Lots to do for a first year staff. I seriously doubt the focus was on exposing talent to the world.
The Case For Second
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Nelson at 174 over Kennedy? that's a slap in the face to PK. I don't see iowa placing at 174 nor Kueter at heavy
Kueter beat Feldman. Do you've Feldman placing again? Nelson is listed in the probables for this weekend. Kennedy can't beat AA type guys.
Heavy is going to be tough to call. Feldman is r12 low AA to me.
Didn't John Smith pull a similar move with Joe Smith.... Not exactly same circumstance, but ended up bumping another wrestler that had been at a lower weight most of the year?
Joe had a higher match count than Nelson does but Joe didn't wrestle until after the New Year. Chandler actually placed at NCAA twice at the weight and in consecutive years prior to being replaced. Joe didn't place that year he was R16 but Joe placed twice at 157 and took a RS the previous year.And if Nelson goes he will be replacing a guy who hasn't AA yet. And Nelson was 5th at 174 two years ago.
Yeah John absolutely hosed Chandler Rodgers out of a chance to AA only for Joe to go out and lay an absolute egg in the postseason because he was (allegedly) pulling too much beer weight and looked like crap.
Ya I remember specifically that Joe beat him for the spot. As much as we all disagree in hindsight.
Because of the match count, I think Joe drew Marinelli first round?
Chandler would’ve had a better route most likely.
I hate that we brought this up haha. Loved watching Chandler and hated when this happened. Loved watching Joe intermittently. Tale of two wrestlers with him haha
We all know that Joe beat Chandler in their ranking match but we also know that John has gone with wrestlers before that have lost ranking matches (I believe Johny Thompson and Johnny Hendricks fit that bill). We all loved to watch Chandler hook up his assassin but their is no guarantee that he would have done better than Joe although the odds are that he would have.
After saying all this, John really did nothing outside the common practices of a coach and in all honesty I cannot say that I wouldn't have chosen my son if I found myself in a similar situation.
This is why I hate that we brought it up, theres no right or wrong side it just sucks how it played out.
I don't believe that I had a sadder moment at a wrestling "match" than watching Chandler walk around in streets at the big twelve.
I remember the rumor at the time being that while Joe won the ranking match, they were not required to make and maintain weight before the wrestle off. It wasn’t talent that held Joe back, it was the amount of weight he cut and how he cut it.
Exactly a nice allowance was given. Those matches should all be scratch weight. We all know some can compete well 5 lbs over but on weight its totally different for some
Man how in the heck am I still getting this annoyed about something that happened forever ago lol
LOL
Ranking match right before B12s because one guy didn’t want to make weight all year… garbo
His choice obviously but that was an exception I’ve never seen otherwise
That was kind of the beginning of the “wtf” decision making for me. That fiasco, plus a rash of injuries, plus moving multiple guys around the lineup throughout the season, capped off with the Ferrari nonsense
This season has been a lot more fun to follow lol
