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More Left-Wing Violence & Free Speech Intolerance

When the left raised a stink for people, non-citizens, having their Rights taken away by Trump, the left saw it as wrong and un-American. When someone on the right, a non-citizen, is denied his rights it is seen as "that person isn't a citizen, they don't have US Rights". Which is it?
That's what I am saying. Which is it?
 
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Is he a legal resident? If so, then yes, he is covered.
Like green card holders?

Also, wrong answer. Free speech is a universal value that should be respected whether or not it is constitutionally covered.
 
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That's what I am saying. Which is it?
One did not suppress any rights, the other suppressed speech in a supposed bastion for free speech by violence...

One right, one wrong. That is the way I am interpreting it.
 
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One did not suppress any rights, the other suppressed speech in a supposed bastion for free speech by violence...

One right, one wrong. That is the way I am interpreting it.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
Like green card holders?

Also, wrong answer. Free speech is a universal value that should be respected whether or not it is constitutionally covered.
Yes. Green card holders.

I also agree that it is universal, but I'll argue that the US Constitution IRS not protect people in other countries that are not US Citizens or legal aliens.
 
I have no problem with peaceful protests, its allowed by the constitution, but when it goes violent or destructive it defeats becomes a crime. But, how can President Trump threaten Cal - Berkeley? The University , despite complaints and protests was going to let him speak, it was only when it became a security issue was it cancelled.
 
I have no problem with peaceful protests, its allowed by the constitution, but when it goes violent or destructive it defeats becomes a crime. But, how can President Trump threaten Cal - Berkeley? The University , despite complaints and protests was going to let him speak, it was only when it became a security issue was it cancelled.

are you new to following Trump?
 
I have no problem with peaceful protests, its allowed by the constitution, but when it goes violent or destructive it defeats becomes a crime. But, how can President Trump threaten Cal - Berkeley? The University , despite complaints and protests was going to let him speak, it was only when it became a security issue was it cancelled.

Pretty obvious. From the mayor down, the riot was allowed and excused as it went on for hours. They are lucky nobody got killed this time.
 
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Translation - you'll have an opinion when you've had a chance to be told what it is.

Okay Maga, I've booted up and started through the LIVE UPDATES!! of the breitbart article that Frank posted. I got a few entries in and kind of gave up -- I can't see a wide open riot, although there's a BOA lobby that was plainly damaged. I didn't see anyone gassed per the photo (A chick has her eye closed.) or the guy knocked out in the video (watched a minute in). 3 minutes I'll never get back. Every time. Its on me though, I know better.

I am against crime, tearing up everyone's property (but BOA's) (kidding), hitting people, (not really kidding about BOA) obstructing traffic, riots, arson, mayhem, refusing to turn right on red and making me wait, applying makeup on the road, etc. All of it. No matter who does it. That blanket condemnation lasts until Easter and I'll re-evaluate based on Biff's conduct.

But why am I supposed to defend everyone that hates Trump? That's an awfully big tent to defend. I have to defend teenagers and college kids? I guess I would respond with, they're doing far, far, far less damage than Biff does on a daily basis. While their actions aren't justified, the outrage is. That's why I have my very own running thread about how awful Biff is, so that you don't have to listen to me bitch about it.

I did worse than anything I saw in those pictures and so did you.

That's my best shot. If anybody hurt people or tore up property they should be prosecuted, regardless of the subjective motivation.
 
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Okay Maga, I've booted up and started through the LIVE UPDATES!! of the breitbart article that Frank posted. I got a few entries in and kind of gave up -- I can't see a wide open riot, although there's a BOA lobby that was plainly damaged. I didn't see anyone gassed per the photo (A chick has her eye closed.) or the guy knocked out in the video (watched a minute in). 3 minutes I'll never get back. Every time. Its on me though, I know better.

