Something none of you want to do - it’s Hamas propaganda! But it’s worth investigating in case Hamas’ propaganda is more accurate than Israel’s.
Looking At It From The Other Side Of The Conflict
- Thread starter Ponca Dan
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Exactly. But if you follow the propaganda from one side you should follow it from the other. The author of this piece paints a very bleak picture of the future for both Israel and America. If he’s correct, and I leave that for you to decide, it might be wise to consider it and make corrections to prevent it. Ignoring it may lead to very painful or humiliating unanticipated end.
Is it not comical that he's defending a group of people that murdered 1200 civilians on the basis that Israel didn't perform rape kits on those corpses so there's no hard evidence that they committed 'mass rapes' alongside their 'mass murders'.
No.
Doing that leads someone to post something with every sentence ending in exclamation points.
That’s the aim of the stuff you link.
Yes, I have conducted a thorough investigation and learned that according to the “Medic Criteria” it is gang rape when there are 2 rapists and when the UN Report “mentions” (whatever that means) there was a (singular) gang rape (without specifics) we are treated to conclusive evidence there was SYSTEMATIC (a word you never use even though it is the key word of our debate) mass rape by thousands, or hundreds, or dozens, or maybe it was two attackers, and the accusation of *systematic* rape, flimsy as the evidence is, trumps the known murders of hundreds of innocent people. The murders are not enough to inflame our fury, we must obsess about unproven systematic-ordered-from-above rapes if we’re going to justify the genocide Israel is committing even though we’ll insist it isn’t genocide despite the mountains of evidence that it is, contrary to the paltry evidence of mass *systematic* rape which we accept without qualification. See how much you have taught me! You’re a true learned scholar that has so much knowledge to share. Your wisdom is greatly appreciated.
There you go, defending a terrorist organization over semantics because the IDF was too respectful of the corpses of their dead civilians to run rape kits against them to prove that the apparent rapes (torn clothing, exposed genitalia, bondage marks, etc) were actually rapes. Bravo Dan. You're more sick and depraved than I thought.
Israel killed about 400 of the 1200, so there is that to consider. I had not mentioned anything about rape kits, but now that you bring it up could you please explain what is the purpose of a rape kit, why is it used? Were there any rape kits involved in proving there was mass systematic rape as a weapon of war on Oct 7? If not, why not?
So the brief answer is no, you can't be bothered with facts because your narrative is just too important to you. Rape isn't resistance, Dan, and gang rape meets the literal definition of "systematic." I'm sorry I keep bringing facts into your emotional flailing.
Asking for specific evidence of an accusation that is made by a party with a stake in the result is NOT defending Hamas. If Israel is going to throw around claims of outrageous criminal conduct over and above the *known* criminal act of murder, it should be prepared to prove it. Nothing shown on this board for the last 12 months comes close to reaching that level. Your unadulterated hatred of Hamas, while completely understandable, does not allow you to take shortcuts with the truth.
Sorry, Medic, but “mentioning” a gang rape is not presenting a fact. As they said in the old Wendys commercial; Show me the beef!
If Hamas didn't want to be accused of raping its victims en masse, then maybe they should have taken better care to not bind them, tear their clothing, expose their genitalia, etc. while brutally murdering its 1200+ victims.
