Pence

[davidallen]

is he establishment?

Do you consider him a viable alternative? An upgrade? A downgrade?

The Pence option has to be under consideration....

 

[CBradSmith]

Did something happen?

 

[Rdcldad]

personally hoping hillary gets the nod and pence is irrelevant


oh wait she lost lol

 

[N. Pappagiorgio]

The Pence option has to be under consideration....

Why is that?

 

[Alpha Poke]

If this were the 50's a gentleman would give you a taste of the back of his hand to bring the chick histrionics under control in situations like this.

Looks like we need to revisit.

 

[long-duc-dong]

is he establishment?

Do you consider him a viable alternative? An upgrade? A downgrade?

The Pence option has to be under consideration....

"Do you consider him a viable alternative?"

Last I checked, he's the only alternative.

Your. Head. Would. Explode!

 

[GL97]

is he establishment?

Ah yes, Pence. A favorite of the Republican establishment. Former #3 in the House. Good buddies with Paul Ryan.

I've always thought Pence was the endgame for establishment Republicans in relation to Trump. Isn't it just perfect how Pence seems to always have plausible deniability when it comes to Trump's blunders? Like with the Comey conversations . . . remember . . . Pence was asked to leave.

 

[davidallen]

My avatar smarmily smiles at you Trumpets.

 

[Rdcldad]

My avatar smarmily smiles at you Trumpets.

you mean smiles at the president don't you?

 

[davidallen]

you mean smiles at the president don't you?

No, I mean you, Frankie, Mega, Harry, Brad and Alpha.

 

[Medic007]

is he establishment?

Do you consider him a viable alternative? An upgrade? A downgrade?

The Pence option has to be under consideration....

Pence is an evangelical social conservative. Not a fan. He was selected as part of the not ever never Hillary ticket so it is what it is.

 

[Rdcldad]

No, I mean you, Frankie, Mega, Harry, Brad and Alpha.

what's hillary up to these days?

 

[davidallen]

what's hillary up to these days?

Fat ass sitting on the couch AFAIK...

 

[Alpha Poke]

Has your period synced with the chicks around you?

I hear that's a thing.

 

[Medic007]

Fat ass sitting on the couch AFAIK...

Since the political favors have been put to pasture and the cash to the Clinton Foundation slush fund has dried up, they decided to start a new anti-Trump Super PAC slush fund for the "resistance." I think it's called Don't Let Us Be Dead Broke Again.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

The lefts call for impeachment is pushing me back into Trump support. I have been willing to listen to a point and that point has been reached. This rhetoric is the quickest way to civil strife or worse. I will not support any effort or rhetoric that fans the flame of impeachment. The left has lost any kind of support from me for the rest of Trumps term.

 

[07pilt]

The lefts call for impeachment is pushing me back into Trump support. I have been willing to listen to a point and that point has been reached. This rhetoric is the quickest way to civil strife or worse. I will not support any effort or rhetoric that fans the flame of impeachment. The left has lost any kind of support from me for the rest of Trumps term.

Damnit, guys! We almost had him!

 

[GL97]

Interesting @Medic007 that you liked Tulsa's post, but just yesterday, you posted that if it is proven Trump obstructed justice, he should be kicked out of office...

If Comey did experience an attempt to shut down the investigation of Flynn, I hope he squeals like a pig. Any attempt to undermine our system of justice is worthy of removal from office, regardless of party etc. I don't want Pence to become President for a variety of good reasons, but if Trump actually tried to urge Comey to sweep shit under the rug, he needs the boot kicking his ass out of office.

So which is it?

 

[Medic007]

Interesting @Medic007 that you liked Tulsa's post, but just yesterday, you posted that if it is proven Trump obstructed justice, he should be kicked out of office...



So which is it?

Read my post again, rookie. Just because I "liked" a post doesn't mean that I agree with it or feel the same way. Don't be a stupid girl. My eyes aren't wandering, darling.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

This is the problem with your approach. You will only inflame the right and turn off the center. The lefts narrative was getting attention, but now you will drive a dark wedge between yourselves and the center that you will need to successfully garner the votes. There a lot of people just like me. You are turning off any support you gained over the first 100 days of Trumps Presidency. Will this be impeachment for Trump or establishment backlash? The people already voted against the establishment once.

 

[07pilt]

This is the problem with your approach. You will only inflame the right and turn off the center. The lefts narrative was getting attention, but now you will drive a dark wedge between yourselves and the center that you will need to successfully garner the votes. There a lot of people just like me. You are turning off any support you gained over the first 100 days of Trumps Presidency. Will this be impeachment for Trump or establishment backlash? The people already voted against the establishment once.

Guys, we need to be really careful here. The center is getting wedged away, because people are talking about impeachment. Vast swaths of Trump voters are regretting it, but not enough to countenance hearing anyone mention doing anything about it. Also 2020 is the year reasonable Republican are finally willing to come to our side, for real this time, they promise.

 

[JohnVoight]

Pence scares the bejeezus out of me. A social conservative. Yuck. To Trump's credit, it was a great poison pill pick. Just imagine what Pence and Sessions could accomplish together.

 

[aix_xpert]

Any impeachment play would commit the Dems to being the 'obstructionist' party and the likely stock market and economic tumble that would occur from such chaos in Washington would be owned squarely by the Democratic party. Yes, they could win the battle of getting Trump out of office. But they'd likely lose the war on flipping 2018 (or even 2020) election results as the moderates and centrists would flee the party in droves.

 

[Medic007]

Guys, we need to be really careful here. The center is getting wedged away, because people are talking about impeachment. Vast swaths of Trump voters are regretting it, but not enough to countenance hearing anyone mention doing anything about it. Also 2020 is the year reasonable Republican are finally willing to come to our side, for real this time, they promise.

