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[dvpoke25]

I like potentially adding Ryder and keeping Thompson. Thompson’s offense was a bit lacking as a freshman but maybe this situation helps him develop.

I also agree with sentiment regarding Iowa. They are doing fine and should have a pretty good squad next year. I like way our team is shaping up and is going to be young so should watch them improve.

 

[osudog]

Iowa and Nebraska will have a nice dual team next year for sure they will be our competition for 2-3 next year . I think we have to be extremely happy with how DT is starting to build OSU back to a contender

 

[chasepollard]

Iowa and Nebraska will have a nice dual team next year for sure they will be our competition for 2-3 next year . I think we have to be extremely happy with how DT is starting to build OSU back to a contender

Yeah, I was looking at the depth chart and that’s one hell of Goliath for our David for quite some time…if they stopped now.

Mormons are genetically prone to be very strong group leaders…so he ain’t stopping.

 

[AtownPoke]

Iowa and Nebraska will have a nice dual team next year for sure they will be our competition for 2-3 next year . I think we have to be extremely happy with how DT is starting to build OSU back to a contender

100%

 

[GableBeer]

Yeah, I was looking at the depth chart and that’s one hell of Goliath for our David for quite some time…if they stopped now.

Mormons are genetically prone to be very strong group leaders…so he ain’t stopping.

It’s crazy they could stop recruiting for the next 4 years and still be ahead of the pack. DT just needs to keep taking their guys, death of a 1000 paper cuts. Kasak next hopefully.

 

[AtownPoke]

It’s crazy they could stop recruiting for the next 4 years and still be ahead of the pack. DT just needs to keep taking their guys, death of a 1000 paper cuts. Kasak next hopefully.

Yep. They’re overplaying their hand alittle. They seem to be pushing Duke very hard. On the rare occasion that Cael missteps you have to capitalize but I wouldn’t count on it happening too much.

 

[DEWrestlingFan]

Cael being loyal to Cael and no one else cost him Ryder. More will follow after this.

 

[Chasingthirty-five]

Cael being loyal to Cael and no one else cost him Ryder. More will follow after this.

To be fair, we have no leg to stand on right now that this was a bad decision for PSU. With the depth they have collected, this was always bound to happen at some point. Cael has not done anything the last decade that supports yet this was a "mistake". They will only continue to stock the reserves. I sure hope this one comes back to bite them, but it can definitely go either way.

 

[DEWrestlingFan]

To be fair, we have no leg to stand on right now that this was a bad decision for PSU. With the depth they have collected, this was always bound to happen at some point. Cael has not done anything the last decade that supports yet this was a "mistake". They will only continue to stock the reserves. I sure hope this one comes back to bite them, but it can definitely go either way.

Agreed, but he has also not had someone like Ryder leave before after a transfer or recruit coming in. I am going to assume that he just though Ryder would stick around. And if he did, he was wrong. Now that it has started, others may follow. Does Sealey or Duke do the same as Ryder?

 

[cearle462]

Agreed, but he has also not had someone like Ryder leave before after a transfer or recruit coming in. I am going to assume that he just though Ryder would stick around. And if he did, he was wrong. Now that it has started, others may follow. Does Sealey or Duke do the same as Ryder?

Cael and Co. have more information on Ryder than anyone in the country and still risked bringing in Welsh. Maybe, they weren't sold on his potential/development? Everybody just assumes they messed this up, but maybe it was more calculated than we realize.

 

[Chasingthirty-five]

Cael and Co. have more information on Ryder than anyone in the country and still risked bringing in Welsh. Maybe, they weren't sold on his potential/development? Everybody just assumes they messed this up, but maybe it was more calculated than we realize.

I don't think it was a laissez faire decision. I'm curious if they were hoping that whoever didnt win it is willing to wait another year and then drop to 174. That would make sense. However, asking someone to sit out a year that expected to start 4/4 or 4/5 years isnt an easy request either. They have done a dang good job at convincing guys to do it though.

 

[DEWrestlingFan]

Cael and Co. have more information on Ryder than anyone in the country and still risked bringing in Welsh. Maybe, they weren't sold on his potential/development? Everybody just assumes they messed this up, but maybe it was more calculated than we realize.

And it may be exactly what everyone thinks it is, that he messed up. I would say his performance on the International scene, and his performance during his RS year and 2024 say that Cael messed up on this one. I guess no one will know until next season.