I am against crime, tearing up everyone's property (but BOA's) (kidding), hitting people, (not really kidding about BOA) obstructing traffic, riots, arson, mayhem, refusing to turn right on red and making me wait, applying makeup on the road, etc. All of it. No matter who does it. That blanket condemnation lasts until Easter and I'll re-evaluate based on Biff's conduct.

But why am I supposed to defend everyone that hates Trump? That's an awfully big tent to defend. I have to defend teenagers and college kids? I guess I would respond with, they're doing far, far, far less damage than Biff does on a daily basis. While their actions aren't justified, the outrage is. That's why I have my very own running thread about how awful Biff is, so that you don't have to listen to me bitch about it.

I did worse than anything I saw in those pictures and so did you.

That's my best shot. If anybody hurt people or tore up property they should be prosecuted, regardless of the subjective motivation.
Amen!
 
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PS I've been around the Bay area. It's a dynamic, intellectual and creative hub of the world now. It's also the thievingest place I've ever been. It's not that way everywhere in California or the west coast, but they'll steal the whiskers off your chin around San Fran and Oakland.
 
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Facebook? West coast kid. Microsoft, google, ebay, uber, west coast kids, and disproportionately the from bay area. Crazy, motivated, smart, bitchy, stupid, ambitious, ignorant, neurotic kids do some great things and they do some awful things. Maybe the white kids in the south should get off their ass and do something besides fall in line?
 
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Okay Maga, I've booted up and started through the LIVE UPDATES!! of the breitbart article that Frank posted. I got a few entries in and kind of gave up -- I can't see a wide open riot, although there's a BOA lobby that was plainly damaged. I didn't see anyone gassed per the photo (A chick has her eye closed.) or the guy knocked out in the video (watched a minute in). 3 minutes I'll never get back. Every time. Its on me though, I know better.

I am against crime, tearing up everyone's property (but BOA's) (kidding), hitting people, (not really kidding about BOA) obstructing traffic, riots, arson, mayhem, refusing to turn right on red and making me wait, applying makeup on the road, etc. All of it. No matter who does it. That blanket condemnation lasts until Easter and I'll re-evaluate based on Biff's conduct.

But why am I supposed to defend everyone that hates Trump? That's an awfully big tent to defend. I have to defend teenagers and college kids? I guess I would respond with, they're doing far, far, far less damage than Biff does on a daily basis. While their actions aren't justified, the outrage is. That's why I have my very own running thread about how awful Biff is, so that you don't have to listen to me bitch about it.

I did worse than anything I saw in those pictures and so did you.

That's my best shot. If anybody hurt people or tore up property they should be prosecuted, regardless of the subjective motivation.


Fair enough, but there is an organizational aspect to this that I don't think you are addressing. These same thugs show up everywhere all the time now to stir shit up, intimidate people, tie up traffic and destroy private and public property. Compare these "protests" to the women's march. Plenty to mock and lampoon from the women's march, but other than littering, they didn't destroy property and physically assault people.

These anarchists are not random. They are organized at least loosely, and they are violently oppressing free speech. It's something any American should be able to acknowledge.
 
Fair enough, but there is an organizational aspect to this that I don't think you are addressing. These same thugs show up everywhere all the time now to stir shit up, intimidate people, tie up traffic and destroy private and public property. Compare these "protests" to the women's march. Plenty to mock and lampoon from the women's march, but other than littering, they didn't destroy property and physically assault people.

These anarchists are not random. They are organized at least loosely, and they are violently oppressing free speech. It's something any American should be able to acknowledge.

So? Both sides do it. I posted where O'Keefe was just caught trying to get liberals to do this kind of stuff so he could scream about liberal violence. No outrage. Mosques getting torched? No outrage. Mosque shot up? No outrage. From anyone, on either side. Other than me you don't see anyone posting stuff about those abuses. Fine. But this deal? Sweet mary, light the freedom torch because we wont' stand for it. To the guns!

Stated another way, you don't see liberals on this board clutch their pearls and run over to scream like a bitch every time a conservative does something. You guys and BLM have a patent on it. The constant cries of victimization and alarm, it just gets old listening to it. From both sides. I get the criticisms with snowflakes BECAUSE I'M SO SICK OF CONSERVATIVE SNOWFLAKES.

