Bullshit. NIce try again though. How many kids need to be buried before you can get your head out of your ass?
Media coverage of Florida shooting
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Yeah, because the rest of the world has this same problem. Keep denying reality. It suits you well....
Another tired and bullshit statement.
Propose something that would have stopped yesterday.
Better than the nothing of the 6 years since Sandy Hook. Your apathy is pathetic.
Obama had 2 years with a ****ing supermajority in the Senate and a big ass majority in the house and we still have gun crimes. The blood is on his hands. Right?
**** you. Dems had plenty of time to #dosomething and they passed a shitty healthcare bill and stagnated the economy. Why didn’t they stop gun violence?
The real question is how did this nut job get into a school with an AR15? We have all kinds of places that are secured with armed officers/security guards and limited access. Why aren't our schools secured the same way? The pissing match over gun control doesn't address the obvious.
I am an equal opportunity flipper. Anyone on the payroll of the NRA. Anyone lacking the courage to address this issue can go the **** home.
Do basic research. Single point of entry at this school. Armed guard in the school.
Several real issues at play.
We always here the whole “see something say something”. Lots of people said something but it didn’t do anything.
FBI was informed of his social media thread and did nothing. This was before he purchased the gun.
Overall downward trend of society. Dude had an obviously ****ed up upbringing, was bullied at school (maybe the school didn’t do enough?).
School security was obviously piss poor.
But let’s blame guns.
I don’t like anyone on the payroll of anybody. Congress should answer to their constituents only, not NRA, not unions, not Koch’s, and not Soros. We need to rip the power back away from these assholes and make it not worth the money to pay them off.
I looked up the BATF form require for all firearms purchases from federally licensed firearms dealers (Form 4473). I should have reviewed this form prior to posting. It doesn’t ask the purchaser if he is or has been mentally ill. It asks if the purchaser has ever been ADJUDICATED as having a mental illness. I don’t know that to be the case.
Interestingly, the form defines this as any person who has been lawfully declared to be a danger to himself or others. This situation occurs routinely in this country, normally to suiicidal people. Somebody calls the cops because their friend or relative is suicidal. The cops evaluate the situation and maybe they decide to take the person into custody. Instead of taking them to jail, the cops take the detained person to a medical or psychological professional who further assesses the person. At that point, the detained person can be held up to 72 hours to ensure their safety, and longer if necessary after a court hearing.
There is no database entry for this temporary detention scenario, so it won’t show up in any background check. Obviously, I don’t know that this scenario applies to this guy. Even if it does, we will likely never know because of medical privacy laws.
Anyway, the bottom line is that I incorrectly recalled the wording on the federal government form and am setting the record straight.
Tell the kids hiding in a closet for hours that this wasn't about guns... Pathetic.
Wrong @davidallen. Nice try though. Maybe you should use your own basic research advice next time.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...l-florida-school-shooting-20180215-story.html
This dude was going to kill. If he didn’t have a gun, he may have chose his car as a weapon. Has that been done before?
Wrong. Had single point of entry. Safety office MAY have been off campus. Your ego isn't worth defending the murder of children.
Yes because a car and a gun are equally lethal. 20 shots in 10 seconds. God damn it, use your brain. Stop defending this shit.
He didn't own a car. He took an Uber to the school. Pathetic attempt to defend the indefensible.
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Accused gunman Nikolas Cruz, who had been expelled from the school for behavioral problems, arrived on campus about 20 minutes before the school day ended.
That’s the time school officials usually open the gates around campus so students and staff parked in various parking lots, as well as school buses and parents picking up their kids, can get out easily, said Jerry Graziose, the district’s former director of school safety.”
Wrong. Nice try though
I'm assuming you didn't read the article. You are either uninformed or a liar. Either way, shame on you.
Uninformed, or a liar? Which is It?
"Once a person gets onto campus, they have access to a number of classroom buildings, which are often unlocked so that students can easily get to their classes."
Jesus ****ing Christ. I paraphrase the first paragraph for you simpleton. Your ego > the truth.
Nobody is defending it dickhead. What I’m saying is, nothing your side has proposed would have stopped it but it would have infringed on law abiding citizens.
Propose something that would have stopped it...anything. Getting made and screaming that we have to do SOMETHING is the same ****ing thing as doing nothing.
Ahhh, so, liar? Not shocked. The facts are there for you when you decide to get over yourself.
"Once a person gets onto campus, they have access to a number of classroom buildings, which are often unlocked so that students can easily get to their classes."
You’re again wrong and lying...
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“During the day, those areas locked. But when you’re getting ready for kids to leave, all the gates in the different areas have to be unlocked, and it takes a few minutes for the person doing that,” Graziose said.
Once a person gets onto campus, they have access to a number of classroom buildings, which are often unlocked so that students can easily get to their classes.”
If by my side you mean people who think your gun fetish is less important than the lives of children then yep, my team...
I enjoy banter with you. This however isn't banter. This is you putting your ego over and above your humanity.
Bullshit. Explain this in something other than generalities and NRA talking points.
Read @wyomingosualum ’s post. He wasn’t adjudicated. You’re contradicting yourself saying not to blame guns yet not-so-subtly advocating for gun control lol
Carry on
