What is posted below came from another site (free), I am going to assume these are minutes.
What Holder said at the Faculty Council:
Holder stated that all the athletic facilities that are being built will be debt free. They will not use any institutional funds and will not borrow money. If they do not have the money available they will not break ground on the facility. Most of the money will be generated through fundraising.
Holder described the master plan for the Athletic Village. The money to buy the real estate north of Hall of Fame encompassed by Duck Street on the east up to Eskridge back down to Washington Street and Hall of Fame (with the exception of the Wes Watkins Center) was provided by Boone Pickens. The Athletic Department spent $45 or $50 million acquiring all this land. This started in 2006 and completed the land purchases in 2007 or 2008. Cleared the properties and let it sit for a few years due to financial problems in 2008. The Sherman Smith training center was the first complex to go in. There are two grass fields along with the building. The outdoor practice field is an artificial surface and the indoor is 94,000 square feet. There is a band practice field just south of the building with a different kind of artificial surface than the
practice field. This field was put in primarily for the band to practicebut can be used as a parking facility. It's not a full sized field, it's only 80 yards. All the money for this complex was donated by the Smith family - $20 million. Holder believes they spent a total of $21 million on the complex. The unique thing about the Smith building is the sides are aircraft hangar doors that are made out of fabric. The building is not heated or cooled. This is an advantage in the summer but not in the winter. Holder stated that the ground inside the building stays cool which is a 10 degree advantage in the summer but it stays cold longer in the winter. Holder stated the hangar doors will go up 60 feet in the air and they are located on both sides of the building. The next facility to go in was the track. This new area includes locker and training rooms. There is no spectator seating but most of the area around the track is bermed so spectators could on a limited basis come out and watch a competition. Next to go in was the Mike and Anne Greenwood Tennis Center. This is located at the corner of McElroy and Washington. The indoor facility was completed about 3 or 4 months ago. This cost about $8 million. The 12 outdoor courts will be operational soon. The 6 south courts will be operational this week. By mid-May the other 6 outdoor courts will be completed. Holder stated that they built all these courts with the hopes of hosting the national championships here in Stillwater. The total cost of the tennis complex was $15 million. There are two other structures on the Athletic Village master
plan. One is an indoor track but Holder has no idea when this will be started. They would build this facility before putting spectator amenities in for track because they can get a lot more use out of the indoor facility. Holder is guessing this is a $10 million building and they currently do not have the funds to build it. The other facility on the drawing board is the baseball stadium. The new stadium will have the same orientation to take advantage of the wind. Holder stated that the department has most of the design completed. This facility will include an extra infield for practice. This will be an artificial surface and the main playing field will be natural grass. It will be about the same size as the current Allie P. Reynolds stadium. It will have 4,000 to 5,000 permanent seats. Holder stated that he has cleared it with the Reynolds family if someone gives OSU enough money to rename the stadium. The Athletic Department plans to put a nice statue in front of the ballpark honoring Allie P. Reynolds no matter if the name is changed or not. The naming rights would cost 50% of the construction costs. The
construction costs are estimated at $36 million so anyone with $18 million can have their name on the new ballpark. The new ballpark will include teaching facilities which makes this a bit more expensive to build. The new ballpark will feature clear sight lines, no more poles blocking your view. The new ball park will include club space, coach's offices and maybe a couple of suites as well as an outdoor club. Holder asked if there were any questions about baseball. Desilva asked if they had the funding for the project. Holder stated he had about ½ the money - $18 of $36 million. Holder stated that the naming rights are critical.
Holder said there are a few really good candidates for these naming rights. Doust asked how about parking at the baseball stadium. Holder stated that there would probably be parking north of the facility. B. Miller asked if there was seating for the track. Holder stated that all there is now is grass berms and since OSU does not host events seating will not be available. Holder stated that the indoor track facility will be completed before seating is purchased for the outdoor track. Miller asked if there was seating at the tennis facility. Holder stated yes there is seating for about 4,000, 300 of which are for the indoor
facility. Holder stated you could put about 2,000 people around each of the 6 outdoor courts.
