What was his sin?
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ump-rally-should-never-work-in-nba-again.html
The left is insane.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ump-rally-should-never-work-in-nba-again.html
The left is insane.
Kevin McHale will never work in the NBA again
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“Kevin McHale just became the other side of Colin Kaepernick. Hard to see him ever coaching again in the NBA,” one writer added while another said.”
Glass Houses.....throwing stones....all that.
Glass Houses.....throwing stones....all that.
From a private (not government) employer, that is irrelevant.
Also, last time I checked Kevin McHale still had his job.
People who get paid as much as Kaep and McHale usually don't clock in and out of work.
So what?
They’re both exercising speech that their private employer may or may not agree with and may or may not take action against them for.
I think a lot of the current craziness got amped up (like a actual knob dial turning) in 2015 — when public personalities started getting into deep sh*t for disagreeing that Caitlyn Jenner is a hero. (And saying she didn’t deserve that ESPN award)
It was a sudden (and major) shift in the Overton window, in that specific time period, and over that specific story. (Jenner)
The institutional left trialed new tactics for generating conformity on a previously little-discussed issue, used new ways of public shaming (on social media), maintaining thought control, acceptable speech, etc.
When we look back 10 years from now — I truly think we’ll be able to refer to the Caitlyn Jenner story as a specific moment (in 2015) where things in society definitely changed.
When I voted for Obama in 2008, I wouldn’t have thought transgenderism would the the chosen issue eventually used to morph and divide society.
I know better, but I'll play.
So what % of the country is losing sleep over transgenderism?
The issue may be similar but the circumstances are different. One was at the venue where he received his paycheck and the other was not.
Again, so what?
The different circumstance you contend exist are meaningless and irrelevant to the law and ethical questions raised.
Apples and oranges.
Tell me about the heat LeBron caught for publicly attending a Hillary Clinton rally.
First (in 2015) it was having to publicly state Jenner is a hero — or face consequences and shaming.
Then it moved into bathroom wars (Target), gender neutral bathrooms, letting trans men into women’s bathrooms etc.
(It included the gender neutral pronouns etc — something nobody had ever heard of a decade ago)
Around 2016 or so, they introduced children into the trans stuff with trans children appearing on grocery store magazine covers (Nat Geographic etc), articles etc.
By 2017, the NYT was pushing opinion pieces like this:
This is a lot of stuff in only a few years — I contend you can specifically originate it to the Caitlyn Jenner story in 2015 — it was a defining cultural moment.
First (in 2015) it was having to publicly state Jenner is a hero — or face consequences and shaming.
Then it moved into bathroom wars (Target), gender neutral bathrooms, letting trans men into women’s bathrooms etc.
(It included the gender neutral pronouns etc — something nobody had ever heard of a decade ago)
Around 2016 or so, they introduced children into the trans stuff with trans children appearing on grocery store magazine covers (Nat Geographic etc), articles etc.
By 2017, the NYT was pushing opinion pieces like this:
This is a lot of stuff in only a few years — I contend you can specifically originate it to the Caitlyn Jenner story in 2015 — it was a defining cultural moment.
And more nonsense.
I understand though, change is scary.
Not apples and oranges at all. Also, that quote comes from the article you posted.
If a private employer doesn’t like the political acts or conduct or positions their employee takes...it they think keeping them on after they take such acts or make such speech will cost them money in the end...letting them go is perfectly rational, legal, and IMO ethical.
Maybe he's looking for the golden parachute.
He is in Minnesota in the winter.
He is in Minnesota in the winter.
That’s not what I learned in my hr class in plester vs polyone. It’s in Canada so maybe that’s the difference.
It really is amazing that a group (far-left) wears such blinders that they don’t understand their intolerant actions are viewed negatively by with many Americans.
Like I said:
Caitlyn Jenner winning that ESPN award over these guys in 2015 (and other stuff surrounding it) = cultural watershed moment.
It might have even changed America forever.
So Kevin McHale was making political statements while on the job?
Or did he do it on his own time?
I wonder what would happen if Bruce wore a #maga hat????Like I said:
Caitlyn Jenner winning that ESPN award over these guys in 2015 (and other stuff surrounding it) = cultural watershed moment.
It might have even changed America forever.
Maybe read the thread before asking me a question I’ve already answered.
Like I said:
Caitlyn Jenner winning that ESPN award over these guys in 2015 (and other stuff surrounding it) = cultural watershed moment.
It might have even changed America forever.
Like I said...even more nonsense.
I’ve gone from trying to get you to thinking critically about what you parrot to just calling it what it is.
Nonsense.
You allowed to use your platform as a state employee to make political statements because “free speech?”
It absolutely matters.
He can be fired for attending a political event on his own time but it’s absolutely a right of NFL players to use their work platform to make political statements while on the job?
Hypocrisy much?
1. Neither CK nor KM are employed by the state...an important difference when it comes to 1st Amendment issues. And no, I never said that I am allowed to use my platform as a state employee to make political statements because free speech. Of course, I never said CK is allowed to do so without fear of repercussions either. Oddly enough, because I work for the state, I receive more protection for my off the clock, outside of work speech than a employee of a private employer because the 1st Amendment restricts government infringement of free speech, but only the government.
2. You’ve strawmanned a position I have NEVER taken. My consistent position in this thread and elsewhere is that the NFL can fire or not hire CK or any other employee for kneeling if they want and KM employer’s can do the same for attending a political event on his own time if they choose to do so.
So....ZERO....hypocrisy here.
ZERO.
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It’s all good in the hood, brother.
And for further clarification about my personal position...if I employed either CK or KM, I doubt I’d fire either of them for their respective actions that we are discussing.
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Caitlyn Jenner actually did “come out” as a Republican a year or so after winning the ESPN award — she / he actually supported Ted Cruz in 2016!
This is a big reason why the left no longer considers Jenner a hero, or even someone they can use for virtue signaling.
For the left, it’s all about who is useful at that specific moment in time. If an individual leftist breaks any rules — or begins to question any leftist dogma and narratives — they receive zero kindness or “tolerance” from other leftists.
The left sees **all** individuals as disposable — even transgenders and ethnic minorities.
It’s 100% about group identity. Marxism 101.
