July 7, 2016 at 3:55 p.m.
I never heard you rip that war before Biff did. I got ripped plenty though for ripping it. Now you were against it all along though?
There is no threshold of violence in which liberals will support action
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July 7, 2016 at 3:55 p.m.
I never heard you rip that war before Biff did. I got ripped plenty though for ripping it. Now you were against it all along though?
There are plenty here who know I ripped it dating well back to the Bush admin and you should know that. Yes, I was for it in the wmd days as was the vast majority of people. I was wrong and my position evolved.
This is a stupid limb you've climbed out on.
I've been swinging from this limb for YEARS. You're so cute, with your revisionist history. So now you ripped it during the Bush admin? I'm not saying you're sitting on a throne of lies, but... damn dude.
I just searched. Posts with you and "iraq" only go back about 3 years. That's all the time I'm willing to invest, but if you can dust off an old post of yours I'm all ears.
Edit: I was wearing your ass out 3 years ago over it and you didn't say this, though.
No you are the guy calling me a liar. It's up to you to prove it or STFU.
Regardless, 3 years sufficiently predates Trump for you to admit you are wrong.
I've spoken on this board against the Iraq war dating at least back to Obama's withdrawal because it was the one thing that made a stupid war even more pointless.
Do better research and quit lying.
Do better research and quit lying.
I never heard you criticize Dumbya's Iraq invasion one iota before Biff did. I did a search and found nothing. Well, you ripped Obama, but not Bush that I can find. All I can see is you ciriticizing obama, which is kind of hard to believe someone that felt the initial invasion was built on lies would rip Obama, who was trying to get us out. But okay..... I'm open minded. If you have some old post, lay it on me. You're a mod. Surely you have that ability. I can definitely see where you were blaming Obama, odd there's nothing where you said something negative about the guy that actually started it, huh?
Incidentally, how long did it take you to realize that Bush and Cheney lied to start a war? During their second admin?
Incidentally, how long did it take you to realize that Bush and Cheney lied to start a war? During their second admin?
You have to take this in sections of the world. I’ll do my best to summarize, but it’s a 10 page paper I’m trying to fit into this as an answer. The Western Block of Europe will turn to Russia to back a no refugee policy. This is potentially dangerous as it could indicate a return to a Soviet controlled block. At the very least is strengthens Russia’s dominance in that region once again, and the progress gained in this region of the world since the fall of Western Europe will begin to erode to the point of possibly being extinguished. Eastern Europe as well or what was previously NATO European countries are facing a potential crisis. They have maximized any capacity to take on refugees, and if another crisis unfolds sometime soon they could have a very volatile situation on their hands. It is already at a boiling point, and terror related attacks are increasing in volume. If a country like Turkey implodes, then all hell will break loose in Europe. It almost did with the last coup attempt. Turkey will see another coup attempt if they stay the course they are on now. Africa will continue to turn Islamic and you will see the spread of Islam and support for Sharia law as far south as South Africa, were you could start to see the beginnings of civil conflict between what is left of western civilization there and Islamic extremists. Asia will see a strengthening of Islamic ties, and the country to keep an eye on there would be the Philippines. China and Japan can keep Islam at bay as they are not handicapped by multiculturalism. Russian will continue to be attacked especially on its Southern boarders, and will be in a constant battle with extremists in that region. I haven’t touched the Americas yet, but Canada is rethinking its open border strategy right now. They have had their own issues similar to Europe 5 years ago. If they maintain their course they will start to look like England today in five years, Australia the same. So the US is the wild card. The election of Trump gives the US a chance to avert a tipping of the scales, but the damage may have already been done. Another influx of refugees will only give confidence to extremists that are already here, and are prepared to make attacks. If refugees keep coming in then attacks will increase here as well. If the spigot is turned off those that are here already will bide their time, and explore a longer plan. After all in 4 to eight years the spigot will get turned on again. The last administration saw a dramatic increase in attacks on the homeland. Though smaller in scale terrorists were able to carry out successful attacks in the United States proving that they can be accomplished. I Expect a widening of terroristic attacks in the US as the targets get more selective. Soft targets will continue to be exploited.
My nightmare is that the ultimate soft targets will get hit. Our elementary schools are extremely vulnerable.
I tried to summarize my current thoughts. Keep in mind this is a quick summary. My thoughts on this are always changing based on new open source information. Thanks for the thoughtful question, and I hope you enjoyed my answer to it. See my other post in this thread as to what I think needs to happen to change the current landscape. Overall summary is the world is in for an attempt to increase the intensity of the terroristic attacks. It will get worse before it gets better.
I definitely appreciate the effort and thought and your post, it is appreciated. Your thoughts confirm what I feel, things look pretty bleak right now and this is a complicated issue. The sooner we realize what is at stake the better we will be.
You have a poor or biased (or both) memory.
I specifically remember Mega criticizing the war before I was willing to, and that was certainly during Obama's first term.
This aged well. While Harry was posting about liberal violence, another (again) right winger was figuring out how to detonate a bomb in downtown OKC. Again.
The guy wanting to overthrow the government and a member of the III% treehouse gang is a liberal now. Right. This is how it happens -- just state 180 degree false statement and see what simpleton will go along with it. Another right wing simpleton is probably reading Cernovich tweets blaming dems for the attempted bombing now and shopping for ammonium nitrate.
How does this relate to your (Dems) perceived inability to acknowledge the inherent violence and illiberalism of fringe Islam, which is what I see the opening post is regarding?
Are you assigning violence motivation to a political leaning but aren't able to do the same for a religion or the culture surrounding the religion?
Oh, I acknowledge it. I can't understand why dems say they're so pro-woman and then don't say anything about it. I understand it I guess, I just disagree with it.
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