Holder moved onto the soccer complex. He said they thought about moving it into the Athletic Village but decided that the current location is perfect. No detail drawings are available for the new complex. They do have two donors that have pledged $3 - $5 million each for this complex. Neil Patterson of Kansas City is one of the donors. Malone and Amy Mitchell of Dallas are the other donors. Holder said he thought it would be good to have some form of cover for the fans, which is how the stadiums are in Europe. Holders hope is to berm the perimeters but there is a glitch with the south side. OSU's main transmission line runs underground on this side. Current grandstand will be kept but enhanced. North end will feature the locker, training and support facilities for the team. On the west side will be spectator seating. Holder said the team building and infrastructure would cost $5-$6 million. An additional $8-$10 million would be needed for the grand stand. Holder stated that there will be a locker room for the visiting team.
Holder opened the floor to questions. DeSilva asked if the expansion is west of the current facility. John asked if the Athletic Department thought about using some of these facilities for classrooms for students. Holder believes that is possible in the baseball complex because there will be some classroom settings in the building. Holder stated that it would be great to get more use out of the baseball complex than just 15 baseball games a year. John envisions faculty and student body as a part of the village as opposed to just athletics. Holder stated that the classroom concept could work but the actual playing surfaces would not be open to everyone due to maintenance of those areas. Holder explained that the practice field to the east of Gallagher/Iba is being held as a backup field for football. Materer asked if the main transition lines on McElroy will be placed underground or stay up on the poles. Holder stated they wanted to put these underground but when they reviewed the bill to do this is was too expensive. Weaver stated that it was very cost prohibitive to do this. Holder believes it would cost $15 million to do this. Re-routing the lines was also explored but the costs were just as much. Materer asked if there were plans to put a walkover across Hall of Fame between the stadium and the new practice field. There are a lot of students crossing the busy street. Holder stated that originally they had a tunnel going under Hall of Fame from the locker room in Boone Pickens Stadium to the practice fields. The costs made this impossible. Holder stated that the same cost issue arises with an overpass. He also wondered how many times would it be used for the cost and is it just as safe and not that
disruptive to just stop traffic for a few minutes to let the football players cross the street. DeSilva asked if there were plans to expand McElroy due to heavy traffic. Holder stated that when they did all the setbacks for their buildings they allowed for expansion to a 4 lane road. Holder hopes it is expanded someday. Weaver stated that the problem with a four lane by the athletic village is the areas just east and west of the complex. You would have to buy and move buildings and businesses. It would be very expensive project. Luttbeg asked if there were any thoughts of adding women's volleyball. Holder stated that OSU used to have women's volleyball a long time ago and it was dropped. He didn't know the reason. Holder gets this question quite often but until OSU athletics can fund all the sports that OSU currently has at a level that allows them to compete for championships it wouldn't be fair to add another sport and take away from those already here. Holder said we are a long way from that but he is optimistic that the day will come when we can add another sport. Holder stated that anytime you add a male sport you need to add a female sport. Volleyball wouldn't be as much of a problem because it's a female sport you wouldn't have to add a male sport but if you add a male sport (such as soccer) you need to balance
out the exact same amount of athletes on the female side. So you would in essence be adding two sports every time you add a male sport. DeSilva ask for an update on the equestrian facility. Holder didn't bring it up because he doesn't really know where they are at with it. OSU received a gift of $5 million from Madeline Pickens. Holder thought they could do
something substantial to get this off the ground but the site (the old swine barn on HWY 51) is costly to get done. Holder stated that it would cost $3.5 million just to do the civil work and infrastructure to get ready to put a structure out there. That's most of the $5 million that was donated. So they have gone back to the drawing board to try to figure out if there is a way move the buildings to a different location on the 165 acre parcel or reside it to value engineer it.