 

[Chasingthirty-five]

Does Sealey or Duke do the same as Ryder?

Sealey is an interesting one. I think the consensus from PSU fans is that Duke could win the job this year possibly from Kasak which is just insane to think that a two time 3rd place finisher could get benched. But with that in mind, you have to winder if Kasak is getting benched, where does that leave Sealey? I don't think Sealey is big enough for 165, but I guess he could sit behind MM for 2 years and then have 2 years at 165? Or maybe Duke grows into 165 after MM and Sealey has 157 back? But then where is Kasak during all this. What a freaking log jam of talent. Two studs left out no matter how you spin it!

 

[Old Number Nine]

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I looked him up and there is no way this guy goes 184!

 

[Cowboy1989]

At some point the dam has to break. The accumulation of all these high caliber contenders riding the bench at PSU and OSU on the rise under Taylor will hopefully make it happen. Once guys finally figure out they can do just as well or even better at OSU than at Penn State we will challenge for the top spot again.

 

[Old Number Nine]

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Brayden Thompson’s mom is taking it well lol

I don't think Ed Ruth ever beat Chris Perry in high school and I'm pretty sure neither Brands beat Alan Fried. I'm just sayin'

 

[Mr.OSU]

I looked him up and there is no way this guy goes 184!

Heard he says Wooh wooh wooh after every pin.

 

[Air_Thurman]

At some point the dam has to break. The accumulation of all these high caliber contenders riding the bench at PSU and OSU on the rise under Taylor will hopefully make it happen. Once guys finally figure out they can do just as well or even better at OSU than at Penn State we will challenge for the top spot again.

100%. For the first time these kids have an option of world class training outside of PSU with what DT is building with the RTC. Someone the other day listed the talent that was in Stillwater if you are between 165-197. It is insane. PSU has built such a machine there are potentially world class guys who have no real path to starting. We are a great alternative for those guys.

 

[osudog]

100%. For the first time these kids have an option of world class training outside of PSU with what DT is building with the RTC. Someone the other day listed the talent that was in Stillwater if you are between 165-197. It is insane. PSU has built such a machine there are potentially world class guys who have no real path to starting. We are a great alternative for those guys.

Exactly 👍🏻

 

[osudog]

I don't think Ed Ruth ever beat Chris Perry in high school and I'm pretty sure neither Brands beat Alan Fried. I'm just sayin'

Good take and Plott beat Keck in high school and we see how that ended

 

[Stilly08]

Cael and Co. have more information on Ryder than anyone in the country and still risked bringing in Welsh. Maybe, they weren't sold on his potential/development? Everybody just assumes they messed this up, but maybe it was more calculated than we realize.

agreed, not that I am wary but Ryder has trained with Cael for the past 2 years and he clearly knew this was a possibility even if he thought Ryder would stay and sit and he still chose Welsh. Make no mistake about it, Cael chose Rocco over Ryder, we'll see how it plays out over the next few years and if this was the real domino of the dynasty crumbling (they will never really crumble under Cael but at some point they aren't going to win every single year lol)

 

[Stilly08]

Good take and Plott beat Keck in high school and we see how that ended

Wow really? I didn't know that. Schwab has done a friggin amazing job there

 

[osudog]

Wow really? I didn't know that. Schwab has done a friggin amazing job there

He really has done phenomenal

 

[lookleft goright]

At some point the dam has to break. The accumulation of all these high caliber contenders riding the bench at PSU and OSU on the rise under Taylor will hopefully make it happen. Once guys finally figure out they can do just as well or even better at OSU than at Penn State we will challenge for the top spot again.

What is the downside to recruiting every stud you can get. With the portal, I would take a chance on going to PSU. Especially, if there was some NIL money involved as a recruit. If it doesn't work out after a year or two, just move on.
I can also see the argument for going to a NC State or V Tech or any other high end school in the top 10 or 15 and then transferring out if I prove that I can be an AA.

 

[On Tulsa Time]

Wow really? I didn't know that. Schwab has done a friggin amazing job there

Pretty sure Plott beat Starocci too.

 

[SlickWillie2018]

Pretty sure Plott beat Starocci too.

Plott was higher ranked and had beaten Starocci. I don’t know how much of it was Starocci and Keck having higher ceilings, or if the previous staff just did not develop Plott anywhere near what he could’ve been. The world will never know.