You say it's the same people over and over. Why so much time and energy on them if they're such a tiny outlier? The discussion and energy is always devoted to the margins with you people. Who gives a shit? In the history of this country with all the violence and political shitassery that's hardly a blip. Biff just told the Mexican President maybe he should invade Mexico and you're focused on some kids in Berkeley. It's insane.
 
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Cliff's notes of all that:

Biff just told the Mexican President maybe he should invade Mexico and you're focused on some kids in Berkeley. It's insane.

I've been on these boards for years and it's #&$*#ing groundhog day with the focus on the extremes. It drives the political narrative, the corporate media, the right media, and this board and it's all irrelevant to me. Watching a few extremists rage over what the other extreme is doing just isn't great political entertainment after years of it. I'm not trying to be a dick, it's just the same. old. shit. The repetition.

And those kids, how many in all were there? And do you know how many hours of dialogue they've triggered? Here we are. They got what they wanted. Don't focus on the extremes.
 
I posted where O'Keefe was just caught trying to get liberals to do this kind of stuff so he could scream about liberal violence.
You posted a short audio clip. He posted several videos. Which one was actually more compelling? Neither got traction except for your hissy fit.
Mosques getting torched?
They've determined the cause of the fire already despite not determining the cause of the fire yet? Or does dumbass liberal conclusion jumping substitute for facts these days?
Mosque shot up?
In CANADA.

You lefties have crossed mouth breathing retarded territory and are full steam toward free range stage 4 retardinoma.
 
West Coast kids and millennial snowflake entitled bitches aren't the same thing...

And Zuckerberg is from New York, Pierre Omidyar is French, Uber's Founder is 40 (far from a kid), Larry Page is from Michigan, Sergey Brin is Russian...

Not sure what a bunch of billionaires, outside of MAYBE Zuckerberg, have to do with a bunch of punk-ass snowflakes protesting through violence...
 
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Why don't you lefties try using the truth in your arguments and you might actually influence an opinion or two.

You've used several falsehoods in your posts. You said O'Keefe was caught trying to get liberals to do violence. Lie. He exposed them with an undercover agent with the intent of exposing their criminal activities and he actually stopped them from doing all their illegal activities to disrupt inauguration celebrations.

You say Trump told the President of Mexico he should invade, you forgot to mention he said it in jest. Makes a pretty big difference.
 
So? Both sides do it. I posted where O'Keefe was just caught trying to get liberals to do this kind of stuff so he could scream about liberal violence. No outrage. Mosques getting torched? No outrage. Mosque shot up? No outrage. From anyone, on either side. Other than me you don't see anyone posting stuff about those abuses. Fine. But this deal? Sweet mary, light the freedom torch because we wont' stand for it. To the guns!

Stated another way, you don't see liberals on this board clutch their pearls and run over to scream like a bitch every time a conservative does something. You guys and BLM have a patent on it. The constant cries of victimization and alarm, it just gets old listening to it. From both sides. I get the criticisms with snowflakes BECAUSE I'M SO SICK OF CONSERVATIVE SNOWFLAKES.

You say it's the same people over and over. Why so much time and energy on them if they're such a tiny outlier? The discussion and energy is always devoted to the margins with you people. Who gives a shit? In the history of this country with all the violence and political shitassery that's hardly a blip. Biff just told the Mexican President maybe he should invade Mexico and you're focused on some kids in Berkeley. It's insane.

Stopped reading at "both sides do it." So much wrong with that.. disappointed.
 
West Coast kids and millennial snowflake entitled bitches aren't the same thing...

And Zuckerberg is from New York, Pierre Omidyar is French, Uber's Founder is 40 (far from a kid), Larry Page is from Michigan, Sergey Brin is Russian...

Not sure what a bunch of billionaires, outside of MAYBE Zuckerberg, have to do with a bunch of punk-ass snowflakes protesting through violence...

