8 to 10? We're talking 500 to 750 grams each. If you can't stack 50 easy you're using the wrong tape.
This leads me to an old joke...
How do you get 100 dead babies into a tupperware bowl?
A blender.
How do you get them back out?
Tortilla chips.
Let’s see what you boys think about this...
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This leads me to an old joke...
How do you get 100 dead babies into a tupperware bowl?
How do you get them back out?
No fetus is going to pay for a stacking room only ticket.
In my day it was a phone booth instead of a Tupperware bowl, and like 1000 babies
That graphic leaves some pretty important stuff out that's definitely germane to this discussion. Here's the 2018 data from the source:
http://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf
The summary...
Out of the 70,083 total abortions, 65,813 (94%) were performed in the 1st trimester, 4268 (6%) were performed in the 2nd trimester, and 2 (0.00003) were performed in the 3rd trimester, both for legitimate reasons.
The difficulty with the breakdown by trimester is that the 2nd trimester covers weeks 12 to 23, with the vast majority of abortions being done by week 20.
What's all a lie?
As Medic has shown ITT, there is a lot of hyperbole being disseminated from the anti-abortion side. A few months ago, there was a lot of talk about a large number of abortions being performed on fully developed babies.
It's pretty clear that very few are actually performed after the first trimester, and much of those are done for legitimate reasons. This is what I would expect. I have a hard time believing that there are many doctors out there who are happy to perform an abortion without considering how far along the pregnancy is or what the reason for the procedure is. It's one thing to be a cold hearted asshole, but these doctors also have to think about putting themselves in legal jeopardy, being bombed/murdered by a fanatic, and the social stigma that goes along with performing such acts. (not to mention health risks to the mother due to performing a later term abortion). Common sense says that the current spate of anti-abortion laws are really only moving the cutoff back from (approximately) 20 weeks to 6 or 8 weeks. I agree that this is a significant change, and will significantly reduce the number of abortions. As I have posted, I'm fine with moving the cutoff. I do think that 6 weeks is ridiculous and understand why the women of this country are up in arms about the Alabama law. Not including stipulations for rape/incest/health of the mother is a non-starter and should be with anyone with a modicum of common sense.
Mine too.
That same responsibility could be applied to a fetus. If so, I think the body autonomy goes out the window.
Responsibility at least in my definition doesn't imply an obligation
My only concern with giving a fetus the right not to be murdered is that this could cause a problem with illegals and the whole “birth-right citizenship.” If the cutoff is 20 weeks then is a 21-week old illegal fetus a citizen when mom crosses the boarder? Or, does she have to be here when she turns 20 weeks prego? If the latter, then where you are born is no longer relevant, correct?
Also, can a mom sue an unwanted fetus for trespassing?
Also too as well, is a man really responsible for sperm after it exits his body, especially given a women isn’t responsible for a fetus growing inside her?
Also, can a mom sue an unwanted fetus for trespassing?
Also too as well, is a man really responsible for sperm after it exits his body, especially given a women isn’t responsible for a fetus growing inside her?
Legal personhood for fetuses is untenable. Even if you are pro life you can agree that the rights of a fetus are limited to life.