 

[On Tulsa Time]

Plott was higher ranked and had beaten Starocci. I don’t know how much of it was Starocci and Keck having higher ceilings, or if the previous staff just did not develop Plott anywhere near what he could’ve been. The world will never know.

I think Starocci’s comment about being on the mat for the team was easier wrestling than the wrestling in the training room speaks volumes and why so many of us have been begging for a quality RTC for years.

 

[osudog]

Plott was higher ranked and had beaten Starocci. I don’t know how much of it was Starocci and Keck having higher ceilings, or if the previous staff just did not develop Plott anywhere near what he could’ve been. The world will never know.

Injuries hurt Plott also.

 

[JAY45]

At some point the dam has to break. The accumulation of all these high caliber contenders riding the bench at PSU and OSU on the rise under Taylor will hopefully make it happen. Once guys finally figure out they can do just as well or even better at OSU than at Penn State we will challenge for the top spot again.

Well said. Especially when they realize they can go East or West and get the same thing.

 

[kjb32812]

At some point the dam has to break. The accumulation of all these high caliber contenders riding the bench at PSU and OSU on the rise under Taylor will hopefully make it happen. Once guys finally figure out they can do just as well or even better at OSU than at Penn State we will challenge for the top spot again.

I posted on our board that the head to heads will matter. Also, DT is getting the shiny new toy bump that you would expect considering his credentials and notoriety as well as your history. However, he still has to coach...that's what will determine the LT impact. Trending well, obviously, but long ways to go.

 

[Okie_Pat]

Cael and Co. have more information on Ryder than anyone in the country and still risked bringing in Welsh. Maybe, they weren't sold on his potential/development? Everybody just assumes they messed this up, but maybe it was more calculated than we realize.

Is it possible that Cael brought in Welsh only to keep him from us? I feel like we probably had the best chance at him. This might have nothing to do with what they think of Ryder, but strictly a strategic move to keep us from gaining on them.

 

[Cowboy1989]

I posted on our board that the head to heads will matter. Also, DT is getting the shiny new toy bump that you would expect considering his credentials and notoriety as well as your history. However, he still has to coach...that's what will determine the LT impact. Trending well, obviously, but long ways to go.

Good point. I think Hamiti over Haines and Wyatt over Greg made a difference.

 

[kjb32812]

Good point. I think Hamiti over Haines and Wyatt over Greg made a difference.

I don't think Kerk mattered. The shine was in beating Gable.

 

[100TonsofOrangeFury]

Injuries hurt Plott also.

As was the fact that he was far inferior athletically to those other guys. Their ceilings were much higher as accidents of birth. Thought Plott did admirably against both given the realities.

 

[Air_Thurman]

Is it possible that Cael brought in Welsh only to keep him from us? I feel like we probably had the best chance at him. This might have nothing to do with what they think of Ryder, but strictly a strategic move to keep us from gaining on them.

That is exactly what Pyles said on FLO today. He wasn't saying it as fact but theorizing.

 

[Air_Thurman]

As was the fact that he was far inferior athletically to those other guys. Their ceilings were much higher as accidents of birth. Thought Plott did admirably against both given the realities.

Honestly, the more I watched Plott wrestle the more I was impressed how much he accomplished with his lack of athleticism.

 

[SlickWillie2018]

Honestly, the more I watched Plott wrestle the more I was impressed how much he accomplished with his lack of athleticism.

I think we maybe touch on it sometimes, but I don’t know if Dustin gets enough credit for how much of his success comes from being an absolute dawg. He wasn’t some super fast or super strong freak who out-athleticism’d dudes. He was just MEAN and was going to out effort guys.

 

[Cowboy1989]

I think we maybe touch on it sometimes, but I don’t know if Dustin gets enough credit for how much of his success comes from being an absolute dawg. He wasn’t some super fast or super strong freak who out-athleticism’d dudes. He was just MEAN and was going to out effort guys.

He was a warrior.

 

[OSUMatFan]

I get tired of the comments that we did not develop wrestlers. I am not sure that Daton could have gotten any better from when he arrived. Somewhat the same with Dustin. You cannot train someone to be quicker. Watch how David Taylor recruits. He is looking for quickness the same as Cael has done. Just because a guy wins matches before college does not mean he will be a great collegiate wrestler. Most can get stronger, but few get quicker if any.

 

[osudog]

Plott was a dawg and yes he wasn’t an elite athlete. That is what cost him in the end when it was all said and done. Plott was great for us either way