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The real reason behind the Government Shutdown?

Yeah, probably too technical for riffing on reflection.

Let's replace that with teenagers sang the refrain "we are the world, we are the children."
much better, but I have to point out the Nirvana music video shot in a high school gym wasn't for "smells like child spirit"
 
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Sure. But who has more life experience? A 64 year old veteran or a 16-17 year old high schooler?

Sure one has more life experience. That doesn’t mean the teens get a “kids will be kids” complete absolution for their behavior though, IMO. DChi and I have already had this discussion.
 
Sure one has more life experience. That doesn’t mean the teens get a “kids will be kids” complete absolution for their behavior though, IMO. DChi and I have already had this discussion.
I didn't give a "kids will be kids" absolution. I'm saying the 64 year old adult knew exactly what he was doing when he walked up to the group of teens. The man is a known political activist, not some guy who wandered off from the nursing home.

If the stationary group of teens waiting for their bus was actually in the way of his march, the 64 year old adult thing to do is walk around the group of teens. Had he done that and the teens moved into his path, I'd completely agree with you.
 
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much better, but I have to point out the Nirvana music video shot in a high school gym wasn't for "smells like child spirit"
This is interesting. The Oklahoma Child Welfare Department will take your teenager from you if you're abusive. And people pay child support for teenagers.
 
Children's menu is designated for persons under 13 at most restaurants.
 
The Children's Hour is a 1934 play about a 14 year old bully named Mary Tilford.
 
Do any of you really think a wall will stop illegal immigration? It seems pure folly and a waste of money! Forget the whole United States of America as that shining example of freedom and possibilities example a lot of people still respect and thus reject what a wall symbolizes. He may need to morph the message from a wall to border security to see reality and better chances at success campaign pledge or not! Do so without spending money on a meaningless ineffective symbol of hubris and campaign rhetoric.

Better to reword the whole request to “Border Security” and add manpower over the entire length of the border using the money for an ineffective wall they will simply go over, around, and under like they already have to date where they exist.

Hell, deploy more national guard troops on 24 hour shifts all along the border as a more effective deterrent. At least some soldiers will pull duty at home and divide the funding between Homeland Security and military budgets.

If a wall would save just one life in this country, it would be worth it.
 
If a wall would save just one life in this country, it would be worth it.

Just about everyone in this country excluding Native Americans come from immigrants! We need better border security but a wall won’t do it!

We need a pathway to citizenship for those who come legally and work through the process and we need enforcement for those entering illegally!

A wall won’t stop the flow of illegals but more manpower will and that is where the most money should be spent rather than a monument to stupidity like a 5 Billion dollar wall they’ll tunnel under!
 
Such BS, why does everything always come down to the children? And if that is the over ridding factor than why do all the libs bitch and moan when they take children away from adults, at the border, until they can prove that the adult is actually a parent and not a sexual predator? Better yet what about all the children that are murdered in the womb?

I heard the same thing today from reporters purportedly talking to federal employees that are having a hard time feeding their children now that they aren't getting paid.

Of course when an illegal kills a family in a car crash while driving fdrunk, never makes the headlines. Or how about the girl in Iowa last summer who was murdered by the illegal, or the 4 elderly people in NV that were murdered by an illegal.

I say keep the whole show shut down until they can come to an amiable agreement that makes everyone give up something significant to accomplish something relevant. Until then, let them keep whining. Its stories like this that try to make Trump/supporters look like they are heartless reprobates to further drive the liberal notation he is an illegitimate president.

To the vast majority of those who can't feed their kids because of the shutdown....save some freakin money for emergencies like this.

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Just about everyone in this country excluding Native Americans come from immigrants! We need better border security but a wall won’t do it!

We need a pathway to citizenship for those who come legally and work through the process and we need enforcement for those entering illegally!

A wall won’t stop the flow of illegals but more manpower will and that is where the most money should be spent rather than a monument to stupidity like a 5 Billion dollar wall they’ll tunnel under!
What are your views on gun control?
 
What are your views on gun control?

Just need better background checks at purchase especially at places that are wide open now, gun shows and private sale. None allowed by law for mentally ill or felons as it exists now. Common sense changes imo.
 
Sure one has more life experience. That doesn’t mean the teens get a “kids will be kids” complete absolution for their behavior though, IMO. DChi and I have already had this discussion.

Teenagers mostly suck at acting like responsible humans. They are ignorant and awkward. That’s why adults should act like adults around them.

I work with teenagers all the time and expecting 15-17 year olds to act like anything but morons unless you use your coach voice is pretty optimistic.
 
