Jeff Flake....

[Rdcldad]

No idea. They can go "all-in" and prove Ford a liar (thus proving the D's have been unethical in this ordeal), or make a clear statement against sexual assault in some palpable manner (not saying they have to nix BK's confirmation).

imo

mitchell’s questioning of ford was all anyone R or D wanted to see of ford

(ford would not survive nor would she want to participate in the cognitive interview mitchell laid groundwork for)

the clear statement against sexual assault R’s need goes thru flake(w/o appearing weak flake did it)

we have the fbi now involved
at the behest of a retiring senator

the D’s get their afternoon talking point FBI investigation

the scope of said investigation
has been set by potus(who will take the hit giving zero F’s) taking the fbi off the hook

potus gets his nominee

Kav gets his job

 

[Rdcldad]

I think this is primarily revenge for Garland, and that they are hopeful that he will settle on someone more moderate.

D senators aren’t going to get personal or plant a flag on merrick garland

their prize at this point in time is the senate

 

[Been Jammin]

You clearly underestimate the Democrats.

Come on. Assuming the Senate doesn’t flip, and Kav is scuttled, Trump is going to get one more in place. Even if it flips, he will get one more. It is just a question of how conservative/moderate he or she is.

 

[Ostatedchi]

Surely they know that they can’t play these games for two more years.

If they take back the Senate, they surely can and will delay for 2 or 6 years if needed.

 

[CowboyPhil]

I read it.

The Dems are not his peers. The Republicans are. If we was spineless, he would have just toed the party line.

And this is the problem. They are all supposed to be US SENATORS, not Dem or GOP Senators. They are his peers. And they bullied him in a corner/elevator to change his mind. Like I said I'm not opposed to the investigation but we need some people in these positions with a backbone.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/after-...-coons-rock-stars-at-global-citizen-festival/

 

[Medic007]

Come on. Assuming the Senate doesn’t flip, and Kav is scuttled, Trump is going to get one more in place. Even if it flips, he will get one more. It is just a question of how conservative/moderate he or she is.

As I said, you clearly underestimate the Democrats. If they can keep a Trump appointment from happening for the next 2 years, they will.

 

[Been Jammin]

And this is the problem. They are all supposed to be US SENATORS, not Dem or GOP Senators. They are his peers. And they bullied him in a corner/elevator to change his mind. Like I said I'm not opposed to the investigation but we need some people in these positions with a backbone.

I totally agree that very few of them have a backbone. They are all beholden to their party and lobbyists. His lame duck status allows him to do what he thinks is right without letting those things control him.

 

[Been Jammin]

If they take back the Senate, they surely can and will delay for 2 or 6 years if needed.

I don’t think it is possible.

 

[Ostatedchi]

I don’t think it is possible.

Again you clearly underestimate the Democrats.

 

[blbronco]

Do you think the Dems really think it is possible to prevent Trump from appointing another SC judge?

I think this is primarily revenge for Garland, and that they are hopeful that he will settle on someone more moderate.

Surely they know that they can’t play these games for two more years.

Yes. Precedent has been set by the R's blocking Garland. The one-upsmanship is merely, which side can stall longer. In this case, and why I am fine with a narrow scope, how long do you think an FBI investigation can be dragged out? I am truly concerned to see what happens with the next SC appointment, whether with a R or D president/congress.

 

[xplor58]

Actually precedent was set before Garland.... It is tradition that a president in his last year is his last term does not nominate a supreme Court judge.

 

[Headhunter]

If the Dems take the Senate, highly unlikely, they would never bring up a vote on any Trump appointment the SC. Most likely almost all of Trump's nominees for federal judge would never make it out of committee.

 

[my_2cents]

Flake caved to peer pressure by the Dem senators. Thats where he showed his weakness.

This statement sums up what is wrong with our politics today. Reasonableness and compromise labeled as "weakness" by extreme partisians.

If a Republican dares to work with Democrats, he or she is seen as weak or a traitor by many on the right. And vice versa for those on the left. It is absurd.

Flake did the right thing on Friday. He may very well still vote to approve the nomination, but at least he was able to see why there was no need to rush this nomination through after the hearings on Thursday. Flake showed courage. The easy thing would have been to just go along with his fellow Republicans.

 

[Rdcldad]

Flake did the right thing on Friday.