Damn, enlist man. This kind of rage and aggression is needed. I sure feel sorry for those snowflakes if you get your hands on them. Are you? Are there any around?

Yes, but they have bay area connections. Google was created in a dorm room at Stanford. Sergey is more from Maryland, but was at Standord with Page.
 
Damn, enlist man. This kind of rage and aggression is needed. I sure feel sorry for those snowflakes if you get your hands on them. Are you? Are there any around?

Yes, but they have bay area connections. Google was created in a dorm room at Stanford. Sergey is more from Maryland, but was at Standord with Page.
Cool story chick...
 
GOP Leaders SILENT after Mass Rioting, Beatings, Violence at Berkeley Campus

Neither McConnell or Paul Ryan have posted anything on their twitter feeds to condemn this continued violence against conservatives and Trump supporters.

They said nothing when these beatings took place last year and they say nothing today.

Their silence is consent.

President Trump is the only Republican leader to defend the conservatives and their constitutional right to assemble.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...tings-violence-conservatives-berkeley-campus/
 
GOP Leaders SILENT after Mass Rioting, Beatings, Violence at Berkeley Campus

Neither McConnell or Paul Ryan have posted anything on their twitter feeds to condemn this continued violence against conservatives and Trump supporters.

They said nothing when these beatings took place last year and they say nothing today.

Their silence is consent.

President Trump is the only Republican leader to defend the conservatives and their constitutional right to assemble.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...tings-violence-conservatives-berkeley-campus/

Trump is a third party corporate raider who just took over the GOP and they still don't know how to handle the reality of it.
 
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Why don't you lefties try using the truth in your arguments and you might actually influence an opinion or two.

You've used several falsehoods in your posts. You said O'Keefe was caught trying to get liberals to do violence. Lie. He exposed them with an undercover agent with the intent of exposing their criminal activities and he actually stopped them from doing all their illegal activities to disrupt inauguration celebrations.

You say Trump told the President of Mexico he should invade, you forgot to mention he said it in jest. Makes a pretty big difference.

You're such a drone.

It's not a lie. You just don't care and you're gonna believe whatever helps your "side," period. No use even debating it -- I can check w alex jones and know exactly your position every time.

GOP Leaders SILENT after Mass Rioting, Beatings, Violence at Berkeley Campus

Neither McConnell or Paul Ryan have posted anything on their twitter feeds to condemn this continued violence against conservatives and Trump supporters.

They said nothing when these beatings took place last year and they say nothing today.

Their silence is consent.

President Trump is the only Republican leader to defend the conservatives and their constitutional right to assemble.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...tings-violence-conservatives-berkeley-campus/

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Why don't you lefties try using the truth in your arguments and you might actually influence an opinion or two.

You've used several falsehoods in your posts. You said O'Keefe was caught trying to get liberals to do violence. Lie. He exposed them with an undercover agent with the intent of exposing their criminal activities and he actually stopped them from doing all their illegal activities to disrupt inauguration celebrations.

You say Trump told the President of Mexico he should invade, you forgot to mention he said it in jest. Makes a pretty big difference.

Probably not a good idea for the President to joke about invading our allies.

Just saying.
 
Probably not a good idea for the President to joke about invading our allies.

Just saying.

Biff joke? I'd like to see him make a funny. Read the Rolling Stone article about him trying to understand humor at his roast. He has no sense of humor. Oh, if he saw a dog get hit by a car he'd laugh but he doesn't have a sense of "humor" like healthy people have.

And I'd really like to see the source for him joking.
 
I'm sorry Sys but your allegation against O'Keefe is total nonsense. Direct me to the proof.

I'll tell you what is provable. O'Keefe has video of people conspiring to disrupt the inauguration and to stop subway trains from delivering people. He delivered that video to the Secret Service and the FBI. If he was trying to bribe someone to commit violent acts so he could get a story I doubt he'd turn over the evidence you say convicts him.
 
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