Liberal and Conservative
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Let's turn it around; what would be an equivalent in Pakistan for say:
Jussie Smollet
Gay black man pays his friends to 'beat him' and blame it on the sitting POTUS whose policies he doesn't adhere to.
In America a Conservative is outraged and non-violently continues to seek justice whereas a Lib is cool with a wealthy, connected to other Libs in Chicago, escape justice
What happens in your world ?
Jussie Smollet
Gay black man pays his friends to 'beat him' and blame it on the sitting POTUS whose policies he doesn't adhere to.
In America a Conservative is outraged and non-violently continues to seek justice whereas a Lib is cool with a wealthy, connected to other Libs in Chicago, escape justice
What happens in your world ?
Lol never heard anybody say it before right wing media started saying it recently. You are such a born follower. GIGO. They say it and you're a freaking parrot. No way in hell you didn't hear that from the hive recently. Boo democracy! They literally tell you what to think and you are such a compliant bitch.
Civics 101 was 50 years ago; it's always been a democratic Republic. You must have been sick that week
Another difference of conservative and lib is...
Conservatives are more cautious by nature.
That is we respect nature, especially the wild aspects of nature.
We'd never trust a grizzly bear, tiger or a primate as a trusted friend of the family.
Yet, we continue to hear cases of progressive types, getting gutted, faces eaten off. As they're bleeding out their final thought is..."How could you do this to ME after I took such good care of you?"
Kind of like the Frog and Scorpion tale.
Conservatives are more cautious by nature.
That is we respect nature, especially the wild aspects of nature.
We'd never trust a grizzly bear, tiger or a primate as a trusted friend of the family.
Yet, we continue to hear cases of progressive types, getting gutted, faces eaten off. As they're bleeding out their final thought is..."How could you do this to ME after I took such good care of you?"
Kind of like the Frog and Scorpion tale.
This is a joke right? I’ve heard 8th graders say this to 6th graders 20+ years ago. The sentence was usually spoken by a nerd and started with the word “actually.”
Low iq moment for you, hopefully it’s because you just got out of a los Angeles brothel or free needle clinic.
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You are dumb. I’ve said that since 5th grade social studies. At no point in my adult life have I aver thought I lived in anything but a representative Constitutional republic. You are truly a paranoid moron if you think that’s a right wing concept.
Akkkchoooallly, You are noticing this because the leftist bullshit you consume is pushing the lie that we are a popular vote democracy and need to dump the anachronistic electoral college. You are the definition of a compliant follower, and you are my bitch. Ask anyone.
Exactly.
I thought Ben Franklin settled that with the 2 wolves and a lamb joke.
Buuuuuullshit. I've heard that a half dozen times in the past month and not remotely that frequency befor. It's a white hot incel talking point right now. Good thing we're not a democracy! Wahoo for disproportionate representation! And no, you didn't come up with that out of your ass, you HEARD it somewhere lately and repeated it. Now go follow massah like a sheepdog.
It's a hot topic because we have to explain to dumb ass Dims that fact since your all out assault against the electoral college. If you all shut up about eliminating the EC, we'll stop reminding you that we are a representative republic. Simple concept.
You are a moron. Nothing you just said makes any sense, nor is it remotely true. Your TDS is making you stupid. Sad.
We've officially been a republic since March 4, 1789. The only thing that's new is the sky screeching tantrums you "progressive" window lickers are throwing about it.
There are two sides to the liberal and conservative coin. There is fiscal and there is social. Liberals lean to the left on the political spectrum and tend to be Democrats. Conservatives lean to the right on the political spectrum and tend to be Republicans.
Fiscal liberals believe in government solving the problems of the people and that if people have financial problems that the government should help out. How liberal a person is depends upon what level they thing the government has a role in helping people out financially. A left-wing radical liberal would also be a socialist - the government provides all necessary services for its citizens who cannot provide for themselves. Extreme fiscal liberals believe everyone is entitled to good health care, a home, transportation, a job, and a financial income. Fiscal liberals believe in financial equality and believe the rich should be heavily taxed to help the poor.
Fiscal conservatives believe in small government. This means low taxes, minimal government regulations on business and industry, and less government welfare/entitlement programs. In other words, people should help themselves rather than expect the government to provide it for them. Fiscal conservatives tend to believe that you make your own way. This is also known as Social Darwinism - survival of the fittest. Fiscal conservatives tend to be upper class and business people.
Then you have social liberals and conservatives.
Social liberals believe that people should be free to do what they want, as long as it doesn't harm others. Want to have an abortion? It's your right. Want to do drugs/smoke weed? It's your right. Want to marry someone of the same sex, or a dog, or a horse, or a tree? It's your right.Want to burn the flag or speak out against the government? It's your right. Social liberals tend to be against wars and the military. Social liberals are against the death penalty. Social liberals are against free ownership of guns. Social liberals tend to believe that there are too many laws and too many people in jail. Social liberals tend to believe in the saying "live and let live" and "modernity."