Flake showed courage.

i’m sure there is a plot reserved at arlington

 

[long-duc-dong]

Flake showed courage. The easy thing would have been to just go along with his fellow Republicans.

This is such a load of horse shit. Did you watch his 60 minutes interview? I suggest you watch it before you go sainting this douche bag.

 

[my_2cents]

This is such a load of horse shit. Did you watch his 60 minutes interview? I suggest you watch it before you go sainting this douche bag.

The fact that he has partisians like you angry at him and calling him names illustrates how right his action was.

Like I said, we need more Senators like Flake and Coons. Senators willing to work across party lines.

 

[long-duc-dong]

The fact that he has partisians like you angry at him and calling him names illustrates how right his action was.

Like I said, we need more Senators like Flake and Coons. Senators willing to work across party lines.

So you didn't watch the interview?

 

[CowboyPhil]

Flake caved to peer pressure by the Dem senators. Thats where he showed his weakness. Of course they should all consider Dr Fords testimony as well as Judge Kavanaugh's.

But where he should "man up" is making up his own mind and not allow himself to be cornered by a bunch of other Senators whether they have an R or D next to their name. Senators are supposed to be making decisions in the best interest of our country, not R's, not D's, not women but all Americans. There is too much party first in all of our politics today.

This statement sums up what is wrong with our politics today. Reasonableness and compromise labeled as "weakness" by extreme partisians.

If a Republican dares to work with Democrats, he or she is seen as weak or a traitor by many on the right. And vice versa for those on the left. It is absurd.

Flake did the right thing on Friday. He may very well still vote to approve the nomination, but at least he was able to see why there was no need to rush this nomination through after the hearings on Thursday. Flake showed courage. The easy thing would have been to just go along with his fellow Republicans.

And by your editing of my post, like Harris editing tweets and speeches, shows your extreme partisian, not mine. I'm fine with the investigation. It should have happened in July or August at the latest. However, 1 party decided it better to spring it as a gotcha moment after all of the interviews were completed.

You're looking like the extreme partisian that we've all known you to be, not me.

 

[long-duc-dong]

The words of a courageous man. Wish there were more courageous people like him to do the right thing in congress. He just oozes courage...


Pelley: Senator Flake, you’ve announced that you’re not running for reelection and I wonder, could you have done this, if you were running for re-election?

Flake: No, not a chance.

Pelley: Not a chance?

Flake: No, no.

Pelley: Because politics has become too sharp, too partisan?

Flake: There’s no value to reaching across the aisle. There’s no currency for that anymore. There’s no incentive.

 

[my_2cents]

So you didn't watch the interview?

Yes.

 

[my_2cents]

And by your editing of my post

I didn't edit your post, I quoted your post.

You claimed Flake craved to Dem pressure, thus showing weakness. I disagree with this and posted my opinion of that statement.

 

[my_2cents]

Flake: There’s no value to reaching across the aisle. There’s no currency for that anymore. There’s no incentive.

Bingo.

This statement sums up what is wrong with our politics today. Reasonableness and compromise labeled as "weakness" by extreme partisians.

If a Republican dares to work with Democrats, he or she is seen as weak or a traitor by many on the right. And vice versa for those on the left. It is absurd.

The fact that he has partisians like you angry at him and calling him names illustrates how right his action was.

Like I said, we need more Senators like Flake and Coons. Senators willing to work across party lines.

 

[long-duc-dong]

Bingo.

Conveniently going to avoid the rest of his answers. Typical for a partisan hack like yourself.

 

[CowboyPhil]

You edited the context by truncating the post. You know exactly what you did. You tried to change the meaning of my post making it fit your narrative.

Just own what you did.

 

[my_2cents]

You edited the context by truncating the post.

You statement was very clear. Flake caved to Dem pressure and that showed weakness. Sure, you then ended with the statement "there is too much party first in all of our politics today," yet your statement at the beginning of your post betrayed that line of thinking.

Flake DID go against a party first mentality! And you called that weakness. As another poster called you on as well...

How do you know he didn't make up his own mind based off of information available? You say there is too much "party first" all while being "party first." Flake, whether right or wrong, went against "party first" and made a tough call. I cannot say I disagree with that call, but it was a tough call either way. If someone touched on a certain concern that he had, so be it.

 

[AC_Exotic]

Flake wants to run for President. He thinks there will be value in buddying up to the Dems.