daughter's future college room mate is apparently a trans-gendered person. When we meet during the move in, I'll just ask how they preferred to be called. No worries.

I would like an update on this at the end of the year. Sounds like a good case study.

 

[wyomingosualum]

Typos don't count. But still a good catch!

 

[Ostatedchi]

I would like an update on this at the end of the year. Sounds like a good case study.

I'll let you know how it works out.