Yep. Dems rely on the stupidity of the electorate. It's been that way as long as I've been alive.
Mark Levin may be on to something.
- Thread starter MegaPoke
- Start date
I'll give the Russians this, their surgical use of propaganda is either really lucky or really impressive since they let Hillary Win the popular vote. Were they able to target their propaganda to blue collar workers in the rust belt while ignoring the costal elites?
Impressive.
If I were Putin I would have been happy with simply delegitimizing an HRC win by making it close, an actual win for DJT would have been gravy.... A DJT win of the electoral college and a loss in the popular vote - HRC loses AND a delegitimized DJT - that's almost more than you could ever hope for.
I don't think the Russians actually cared all that much who won....as long as the legitimacy of American institutions were bought into question.
I do think they were involved at least peripherally in the hacking. I think they were involved in numerous other hacking efforts of which we don't know the success level.
Flynn resigned, Sessions recused. In my opinion that doesn't fit into a we didn't do anything wrong and we will fight to the death if we are right and didn't do anything wrong narrative.
I think a large, broad, extensive independent (as possible in today's environment) investigation into Russian influence and contact within the political system stretching as far back as the uranium deals if not further is warranted.
At the same time, I fear something like that becoming McCarthyism, a House UnAmerican Activities panel and the new Red Scare too.
It's a dilemma for me.
Let's do a catch and release on Putin. Catch him, let Trump water board him and get to the bottom of this, and release him.
Don't forget about the Israeli elections. We tried to influence that as well.
I will let you apply your Trump friendly parser to this:
"Senator Franken, I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn't have — did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it."
I'm beginning to think Trump's election may have afflicted you with a mental illness. I'm serious.
Q: Did Franken ask Sessions about HIS communications with the Russians?
Q2: Why would Sessions lie about question that wasn't asked? Or better yet, HOW could he possibly lie about a question that wasn't asked?
Senator Sessions responded to a broad question with a very specific assertion. He now admits that assertion was incorrect. Perhaps you should direct your questions to the AG.
I'll put you down as unresponsive.
He wasn't specific AT ALL. It's abundantly clear he answered the question within the long drawn out preface that Franken led with and which Sessions himself referenced.
Put me down as Tardy if it makes you feel better.
Sessions has acknowledged his answer was inaccurate yet you still want to contest the point? You and Don Quixote enjoy yourself....
He forgot.
He wanted to avoid the appearance of impropriety.
He may not have perjured himself, if that is your "legal" point, but he made a mistake at the very least as even he has acknowledged.
I don't have a dog in this fight, just telling you that lies occur all the time without corresponding questions.
The manufactured Jeff Sessions controversy is a circus and not based in reality.
Appearing on MSNBC, Texas Senator Ted Cruz said the meetings with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were a "nothing burger."
"He was simply doing his job," said Cruz, who added that the current manufactured drama is "nothing but political theater."
"If the Russian ambassador had called and asked for a meeting, I amagine I'd have taken the meeting," he said, adding he's met with "6 ambassadors in the last 5 months."
The shadow government of political appointees that are still in office because the Democrats are dragging their feet regarding Trump nominees are going to get exposed and this is going to end up being more egg on the face of an increasingly irrelevant Democratic party.
Appearing on MSNBC, Texas Senator Ted Cruz said the meetings with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were a "nothing burger."
"He was simply doing his job," said Cruz, who added that the current manufactured drama is "nothing but political theater."
"If the Russian ambassador had called and asked for a meeting, I amagine I'd have taken the meeting," he said, adding he's met with "6 ambassadors in the last 5 months."
The shadow government of political appointees that are still in office because the Democrats are dragging their feet regarding Trump nominees are going to get exposed and this is going to end up being more egg on the face of an increasingly irrelevant Democratic party.
On Thursday, Sessions defended those remarks as “honest and correct as I understood it at the time,” though he also said he would “write the Judiciary Committee soon — today or tomorrow — to explain this testimony for the record.” His explanation, he said, was that he was “taken aback” by Franken’s question, which referred to a breaking news story at the time about contacts between Trump surrogates and Russians.