Just need better background checks at purchase especially at places that are wide open now, gun shows and private sale. None allowed by law for mentally ill or felons as it exists now. Common sense changes imo.
And how exactly are you going to regulate the private sale of guns?
 
Just need better background checks at purchase especially at places that are wide open now, gun shows and private sale. None allowed by law for mentally ill or felons as it exists now. Common sense changes imo.
Trump is just asking for common sense changes with a wall.
 
I didn't give a "kids will be kids" absolution. I'm saying the 64 year old adult knew exactly what he was doing when he walked up to the group of teens. The man is a known political activist, not some guy who wandered off from the nursing home.

If the stationary group of teens waiting for their bus was actually in the way of his march, the 64 year old adult thing to do is walk around the group of teens. Had he done that and the teens moved into his path, I'd completely agree with you.

Sounds a lot like an absolution for what they dis to me.
 
Sounds a lot like an absolution for what they dis to me.
Because I expect more of a 64 year old man than I do a group of teenagers that the 64 year old man purposely initiated contact with? Yeah, makes perfect sense.
 
Because I expect more of a 64 year old man than I do a group of teenagers that the 64 year old man purposely initiated contact with? Yeah, makes perfect sense.

No, because you give them a pass for what they did once he walked up to them.

Listen to what you are saying.....he knew what he was doing when he (oh my God! Such an affront!)...walked up to a group of kids....sounds a lot like he got what he deserved.

He knew what he was doing....the kids couldn’t help themselves....kids will be kids...:rolleyes:
 
If a wall would save just one life in this country, it would be worth it.

Sounds exactly like a gun control argument.

If banning guns saves just one life....

It’s a logical fallacy there....and here.
 
Sounds exactly like a gun control argument.

If banning guns saves just one life....

It’s a logical fallacy there....and here.
Come on JD... you are generally good at catching sarcasm and mocking - as poke2001 obviously was.

If you are mocking him in rebuttal and I missed it... well done.
 
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No, because you give them a pass for what they did once he walked up to them.

Listen to what you are saying.....he knew what he was doing when he (oh my God! Such an affront!)...walked up to a group of kids....sounds a lot like he got what he deserved.

He knew what he was doing....the kids couldn’t help themselves....kids will be kids...:rolleyes:
Uh, no, that's not what I said. At all. Maybe you should read it again without changing what I actually wrote into what you wanted me to write to confirm yourself.
 
Just about everyone in this country excluding Native Americans come from immigrants! We need better border security but a wall won’t do it!

We need a pathway to citizenship for those who come legally and work through the process and we need enforcement for those entering illegally!

A wall won’t stop the flow of illegals but more manpower will and that is where the most money should be spent rather than a monument to stupidity like a 5 Billion dollar wall they’ll tunnel under!
Those who come here legally have a built in pathway to citizenship. Those who are illegal have broken the law to be here and need to get in the legal line first.

Walls and fences work. That's why they are in countries around the world, built around people's houses, built around entire communities, built around prisons, fence multiple houses in most neighborhoods, and countless other uses to deny access or prevent people from moving from one side to the other. Are they infallible? No, very little is.
 
Those who come here legally have a built in pathway to citizenship. Those who are illegal have broken the law to be here and need to get in the legal line first.

Walls and fences work. That's why they are in countries around the world, built around people's houses, built around entire communities, built around prisons, fence multiple houses in most neighborhoods, and countless other uses to deny access or prevent people from moving from one side to the other. Are they infallible? No, very little is.
Stop it with the reality stuff.
 
Uh, no, that's not what I said. At all. Maybe you should read it again without changing what I actually wrote into what you wanted me to write to confirm yourself.

Read it again. Still sounds like you’re giving the kids a pass for their conduct in the whole thing because Phillips knew what he was getting into.

If you’re not, good on ya.
 
Read it again. Still sounds like you’re giving the kids a pass for their conduct in the whole thing because Phillips knew what he was getting into.

If you’re not, good on ya.
Yeah, still no. We were discussing expectations of age groups. I made a post about what I would expect a group of adults to do in that situation. I've made no statements about anyone being to blame or if they're deserving of anything. I didn't even address what I expected the teens to do.

I would expect a 44 year old man to not think it's hilarious to bang on the doors of rooms in a seedy motel at 1 a.m. while yelling "DEA." When there happens to be actual drug dealers in one of the rooms who come out and beat him nearly to death, I would expect that to have been a possible consequence. I'd blame both for their respective behaviors.

