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Roger Stone Arrested By FBI...

Agreed. Don't mistake my points to be that I'm defending the actions of Manafort, Cohen or even Stone. I'm just tired of seeing lying to congress only being a thing if it happens in conjunction with the Meuller project.

Yeah, I can appreciate that. Hard to disagree with that. So who's done it?

Maybe they do. How is that in any way unique to the recent parade of losers who lied to congress? *Ford? Comey? Clapper? Difference is they weren't part of the Meuller investigation (so far).

* Obviously wouldn't be part of it, but she pretty clearly lied to congress without penalty.


Aaaaaaand there you go. Ford. I believe her -- every word. You adjudicate her as a liar without any sort of objectivity.
 
Obviously you would. Because she was so credi.... check that, because you perceive her as a teammate. If she was testifying against Beto or some similar soy product, you would hurl own shit at your TV like a monkey. Like a damn red assed monkey.
Well if you can get a DC jury entirely composed of brain poisoned Oklahomans you have a real chance at getting those perjury charges to stick.
 
Do you think Comey committed perjury?

I don't "believe" anyone committed perjury until they are convicted of it. I leave it to the investigators to find proof that he/she did, and the prosecutors to do something about it. What's the point of wasting my time forming an opinion of someone's testimony when I don't know anything about it, and it is completely out of my control?
 
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Furthermore, the indictment claims Stone spoke to senior Trump campaign officials about "Organization 1," and information it might have to damage Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. The indictment also alleges Stone was contacted by senior Trump campaign officials to inquire about future releases the organization might have.

In one text obtained by Mueller's office, on Oct. 1, 2016, "Person 2" sent Stone text messages that said, 'big news Wednesday . . . now pretend u don't know me . . . Hillary's campaign will die this week.'"

Soooo.... this person flipped people from voting for Hillary to voting for Trump??? Okay, got it.
 
I don't "believe" anyone committed perjury until they are convicted of it. I leave it to the investigators to find proof that he/she did, and the prosecutors to do something about it. What's the point of wasting my time forming an opinion of someone's testimony when I don't know anything about it, and it is completely out of my control?

 
Obviously you would. Because she was so credi.... check that, because you perceive her as a teammate. If she was testifying against Beto or some similar soy product, you would hurl own shit at your TV like a monkey. Like a damn red assed monkey.

No, I just found her credible. We can sit here and call each other partisan, tribal, etc. but it sure seems like you guys have a long pattern of accusing people of crimes when you just don't like them. Repetition of an allegation is not evidence. Mueller brings evidence that enables the citizenry to make that type of evaluation. Hillary was never charged and everyone (and you I think?) screamed that she was a criminal. It's constant allegations of criminality and pfffft nothing. Across two administrations, one of which hates her and pffft. Now Ford committed a crime. And comey. Those allegations are reeeeal cheap from you guys. Always ready to criminalize the opposition, like banana republic thugs.

You don't see libs on here screaming Kavanaugh perjured himself. Personally, I detest him. I don't believe him, but I'm not gonna scream "perjurer!" and "rapist!" when I don't know for sure. It's a shitty move to go straight to "criminal" when you don't like someone. That's what you guys plainly did with Hillary and you did it with your very first name -- Ford -- in that above post.
 
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So wre’re talking about someone lying to someone? Lying to someone? That’s it? Surely this guy has Russian collusion written all over him. Lying? Really, lying?
 
ya some real bloodhounds this
no scope mueller guys got going

interesting concept of investigation

the previous investigators just got fired

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I don't "believe" anyone committed perjury until they are convicted of it. I leave it to the investigators to find proof that he/she did, and the prosecutors to do something about it. What's the point of wasting my time forming an opinion of someone's testimony when I don't know anything about it, and it is completely out of my control?
Well, there are those occasions where evidence is available in plain sight from which the average consumer of news can form an opinion if they’re willing to poke their head out of their turtle shell.

For example, if there was a video of Comey telling Senator Grassley during Congressional testimony under oath that he never leaked knew of anybody who leaked the to the media, but then there’s another video where Comey admits leaking info to a friend so the friend could then leak it to the New York Times, would you feel comfortable forming an opinion that Comey had committed perjury?
 
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Well, there are those occasions where evidence is available in plain sight from which the average consumer of news can form an opinion if they’re willing to poke their head out of their turtle shell.

For example, if there was a video of Comey telling Senator Grassley during Congressional testimony under oath that he never leaked knew of anybody who leaked the to the media, but then there’s another video where Comey admits leaking info to a friend so the friend could then leak it to the New York Times, would you feel comfortable forming an opinion that Comey had committed perjury?

I'd have to see both videos to answer that question.

I think it is safe to assume that there is not clear evidence that he perjured himself, otherwise the DOJ would have brought charges in 2018 since Trump was POTUS, the House and Senate were majority GOP, and Trump clearly hates Comey.
 
I'd have to see both videos to answer that question.

I think it is safe to assume that there is not clear evidence that he perjured himself, otherwise the DOJ would have brought charges in 2018 since Trump was POTUS, the House and Senate were majority GOP, and Trump clearly hates Comey.

after the manner in which comey bumbled thru canks email investigation

you think it’s safe to assume he’s not charged

after reading strzok and paige’s text you think it’s safe to assume

after clapper get fired you think it’s safe to assume

yes this clapper

the guy with such a warped view of right and wrong he advocates for a fbi informant in the trump campaign

 
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after the manner in which comey bumbled thru canks email investigation

you think it’s safe to assume he’s not charged

after reading strzok and paige’s text you think it’s safe to assume

after clapper get fired you think it’s safe to assume

yes this clapper

the guy with such a warped view of right and wrong he advocates for a fbi informant in the trump campaign


Well, I’m happy to see the all charged if there is actually evidence supporting changes, rather than just wishful thinking, by TDS believers.
 