“It struck me very hard, and that’s what I focused my answer on,” he said. “In retrospect, I should have slowed down and said I did meet one Russian official a couple times, and that would be the ambassador.”
I don't see where he said he made a mistake.
“It struck me very hard, and that’s what I focused my answer on,” he said. “In retrospect, I should have slowed down and said I did meet one Russian official a couple times, and that would be the ambassador.”
I don't see where he said he made a mistake.
The Shitlord is on fire today:
Flashback:
Flashback:
Sooo, the news that is now leaking out is that the Obama administration set up the meeting between the Russian ambassador and Jeff Sessions.
The first [meeting] came at a conference on “Global Partners in Diplomacy,” where Sessions was the keynote speaker. Sponsored by the U.S. State Department, The Heritage Foundation, and several other organizations, it was held in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention.
The conference was an educational program for ambassadors invited by the Obama State Department to observe the convention. The Obama State Department handled all of the coordination with ambassadors and their staff, of which there were about 100 at the conference.
Apparently, after Sessions finished speaking, a small group of ambassadors—including the Russian ambassador—approached the senator as he left the stage and thanked him for his remarks. That’s the first “meeting.” And it’s hardly an occasion—much less a venue—in when a conspiracy to “interfere” with the November election could be hatched.
Bottom line, it's neither improper nor illegal for a Senator to meet with foreign envoys.
The first [meeting] came at a conference on “Global Partners in Diplomacy,” where Sessions was the keynote speaker. Sponsored by the U.S. State Department, The Heritage Foundation, and several other organizations, it was held in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention.
The conference was an educational program for ambassadors invited by the Obama State Department to observe the convention. The Obama State Department handled all of the coordination with ambassadors and their staff, of which there were about 100 at the conference.
Apparently, after Sessions finished speaking, a small group of ambassadors—including the Russian ambassador—approached the senator as he left the stage and thanked him for his remarks. That’s the first “meeting.” And it’s hardly an occasion—much less a venue—in when a conspiracy to “interfere” with the November election could be hatched.
Bottom line, it's neither improper nor illegal for a Senator to meet with foreign envoys.
I believe this was the earlier "meeting" in July, which the WaPo added as filler to bolster their nothing story.
I'm glad you brought up McCarthyism because that's exactly what it makes me think of.
You might be right on all the above but Other than leaked emails, what substantively have we seen to suggest anything approaching election tampering?
Propaganda and fake news was a wash at best. Hillary had an unlimited fortune and national/international media carrying water for her.
1. If not for the embarrassing emails, I can't help but wonder how big a light gets shined on "hacking."
2. The emails, not the election were hacked - conflating the two is obvious strategy but thinly connected at best. Maybe the emails changed a few votes but compared to the deplorables comment likely had little real effect.
3. To me, Sessions recusing himself was smart because it disconnects him as an investigator from the campaign and any future fever dream accusation regarding same.
4. Letting Flynn go was a stupid attempt to sacrifice one for the herd, all it did was provide the blueprint for Sessions and Gorka in the interim.
The election losers are butthurt, and Obama is obviously really butthurt. This entire exercise in fake news attests to lots of left-wing loser pain.
Smart people smell a turd. Tax returns. No business in russia but lots of time in russia. Praises Putin. Wtf? Two transylvania wives, rumors are the golden shower stuff is true (piss pics), blackstone, manaforte, manaforte lies. Flynn, flynn lies. Beauregard, Beauregard lies. Russia ukraine russia russia. Why so much contact from the trump team? Why'd manaforte leave? He was paid millions to help putin's puppet??! Jared meeting with them... nsa beside themselves, Obama sounding sirens, maybe you should second guess whether that's really a baby ruth in the bottom of the punch bowl.
Why not release tax returns? Put this to bed? Full transparency. Quit bitching about scrutiny if he cant be transparent.
Wrong.