Is the 44 year old deserving of the beating? No. Did he open himself up to getting beat up because of his behavior? Yes. Are the drug dealers off the hook because he was an idiot? No. Would I expect a beatdown as a possible response from a group of drug dealers? Yes.

If you still don't see it, that's cool.
 
Yeah, still no. We were discussing expectations of age groups. I made a post about what I would expect a group of adults to do in that situation. I've made no statements about anyone being to blame or if they're deserving of anything. I didn't even address what I expected the teens to do.

I would expect a 44 year old man to not think it's hilarious to bang on the doors of rooms in a seedy motel at 1 a.m. while yelling "DEA." When there happens to be actual drug dealers in one of the rooms who come out and beat him nearly to death, I would expect that to have been a possible consequence. I'd blame both for their respective behaviors.

Is the 44 year old deserving of the beating? No. Did he open himself up to getting beat up because of his behavior? Yes. Are the drug dealers off the hook because he was an idiot? No. Would I expect a beatdown as a possible response from a group of drug dealers? Yes.

If you still don't see it, that's cool.

Like I said...if you’re not giving the teens in this matter a pass for their behavior due to their age....good on ya.
 
Like I said...if you’re not giving the teens in this matter a pass for their behavior due to their age....good on ya.
You're the one that retyped my initial post to fit your version of what I thought/typed. My initial post is still there. Not something you normally do, but meh, it is what it is I guess. I'm just clarifying that your words are your words, not mine.
 
You're the one that retyped my initial post to fit your version of what I thought/typed. My initial post is still there. Not something you normally do, but meh, it is what it is I guess.

I said what it sounded like to me.

You disclaimed that is what you meant.

I accepted your disclaimer and said good on ya.

I don’t understand what the problem is here.

We all good, brother.
 
I said what it sounded like to me.

You disclaimed that is what you meant.

I accepted your disclaimer and said good on ya.

I don’t understand what the problem is here.

We all good, brother.
I edited to include

I'm just clarifying that your words are your words, not mine.

Of course we all good. I always have love for the JD even when we disagree.
 
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Of course we all good. I always have love for the JD even when we disagree.

I don’t even think we’re disagreeing here.

I said what it sounded like to me.

You disclaimed that is what you meant.

I accepted the disclaimer/clarification.
 
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I don’t even think we’re disagreeing here.

I said what it sounded like to me.

You disclaimed that is what you meant.

I accepted the disclaimer/clarification.
The "disagree" part wasn't about this conversation, just in general.

Briefly on the subject of the teens just because...

I would expect them to keep their yappers shut and their eyes forward. They are there representing their school in a learning capacity. Act like it. Their interaction with the crazy Black Israelites is what caught people's attention to begin with. If a group comes up appearing to want confrontation of any type, ignore them or move. They aren't nearly wise enough to navigate the DC protest snake pit, so don't try. Too many people are there to get attention in any way they can and are skilled enough to sink the entire Pacific fleet with one torpedo.
 
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Interesting, minors can not legally enter in to a contract and if it can be proven an adult is intoxicated a contract under some circumstances can be voided. But yet in a public setting with cameras rolling, minors are now on equal footing with adults? Why then have chaperones?

Why do minors have to be certified as an adult to stand trial for murder?

Seems to me when it comes to contributory negligence that a minor’s contribution to said negligence would be far less legally than an adult.
 
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The "disagree" part wasn't about this conversation, just in general.

Briefly on the subject of the teens just because...

I would expect them to keep their yappers shut and their eyes forward. They are there representing their school in a learning capacity. Act like it. Their interaction with the crazy Black Israelites is what caught people's attention to begin with. If a group comes up appearing to want confrontation of any type, ignore them or move. They aren't nearly wise enough to navigate the DC protest snake pit, so don't try. Too many people are there to get attention in any way they can and are skilled enough to sink the entire Pacific fleet with one torpedo.

In what way is taunting Indigenous People’s Marchers representing the school in a “learning capacity”? Wouldn’t that be accomplished on a Friday by being in the classroom?

Just sayin’
 
In what way is taunting Indigenous People’s Marchers representing the school in a “learning capacity”? Wouldn’t that be accomplished on a Friday by being in the classroom?

Just sayin’
I would expect them to keep their yappers shut and their eyes forward. They are there representing their school in a learning capacity. Act like it.

I'm guessing you didn't read the post before applying your greasy dick beaters to the keyboard. Stop "just sayin" and use your 27 ACT brain occasionally.
 
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