Social conservatives believe in high moral standards and law and order. Social conservatives are against legalization of drugs and want stiff penalties for drug dealers. Social conservatives believe in the right to life for unborn children. Social conservatives believe burning the flag and speaking out against wars in unpatriotic. Social conservatives see homosexuality and gay marriage as sinful. Social conservatives are for the death penalty and strict enforcement of laws. Social conservatives believe in a person's right to own a gun. Family values, law and order, God-fearing, patriotic people - those are conservative. Social conservatives tend to be Christians. Social conservatives believe in old fashioned ways and fundamentalism.
There you have it.
Oh, one other thing. You have people who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. They hate that the government take people's money and makes laws on the people. People who fall into this category are libertarians.
Fiscal liberals believe in government solving the problems of the people and that if people have financial problems that the government should help out. How liberal a person is depends upon what level they thing the government has a role in helping people out financially. A left-wing radical liberal would also be a socialist - the government provides all necessary services for its citizens who cannot provide for themselves. Extreme fiscal liberals believe everyone is entitled to good health care, a home, transportation, a job, and a financial income. Fiscal liberals believe in financial equality and believe the rich should be heavily taxed to help the poor.
Fiscal conservatives believe in small government. This means low taxes, minimal government regulations on business and industry, and less government welfare/entitlement programs. In other words, people should help themselves rather than expect the government to provide it for them. Fiscal conservatives tend to believe that you make your own way. This is also known as Social Darwinism - survival of the fittest. Fiscal conservatives tend to be upper class and business people.
Then you have social liberals and conservatives.
Social liberals believe that people should be free to do what they want, as long as it doesn't harm others. Want to have an abortion? It's your right. Want to do drugs/smoke weed? It's your right. Want to marry someone of the same sex, or a dog, or a horse, or a tree? It's your right.Want to burn the flag or speak out against the government? It's your right. Social liberals tend to be against wars and the military. Social liberals are against the death penalty. Social liberals are against free ownership of guns. Social liberals tend to believe that there are too many laws and too many people in jail. Social liberals tend to believe in the saying "live and let live" and "modernity."
Social conservatives believe in high moral standards and law and order. Social conservatives are against legalization of drugs and want stiff penalties for drug dealers. Social conservatives believe in the right to life for unborn children. Social conservatives believe burning the flag and speaking out against wars in unpatriotic. Social conservatives see homosexuality and gay marriage as sinful. Social conservatives are for the death penalty and strict enforcement of laws. Social conservatives believe in a person's right to own a gun. Family values, law and order, God-fearing, patriotic people - those are conservative. Social conservatives tend to be Christians. Social conservatives believe in old fashioned ways and fundamentalism.
There you have it.
Oh, one other thing. You have people who are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. They hate that the government take people's money and makes laws on the people. People who fall into this category are libertarians.
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Sys, you're either:
1. Trolling, or
2. Serious and ignorant of American History.
For your sake, I hope it's just #1. About the dumbest thing I've read on this forum thus far.
Liberals like Sys think conservative ideology is shaped and formed by activists and media. Why does he think this? Because that is how liberal ideology is shaped and formed.
It all comes down to this. Liberals like Sys lack discernment (which is from God). They are missing that component from their circuit. They are told what to think and say. They cannot comprehend the conservative mind. It’s in a dimension they don’t live in, nor can they live in. They are Non-Playable Characters.
It all comes down to this. Liberals like Sys lack discernment (which is from God). They are missing that component from their circuit. They are told what to think and say. They cannot comprehend the conservative mind. It’s in a dimension they don’t live in, nor can they live in. They are Non-Playable Characters.
Superpokes your definitions are similar to what I thought more of the 70s definitions.
But the strange aspect is that people who may call themselves social liberals may not believe in every thing you said and that goes with social conservatives.
I had this baptist friend who went to church on sundays and wednesday did not drink
but smoked weed and some how or the other justified it in his mind and to us. Similarly I had liberal friends who believed in death penalty.
Being patriotic and family values and being christian. I know people who would agree with all aspects of your definition of conservative but are jews or muslims
or athiest.
I think moral values also differ, liberal or conservatives may support helping of the poor because of their christian values.
I guess it is difficult to define liberal or conservative,
Of course it is. There are always shades of grey. I want a government that stays out of my life for the most part. The role of government is to protect me from you and you from me. Not me from myself. Stay out of my billfold and my bedroom. And nobody is entitled to what someone else has earned.
I'm fiscally conservative and socially generally liberal.
It isn't the government's role to take from me in order to give it to someone else.
It isn't the government's role to tell me how to live my life as long as I'm not interfering in other's lives.
Pretty much it.
Solid take. You took way more time than I ever would.
You are right about shades of grey. I remember this couple in whose house you couldn't say damn forget everything else.Church going.The husband did not believe in any entitlements besides social security and medicare and voted for Nixon.