Well, I’m happy to see the all charged if there is actually evidence supporting changes, rather than just wishful thinking, by TDS believers.

you co-opting tds now?

snowflake pearl clutching
you just grab it and make it yours

plenty of evidence for deep state coup

so glad our taxpayer funded mueller investigation is pinching roger stone

the guns drawn raid at dawn was quite the spectacle
 
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Well, I’m happy to see the all charged if there is actually evidence supporting changes, rather than just wishful thinking, by TDS believers.

mccabe

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/6023...case-against-fired-deputy-fbi-director-mccabe

"Americans deserve honesty from their government, especially from those who work to secure justice," he said. "Lack of candor at any level of the FBI or Justice Department risks more than reputation; it also imperils the confidence needed for the agency to function effectively. Steps to hold itself accountable will go a long way in restoring faith in the FBI and Justice Department."
 
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mccabe

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/6023...case-against-fired-deputy-fbi-director-mccabe

"Americans deserve honesty from their government, especially from those who work to secure justice," he said. "Lack of candor at any level of the FBI or Justice Department risks more than reputation; it also imperils the confidence needed for the agency to function effectively. Steps to hold itself accountable will go a long way in restoring faith in the FBI and Justice Department."

Weird that he hasn’t been indicted.
 
Must have missed all the other people indicted for lack of candor.

back in the day i lost a cnote playing the
shell game outside a record store in time square

i reached out to grab the guy who took my money and a security guard grabbed me from behind and pulled me into the store

he said you’re not from around here
where are you staying

he said get on this bus go four stops go to your friends apartment and wait til she gets home before you go out again


no i’m not shocked lack of candor doesn’t move your needle

your ignorance is the waters the swamp thrives in

it gives deputy director of the fbi
lack of candor mccabe
freedom to operate
 
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back in the day i lost a cnote playing the
shell game outside a record store in time square

i reached out to grab the guy who took my money and a security guard grabbed me from behind and pulled me into the store

he said you’re not from around here
where are you staying

he said get on this bus go four stops go to your friends apartment and wait til she gets home before you go out again


no i’m not shocked lack of candor doesn’t move your needle

your ignorance is the waters the swamp thrives in

it gives deputy director of the fbi
lack of candor mccabe
freedom to operate

A). So, you lost $100 playing the shell game in Times Square, and I'm the ignorant one?

B). Let me see if this makes sense.

McCabe, Comey and Hilary, all of which are HATED by POTUS, who is in charge of the DOJ, are all guilty of significant crimes, with plenty of proof just sitting there for the taking, yet none of them are indicted.

Meanwhile, Roger Stone, who is one of POTUS' closest friends, gets indicted, and the charges against him are trumped up (no pun intended).

And, the reason this is all happening is because of some giant conspiracy theory that POTUS and his DOJ are incapable of cutting through to and dealing with.

It defies logic.
 
A). So, you lost $100 playing the shell game in Times Square, and I'm the ignorant one?

B). Let me see if this makes sense.

McCabe, Comey and Hilary, all of which are HATED by POTUS, who is in charge of the DOJ, are all guilty of significant crimes, with plenty of proof just sitting there for the taking, yet none of them are indicted.

Meanwhile, Roger Stone, who is one of POTUS' closest friends, gets indicted, and the charges against him are trumped up (no pun intended).

And, the reason this is all happening is because of some giant conspiracy theory that POTUS and his DOJ are incapable of cutting through to and dealing with.

It defies logic.

read carefully and allow time for processing

i’ve said nothing of roger stones charges being trumped up
 
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A). So, you lost $100 playing the shell game in Times Square, and I'm the ignorant one?

B). Let me see if this makes sense.

McCabe, Comey and Hilary, all of which are HATED by POTUS, who is in charge of the DOJ, are all guilty of significant crimes, with plenty of proof just sitting there for the taking, yet none of them are indicted.

Meanwhile, Roger Stone, who is one of POTUS' closest friends, gets indicted, and the charges against him are trumped up (no pun intended).

And, the reason this is all happening is because of some giant conspiracy theory that POTUS and his DOJ are incapable of cutting through to and dealing with.

It defies logic.


in referencing times square
i said back in the day1993 to be exact

so ya i got burnt and learned
25 years later you haven’t
 
A). So, you lost $100 playing the shell game in Times Square, and I'm the ignorant one?

B). Let me see if this makes sense.

McCabe, Comey and Hilary, all of which are HATED by POTUS, who is in charge of the DOJ, are all guilty of significant crimes, with plenty of proof just sitting there for the taking, yet none of them are indicted.

Meanwhile, Roger Stone, who is one of POTUS' closest friends, gets indicted, and the charges against him are trumped up (no pun intended).

And, the reason this is all happening is because of some giant conspiracy theory that POTUS and his DOJ are incapable of cutting through to and dealing with.

It defies logic.

i posted specifically about
deputy director mccabe being
fired for “lack of candor”

yet you move the goalposts to include cank and jimmy to help your logic be defied

if you’re going to refute my posts

let’s keep it to my posts
 
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