The center, literally and figuratively, put Trump in the White House. I'd like to think that was a wakeup call to the Democratic party that the white males they love to hate still have a voice. They are going to have to do better than anti-Trump to get the attention of the folks that put Trump in the White House.

 

[07pilt]

Any impeachment play would commit the Dems to being the 'obstructionist' party

Look at how poorly that worked out for the Republicans.

moderates and centrists would flee the party in droves.

All 7 of them?

 

[07pilt]

The center, literally and figuratively, put Trump in the White House. I'd like to think that was a wakeup call to the Democratic party that the white males they love to hate still have a voice. They are going to have to do better than anti-Trump to get the attention of the folks that put Trump in the White House.

The "center" voted for Trump. They aren't switching. It is a fantasy that ruined HRC's campaign.

 

[CowboyJD]

Read my post again, rookie. Just because I "liked" a post doesn't mean that I agree with it or feel the same way. Don't be a stupid girl. My eyes aren't wandering, darling.

I like a lot of posts I disagree with substantively.....

-If I thought it was a well reasoned, compelling, well supported argument even if I disagree with it.

-If I thought it was a clever or effective jibe, barb, or poke at someone....whether I disagree or agree with anyone involved

-If it makes me laugh

-Sometimes completely randomly to keep people confused.

 

[GL97]

Any impeachment play would commit the Dems to being the 'obstructionist' party and the likely stock market and economic tumble that would occur from such chaos in Washington would be owned squarely by the Democratic party. Yes, they could win the battle of getting Trump out of office. But they'd likely lose the war on flipping 2018 (or even 2020) election results as the moderates and centrists would flee the party in droves.

There is so much wrong with this analysis, is hard to figure out where to begin.

Suffice to say, if it is proven that Trump broke the law, impeachment isn't going to hurt the Democrats. Sure, hardcore Trump supporters will get upset, but right now, Trump's base of support isn't that strong. Moderates and centrists are not going to flee if Trump is being held accountable for breaking the law.

 

[Medic007]

The "center" voted for Trump. They aren't switching. It is a fantasy that ruined HRC's campaign.

I don't see many actually switching parties (I switched from Dem to Independent in 2016), but white Democrats voting the other party and just not voting are problems the Democrats are going to have to address. White Democrats staying home was a big reason some blue states turned red.

 

[07pilt]

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/333803-first-republican-raises-impeachment-for-trump
Guys we have a potential disaster brewing. Get word to just Amash immediately. He is going to lose the center for chrissakes!

 

[07pilt]

I don't see many actually switching parties (I switched from Dem to Independent in 2016), but white Democrats voting the other party and just not voting are problems the Democrats are going to have to address. White Democrats staying home was a big reason some blue states turned red.

You fix that by offering a program of policies to actually material improve their lives, not by being nice to Donald Trump.

 

[GL97]

I don't see many actually switching parties

There is some switching. I switched from Republican to Democrat. There is a growing group of people who don't like either party though, especially among younger voters.

Democrats just need to regain their economic and domestic voice and that should help them in terms of the voters they lost to Trump in 2016. Plus, come 2018 and 2020, Democrats will have the opportunity to run against an actual record that Trump has. That will be more of an advantage for them compared to the Trump they ran against in 2016.

 

[Medic007]

I like a lot of posts I disagree with substantively.....

-If I thought it was a well reasoned, compelling, well supported argument even if I disagree with it.

-If I thought it was a clever or effective jibe, barb, or poke at someone....whether I disagree or agree with anyone involved

-If it makes me laugh

-Sometimes completely randomly to keep people confused.

My thoughts exactly. I didn't realize the 'like" system here was set up to indicate implicit agreement with the contents of a post. Now I know and will be more careful to only "like" posts that I agree with 100%. Not really. lol

 

[Medic007]

You fix that by offering a program of policies to actually material improve their lives, not by being nice to Donald Trump.

I agree 100%. I don't think impeachment of Trump for actual crimes will hurt the Democrats. The constant braying without actual substance might though. It did in the 2016 election.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

If this were the 50's a gentleman would give you a taste of the back of his hand to bring the chick histrionics under control in situations like this.

Looks like we need to revisit.

Has your period synced with the chicks around you?

I hear that's a thing.

YOu don't get this much "chick" references outside of Happy Days reruns.

 

[CBradSmith]

My thoughts exactly. I didn't realize the 'like" system here was set up to indicate implicit agreement with the contents of a post. Now I know and will be more careful to only "like" posts that I agree with 100%. Not really. lol

I "like" stuff from that dope @syskatine on occasion.... the occassion where he has a lucid thought and doesnt splattershoot shit out his wordhole onto my monitor. So, the bar is low for him.

 

[CBradSmith]

No, I mean you, Frankie, Mega, Harry, Brad and Alpha.

I'm now immune to the smarm. I have a clearer understanding of what I'm looking at.

 

[CowboyJD]

I'm now immune to the smarm. I have a clearer understanding of what I'm looking at.

Eventually, you may even come to appreciate the smarm instead of just being immune.

 

[CBradSmith]

Eventually, you may even come to appreciate the smarm instead of just being immune.

Depends on what I perceive underwrites the smarm as it relates to the intention of the smarm.

There are some qualities of character I simply cannot appreciate in a given context.

 

[Rdcldad]

[QUOTE="GL97, post: 1001247, member: 20603]
Democrats just need to regain their economic and domestic voice and that should help them in terms of the voters they lost to Trump in 2016.[/QUOTE]

after 8 years of running the country
you think dems will be running on an economic platform in 2018 because they lost their voice?

what sort of domestic voice did dems loose?

dems wont be running on policy in 2018
they'll be running on fake news and mudslinging