Was watching Davis (PSU) va Nasir Bailey (LR). Davis won 1-0 but should have been called stalling atleast couple more times. No offense from him. Bailey didn’t go to the bottom. I will take Bailey the next time they go.
Not sure what match you were watching. Davis deserved his stall call less than a minute into the match but Bailey did nothing after that to deserve Davis getting another. Just because it's hand fighting and good defense for 6 minutes doesn't make it stalling. I guess the ref agreed.Was watching Davis (PSU) va Nasir Bailey (LR). Davis won 1-0 but should have been called stalling atleast couple more times. No offense from him. Bailey didn’t go to the bottom. I will take Bailey the next time they go.
Not at all. I’ve already said Levi didn’t have the TD. I’m just saying that KOT hadn’t yet gotten the TD imo. I think he would have 5-10 seconds later. I’m saying the call was premature but inevitable, and you seem to agree. Where do we disagree?That was the fair outcome. Levi never really had control and had his arm locked by OToole. And finally OToole was coming out of Levi’s crotch when they gave TD. You see everything with your PSU glasses I guess.
Probably both of you have slight ocular problems when viewing your respective teams but I do agree with both of you that matches like this are exciting and close and good for the sport. However, I did not have a dog in this race so I can be more fair and impartial and look like the wise old man I am. However, if a Cowboy was in the match all bets are off as far as being magnanimous and graceful.Not at all. I’ve already said Levi didn’t have the TD. I’m just saying that KOT hadn’t yet gotten the TD imo. I think he would have 5-10 seconds later. I’m saying the call was premature but inevitable, and you seem to agree. Where do we disagree?
lol. My team is OSU. I was looking at it as a neutral.Probably both of you have slight ocular problems when viewing your respective teams but I do agree with both of you that matches like this are exciting and close and good for the sport. However, I did not have a dog in this race so I can be more fair and impartial and look like the wise old man I am. However, if a Cowboy was in the match all bets are off as far as being magnanimous and graceful.
Not 5 or 10 seconds more like 1-2 seconds at best. I don’t see an issue giving that a TD as it was Levi who gave up his grip, like he was ready for the inevitable. Maybe when they meet again, there will be different outcome. But that was a fair result. But if it happens for OSU I would complain too, so I can make sense of your complaint as PSU fan.Not at all. I’ve already said Levi didn’t have the TD. I’m just saying that KOT hadn’t yet gotten the TD imo. I think he would have 5-10 seconds later. I’m saying the call was premature but inevitable, and you seem to agree. Where do we disagree?
Levi style is something which will be difficult for Hamiti to overcome. But Hamiti rate of attack will be a lot higher than Levi, there is a chance that Hamiti converts a couple . OT vs Hamiti will be a banger of offensive clash.The real question is, how does Hamiti stack up? This is where attitude, supreme confidence and a lack of deference would play a factor. If Hamiti walks out on that mat with something to prove, Then he can go with anyone. If he is star struck, he will struggle.
It's not a complaint lol. Just an observation that the TD was awarded too soon. You seem to agree so ...Not 5 or 10 seconds more like 1-2 seconds at best. I don’t see an issue giving that a TD as it was Levi who gave up his grip, like he was ready for the inevitable. Maybe when they meet again, there will be different outcome. But that was a fair result. But if it happens for OSU I would complain too, so I can make sense of your complaint as PSU fan.
Incontrera of Penn is likely to go undefeated, and KOT-Hamiti will wrestle twice. I can see a situation where Hamiti and KOT take up the 1st and 4th seeds at nationals.Levi style is something which will be difficult for Hamiti to overcome. But Hamiti rate of attack will be a lot higher than Levi, there is a chance that Hamiti converts a couple . OT vs Hamiti will be a banger of offensive clash.
Even if Hamiti loses twice, I don’t see him going lower than 3. Only way he goes lower is if he loses to anyone other that OTIncontrera of Penn is likely to go undefeated, and KOT-Hamiti will wrestle twice. I can see a situation where Hamiti and KOT take up the 1st and 4th seeds at nationals.
Incontrera of Penn is likely to go undefeated, and KOT-Hamiti will wrestle twice. I can see a situation where Hamiti and KOT take up the 1st and 4th seeds at nationals.
You think KOT might be the 4 seed after beating Haines, where's that put Levi?Incontrera of Penn is likely to go undefeated, and KOT-Hamiti will wrestle twice. I can see a situation where Hamiti and KOT take up the 1st and 4th seeds at nationals.
Exactly what I was thinking! Knowing how the criteria for seeding works, we can't dismiss Incontrera out of hand to rise up and be a 3rd seed. Dumber things have happened. Way dumber.You think KOT might be the 4 seed after beating Haines, where's that put Levi?
I can see him getting that 4 after the Penn guy if he loses twice to KOT.Even if Hamiti loses twice, I don’t see him going lower than 3. Only way he goes lower is if he loses to anyone other that OT
I feel like in the event they split matches and don’t lose otherwise, the Big 12 winner is #1 in the coaches poll and Incontrera (even if undefeated) is #4.I can see him getting that 4 after the Penn guy if he loses twice to KOT.
What I really can see happening is that he splits with KOT and they get the 2 and three with Haines getting the 1...PSU bias.
I think that Haines would get the 1 if DJ splits with KOT with the winner of the latest match getting the better seed. Incontra goes over one of them as an undefeated guy but his SOS doesn't allow him the 1.I feel like in the event they split matches and don’t lose otherwise, the Big 12 winner is #1 in the coaches poll and Incontrera (even if undefeated) is #4.
The seeding matrix is another story and I have no clue how that would shake out. But if everyone’s matrix score is close enough, I think the coaches are the tie breaker?
The coaches have less say than you would imagine. Only really egregious mistakes are changed and that is not common. The criteria are agreed upon in advance so one cannot easily complain since it's based on math. One of the math criteria is record. Win percent is 10% of the criteriaI feel like in the event they split matches and don’t lose otherwise, the Big 12 winner is #1 in the coaches poll and Incontrera (even if undefeated) is #4.
The seeding matrix is another story and I have no clue how that would shake out. But if everyone’s matrix score is close enough, I think the coaches are the tie breaker?
So Haines 5 seed.Exactly what I was thinking! Knowing how the criteria for seeding works, we can't dismiss Incontrera out of hand to rise up and be a 3rd seed. Dumber things have happened. Way dumber.
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So Haines 5 seed.
Did Haynes jump 2 weights this off season?6
Maybe the seeding committee will screw over another #1 seed at 174 like they did last year with Mekhi Lewis by making Haines the 9 seed.
yesDid Haynes jump 2 weights this off season?
No. Last year was difficult for Levi to make 157. He managed by wrestling low octane matches. Lots of 5-0 type affairs. Until yesterday's loss, every match this year was bonus. Last year was about 65%. He has opened up a lot more.No doubt. It did wonders for Jordan Oliver his senior year. Just curious if he had trouble staying within the weight last year or was it due to the team’s current talent in weights below his.