Wife mor religious than him voted for Mcgovern totally believed in all the entitlements
that poor people had. Both of them were against rise in income tax. Where the hell would the govt get the money from.
Nonplayable characters, lol. Ya'll even use the same projection nomenclature that you're taught from right wing media. Same projection. Same verbiage. Same talking point. Mega goes to get a dork incel meme using dork nomenclature. Your responses are comic affirmation of my thesis.
Revenue for running this country was originally intended to come from tariffs charged on trade. It was intended to limit the amount of money needed to run government and therefore the size of government.
I have no idea what "incel" and your affirmation is nothing but confirmation bias. Nothing to be terribly proud of, really.
I'll say this for you, you may be dumb but you are absolutely awesome at embarrassing yourself.
You think anybody with a full set of teeth and educated worldview is embarrassing. Go get some more talking points.
Where intellectual means believing that there are 72 fluid gnders
You have become the simplest caricature of yourself - now resorting to dehumanizing people who share your education from your alma mater, but disagree with you politically as toothless and uneducated.
You've completely lost the ability to argue your point, be funny or make a cogent argument. You have been reduced to angry stereotyping and gaslighting.
Sad as it is, it's gonna get worse for you before it gets better. Lots of bad news coming in the days ahead - so stay hydrated. Get some sleep. And by all means keep asking anything yet and using your silly hashtag #bornfollower - which is a truly sad case of projection.
It's not a matter of general political disagreement. You hear, believe and repeat sophistry and propaganda over and again. I watch it real time. When I've called your attention to it the false nature of your information doesn't jeopardize the source, you celebrate. That shitty behavior gets called for what it is.
Or not giving a shit what someone calls themself. Liberty. Be who you wanna be, make government stay out of personal lives, etc.
Did they get Biff yet?
How is your list of things that Biff has done to help Vlad coming along? Got a time frame for its release? You must have at least nonety things on it by now.
No. I do not. And, no. You do not.
What you cannot seem to comprehend is that other intelligent, educated people come to their own conclusions - many times, people come to the SAME conclusions as what you call propaganda, independent of that source. If you have a representative sampling of people watch the same episode of Game of Thrones and ask them independently to analyze it, you are often times going to have a general organic consensus about what they saw, what it means etc.
Politics is the same way.
If I see something in the news, have a thought about it and then see a post that articulates what I already believe (you could say it supports my own existing confirmation bias) I may post it here for one of two reasons. 1. To educate and inform. 2. To piss off back bench losers like you and antagonize you into meltdowns like the one you are hilariously experiencing right now. Sometimes both. Regardless, that doesn't mean I was told what to think. It means I had a thought, came across something that echoed that or articulated it in an unique way and I chose to share it. In your endless arrogance and cognative dissonance, you cannot comprehend a world in both you and I reach independent ideas that we simply see echoed back to us by our information sources instead of the other way around.
I'm going to try this one more time....
Recently leftists have made the electoral college a national debate (because they are scumbag leftists). My reaction to that is not programmed or filtered through propaganda. It's sourced from decades ago when I learned how our political system works. There is no point in my life when I would have ever told you we live in a democracy, because we don't and I'm smart enough to fvcking know that. It's beyond arrogant for a basic bitch like you to suggest that I don't understand the basics of how our representative government is designed to work.
So... you are seeing this "we don't live in a democracy" line all over the place right now, not because we've been programed by propaganda. You are seeing it because we have been educated over a lifetime of experience as adults in a representative Constitutional republic and now suddenly morons and people who "simply don't care" about the Constitution or representation of small red states like Oklahoma are in one unified (propagandized) voice calling for the end of the electoral collage in favor of a popular national vote (democracy). When you know WHY we don't have a popular vote system and know instead, what system we do have, the answer is well... we don't live in a democracy, you arrogant ass.
There have been countless times I've seen a news event, formed an opinion, question or idea about it, only to see it become a headline or talking point of it's own the next day. Can you explain that? Have you ever experienced that? Of course you have. Because even though you are a dipshit, you are a human with human experience and can articulate your own ideas and conclusions on a great number of things without having to be told what to think.
Your huge problem in all this is that you absolutely cannot conceive that people independently conclude the things they do without being told by propagandists what to say and think, because that's how YOU get your own confirmation bias stroked. You actually think that you arrived at your opinions independent of "propoganda" but others didn't. Either we all have been propagandized, or none of us have. You can't have it both ways.
When you call it to my attention, my instinct 100% of the time is to mock and annoy you. It's not really my job to inform you of when I'm posting to piss you off or actually bring information. You entertain me. That's your entire purpose to me.
Having said that, I'm rarely if ever wrong - so your opportunities to actually call me out on "the false nature of my information" is pure fantasy.
You on the other hand have weekly bought into narrative lie after narrative lie with absolute JACK SHIT to show for it. If you ever are right about something I'm wrong about, it'll be the first time.
Explain to me why this isn't an example of you being propagandized (GIGO) and aren't repeating what you've been told to think and say by your programmers in this post.
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