Just kicked Chuck Todd's ass on Meet the Press. BTW she is a women.
Kellyanne Conway.....
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It's easy to do.
Past Rs were afraid to upset the media so they got owned. This group doesn't give a shit so it will be a regular occurance.
For 8 years the press submitted their stories to the WH and DNC for approval before publishing them. Trump bypassing them is no different.
You are obviously a misogynist to say that.
You know he won't admit it, but sys is realizing right now that he just called the first female campaign manager in American history a "piece of shit."
Indefensible after march day. Has he learned nothing about respecting women?
#mansplaning
Indefensible after march day. Has he learned nothing about respecting women?
#mansplaning
I get it. She's on your team. It's OK to lie then right?
You ducking the obvious deception of Trump's mouthpieces is epic. And fun.
So will you always be OK with her lying, or only until you don't like her politics?
You ducking the obvious deception of Trump's mouthpieces is epic. And fun.
So will you always be OK with her lying, or only until you don't like her politics?
"You guys have such anti-women pathology I'm starting to understand their point."
Right now, the establishment media is acting a bit like the French taxi industry when it realized it had to compete with Uber.
Holding someone to a common standard - say not overtly lying - isn't misogynistic. Thinking that you are privileged enough to grab a woman when and how you care to however is. A difference I hope you can appreciate.
Since when is coming on to a girl sexual assault? If I grabbed pussy and my hand got moved I went back to second base and started going through my mental Rolodex for the next night. He said they let you do it. That's not assault that's a good time.
Lots of spin. Not much substance. But do you at least understand that focusing on crowd size and the company lines on mysoginy is gonna get your party further and further behind?
I have no party... and please point out the "spin" or alternative facts employed to make a point.
You have no party!? You will deny the liberals two more times before the cock crows...
Social justice without the economic determinism of the current left ... a throwback if you will to the Third Way movement. Or simply socially liberal capitalist...
Early Johnson supporter, reluctant convert to HRC as DJT gathered steam and Johnson proved to be a Doofus....
Social justice is stupid. This country is awesome for anybody who works their ass off starting as a nobody working for minimum wage. If you show up on time do any job and stay off your phone you can have any job your iq allows regardless of your race or gender. Pull your pants up cover up your tattooes ditch the piercings and don't have purple hair. Any business owner interested in profits will promote you so fast your turbin will spin.
When was the last reported mixed race arrest? Serious question.
Please don't use the term homo. it's offensive. I prefer orificely challenged.
I suspect you believe the gov't should be actively involved in social justice and HHH thinks we should all live and let live without active involvement by the gov't?
So if SJW's all got jobs tomorrow and quit being Victorian prudes, we would start "arresting homos" and mixed race couples?
I know you don't really think that.
Oh David Allen you wear me out. Show me on the doll where the white man touched you.
Two tangible examples of state abuse of power as it relates to consensual adult interactions -- use your imagination there are plenty more. Not so long ago this very board was still advocating or defending the Michelle Bachman's of the world and thier moralistic quest to "fix" the gay out of people.
I am ok with the LGBT community as long as they do not rub their life style in my face, just as I do not rub my life style in to theirs.
My question is this, what if a gay person wants someone to "fix" them? Does the gay community find this acceptable or just assume it is the evil right has somehow convinced them they needed to be "fixed"? I just ask this because the women marchers excluded those who were pro-life, is the LBGT community tolerent of true free choice? Be interesting to know.
Not a member of the LGBTQ community- you should ask (insert board handle here).
Typically the "don't rub it in my face" crowd has an expansive definition of what rubbing it in their face means. Do they have your permission to hold hands in public? Kiss?
No problem with that, but I do not want LGBT members telling me or my family what is normal, as I do not tell them. Mind your own business and do not ask for special treatment just because you are part of the LGBT community. I disagree with the hate crime legislation, just prosecute under normal laws. We did not need hate crime legislation, we already had laws in place to handle crime, just enforce them.
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Man, years ago libs were full of it's not the government's place to legislate morality. There was more moral legislation under Obama than history combined.
I didn't know sexual misbehavior was only limited to Republicans. Wake me when he's getting BJ's and having sex in the Oval Office and then lying about it .
I didn't know sexual misbehavior was only limited to Republicans. Wake me when he's getting BJ's and having sex in the Oval Office and then lying about it .
Do you really imagine Trump going around, randomly grabbing their pussies without their consent? But Mega.. the tape...
Yeah, let's look at the transcript.
You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
BUSH: "Whatever you want."
TRUMP: "Grab them by the p****. You can do anything."
I don't recall anyone on this board defending the conversation as being anything other than tacky and boorish. He should've not had this conversation whether he knew it was taped or not. However, since you are still talking about it - let's consider my favorite word - context.