This post was edited on 4/7 7:51 PM by OKSTATE1
What Holder said at the Faculty Council:
Holder stated that all the athletic facilities that are being built will be debt free. They will not use any institutional funds and will not borrow money. If they do not have the money available they will not break ground on the facility. Most of the money will be generated through fundraising.
Holder described the master plan for the Athletic Village. The money to buy the real estate north of Hall of Fame encompassed by Duck Street on the east up to Eskridge back down to Washington Street and Hall of Fame (with the exception of the Wes Watkins Center) was provided by Boone Pickens. The Athletic Department spent $45 or $50 million acquiring all this land. This started in 2006 and completed the land purchases in 2007 or 2008. Cleared the properties and let it sit for a few years due to financial problems in 2008. The Sherman Smith training center was the first complex to go in. There are two grass fields along with the building. The outdoor practice field is an artificial surface and the indoor is 94,000 square feet. There is a band practice field just south of the building with a different kind of artificial surface than the
practice field. This field was put in primarily for the band to practicebut can be used as a parking facility. It's not a full sized field, it's only 80 yards. All the money for this complex was donated by the Smith family - $20 million. Holder believes they spent a total of $21 million on the complex. The unique thing about the Smith building is the sides are aircraft hangar doors that are made out of fabric. The building is not heated or cooled. This is an advantage in the summer but not in the winter. Holder stated that the ground inside the building stays cool which is a 10 degree advantage in the summer but it stays cold longer in the winter. Holder stated the hangar doors will go up 60 feet in the air and they are located on both sides of the building. The next facility to go in was the track. This new area includes locker and training rooms. There is no spectator seating but most of the area around the track is bermed so spectators could on a limited basis come out and watch a competition. Next to go in was the Mike and Anne Greenwood Tennis Center. This is located at the corner of McElroy and Washington. The indoor facility was completed about 3 or 4 months ago. This cost about $8 million. The 12 outdoor courts will be operational soon. The 6 south courts will be operational this week. By mid-May the other 6 outdoor courts will be completed. Holder stated that they built all these courts with the hopes of hosting the national championships here in Stillwater. The total cost of the tennis complex was $15 million. There are two other structures on the Athletic Village master
plan. One is an indoor track but Holder has no idea when this will be started. They would build this facility before putting spectator amenities in for track because they can get a lot more use out of the indoor facility. Holder is guessing this is a $10 million building and they currently do not have the funds to build it. The other facility on the drawing board is the baseball stadium. The new stadium will have the same orientation to take advantage of the wind. Holder stated that the department has most of the design completed. This facility will include an extra infield for practice. This will be an artificial surface and the main playing field will be natural grass. It will be about the same size as the current Allie P. Reynolds stadium. It will have 4,000 to 5,000 permanent seats. Holder stated that he has cleared it with the Reynolds family if someone gives OSU enough money to rename the stadium. The Athletic Department plans to put a nice statue in front of the ballpark honoring Allie P. Reynolds no matter if the name is changed or not. The naming rights would cost 50% of the construction costs. The
construction costs are estimated at $36 million so anyone with $18 million can have their name on the new ballpark. The new ballpark will include teaching facilities which makes this a bit more expensive to build. The new ballpark will feature clear sight lines, no more poles blocking your view. The new ball park will include club space, coach's offices and maybe a couple of suites as well as an outdoor club. Holder asked if there were any questions about baseball. Desilva asked if they had the funding for the project. Holder stated he had about ½ the money - $18 of $36 million. Holder stated that the naming rights are critical.
Holder said there are a few really good candidates for these naming rights. Doust asked how about parking at the baseball stadium. Holder stated that there would probably be parking north of the facility. B. Miller asked if there was seating for the track. Holder stated that all there is now is grass berms and since OSU does not host events seating will not be available. Holder stated that the indoor track facility will be completed before seating is purchased for the outdoor track. Miller asked if there was seating at the tennis facility. Holder stated yes there is seating for about 4,000, 300 of which are for the indoor
facility. Holder stated you could put about 2,000 people around each of the 6 outdoor courts.