'When you are a star... they LET YOU do anything' - he's not talking about professional interactions or personal interactions, or even typically real life interactions, he's referring to interactions with women who see him as a celebrity. I know this is shocking - but some women are drawn to rich, powerful, famous men, actors, rock stars etc. These women are called groupies. Groupies make themselves available to the "star" and generally hope to be kissed and groped - for starters.
This is a weird world and it's very hard to relate to, so it's easy to glom on to the idea that it's sexual assault because of confirmation bias. You don't like Trump and it doesn't take anything to convince you that he is saying he is grabbing women without their consent.
I'm not defending it - but I am saying from this transcript it is at best unclear that it's against their consent - and most likely it is with perfectly willing women.
Plus, thinking this to be a private conversation - it's pretty clear to me he was big-timing Bush and trying to impress him with likely exaggeration. Again, that's really dumb on his part and utterly pointless. But you really have to WANT this to be sexual assault to believe that's what it is.
I told you I would elaborate more on this, so here goes...
So... I'll tell you this and you can make of it what you will. I am nobody famous but I do have a *little* experience with groupies myself. My band is a KISS tribute band, and we are really good - been doing it for 12 years now. It's my golf game - mainly for fun but we really try to do an accurate show. We do on average about 10-12 shows a year - did a lot more in the early days. We play relatively big shows that draw relatively big crowds. Average crowd for us is 500 - 1000 people I would guess - so small by real rock star standards, but huge by municipal rock star standards. After every show my band does, there are lines of people for photos and believe it or not - autographs - I've signed thousands, which I find hilarious. Depending on the show, it may be a more family friendly show or it may be a little more of an adult audience where women are drinking and losing some inhibition.
These girls are VERY grabby themselves - far more than you would believe. And I've never been asked for consent before one of them grabbed my ass (or more) when posing for pics. That's not one or two times, it's dozens of times and dozens of shows. I've had guys bare their women's breasts for me to spit blood on during the show. I've had women flash their tits and bend over and flash their goods. It is unreal and ridiculous. @Bitter Creek was part of a security detail at one of our shows where there were so many naked girls on stage it was nearly a work hazard, so I've got at least one witness here to what I'm talking about. I *may* have returned the favor on an ass grab with these girls on occasion - never asked permission and never needed to. It wasn't sexual assault - it was fans buying into the illusion, enjoying the show and having fun with the band - some intended to have more fun than others. Plenty of photos to show you I'm not making this up.
My point - I have a tiny little dirty window into what the world of celebrity can be like, and it's not like any other part of my real world, and if you haven't been in that kind of situation it's very hard to relate to. So you can take this as bragging or whatever, but it's a fact. Of course, 20 minutes later after taking the costume and makeup off - I can walk by the same women who were 'assaulting' me and they don't even look at me because I've transformed into a lowly roadie for my own band. Even if they know I was the "Gene" they were posing with just a few minutes earlier, the illusion is gone at that point and so is their interest in me - but imagine what it must be like for someone who is a celebrity 24/7. How many of Trump's celebrity detractors have enjoyed the fruits of their fame with willing groupies? You think Bruce Springstien or Madonna ask for permission before they grab someone's junk? Not if the context of the interaction makes it clear they don't need to.
As the "Celebrity Apprentice" guy doing a TV interview with a celebrity reporter - exactly what the hell kind of interaction do you think he was talking about? Dinner parties at Mara Lago? Board meetings at Trump Tower? Elevator rides with secretaries? Of course not. He was talking about women who want to f*** a famous guy. Boorish, yes. But if you don't consider the likely context on this conversation, you really are just believing fan fiction about the non-consentual nature of the pussy grabs and kissing he's specifically talking about.
Either way - focusing on this kind of thing puts you further in the rear view mirror of the Trump Train. It's a war that was fought and won. Wouldn't surprise me if the pussy hats were his idea. Everyone knows he is a 70 year old billionaire playboy whose love life has been tabloid fodder for 40 years. To suddenly hold him to a higher level of accountability for his past is kind of hilarious. Or should I say, hitlerious?
Serious question @davidallen do you have a pink pussy hat?
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I don't think I'm going to Let you get away with mentioning two
Irrelevant things and then telling me to use my imagination on the rest. What social justice grievances do you have that relate to this decade?
I understand what you are saying. While not a musician, I played rugby, mostly domestically but some international, for 10 years after graduating from college. Probably in the best physical condition ever (including military) during that time. It was not unusual to get my package groped or my butt squeezed numerous times at the after match parties or other times/places. Funny, the wandering hands got more numerous and grabby if I had a black eye or visible scrapes/bruises from a match. Target rich environment. Glad I was single then.