Holder moved onto the soccer complex. He said they thought about moving it into the Athletic Village but decided that the current location is perfect. No detail drawings are available for the new complex. They do have two donors that have pledged $3 - $5 million each for this complex. Neil Patterson of Kansas City is one of the donors. Malone and Amy Mitchell of Dallas are the other donors. Holder said he thought it would be good to have some form of cover for the fans, which is how the stadiums are in Europe. Holders hope is to berm the perimeters but there is a glitch with the south side. OSU's main transmission line runs underground on this side. Current grandstand will be kept but enhanced. North end will feature the locker, training and support facilities for the team. On the west side will be spectator seating. Holder said the team building and infrastructure would cost $5-$6 million. An additional $8-$10 million would be needed for the grand stand. Holder stated that there will be a locker room for the visiting team.
Holder opened the floor to questions. DeSilva asked if the expansion is west of the current facility. John asked if the Athletic Department thought about using some of these facilities for classrooms for students. Holder believes that is possible in the baseball complex because there will be some classroom settings in the building. Holder stated that it would be great to get more use out of the baseball complex than just 15 baseball games a year. John envisions faculty and student body as a part of the village as opposed to just athletics. Holder stated that the classroom concept could work but the actual playing surfaces would not be open to everyone due to maintenance of those areas. Holder explained that the practice field to the east of Gallagher/Iba is being held as a backup field for football. Materer asked if the main transition lines on McElroy will be placed underground or stay up on the poles. Holder stated they wanted to put these underground but when they reviewed the bill to do this is was too expensive. Weaver stated that it was very cost prohibitive to do this. Holder believes it would cost $15 million to do this. Re-routing the lines was also explored but the costs were just as much. Materer asked if there were plans to put a walkover across Hall of Fame between the stadium and the new practice field. There are a lot of students crossing the busy street. Holder stated that originally they had a tunnel going under Hall of Fame from the locker room in Boone Pickens Stadium to the practice fields. The costs made this impossible. Holder stated that the same cost issue arises with an overpass. He also wondered how many times would it be used for the cost and is it just as safe and not that
disruptive to just stop traffic for a few minutes to let the football players cross the street. DeSilva asked if there were plans to expand McElroy due to heavy traffic. Holder stated that when they did all the setbacks for their buildings they allowed for expansion to a 4 lane road. Holder hopes it is expanded someday. Weaver stated that the problem with a four lane by the athletic village is the areas just east and west of the complex. You would have to buy and move buildings and businesses. It would be very expensive project. Luttbeg asked if there were any thoughts of adding women's volleyball. Holder stated that OSU used to have women's volleyball a long time ago and it was dropped. He didn't know the reason. Holder gets this question quite often but until OSU athletics can fund all the sports that OSU currently has at a level that allows them to compete for championships it wouldn't be fair to add another sport and take away from those already here. Holder said we are a long way from that but he is optimistic that the day will come when we can add another sport. Holder stated that anytime you add a male sport you need to add a female sport. Volleyball wouldn't be as much of a problem because it's a female sport you wouldn't have to add a male sport but if you add a male sport (such as soccer) you need to balance
out the exact same amount of athletes on the female side. So you would in essence be adding two sports every time you add a male sport. DeSilva ask for an update on the equestrian facility. Holder didn't bring it up because he doesn't really know where they are at with it. OSU received a gift of $5 million from Madeline Pickens. Holder thought they could do
something substantial to get this off the ground but the site (the old swine barn on HWY 51) is costly to get done. Holder stated that it would cost $3.5 million just to do the civil work and infrastructure to get ready to put a structure out there. That's most of the $5 million that was donated. So they have gone back to the drawing board to try to figure out if there is a way move the buildings to a different location on the 165 acre parcel or reside it to value engineer it.
This post was edited on 4/7 7:51 PM by OKSTATE1
