Iran Deal? No way. North Korea Deal? MAGA
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I appreciate the high regard, and it is reciprocated.
However, please know i start at this point from a biased position re: russian collusion, the resistance etc. I think collectively, it's objectively garbage, and i've taken what is probably correctly considered to be a partisan stand against it.
therefore, i often (not always) find trump's assertions against some messengers to be fully warranted. is that a double standard? well, not to me. It is if you are a committed contrarian, which I'm not.
Regardless...
...is an antagonistic whataboutism in my opinion. yeah he does that. sometimes i think it's legit either as an appropriate criticism or as a broader communication tactic. sometimes i think it's unnecessary and silly. really depends on when he does it, to whom and for what purpose.
in this case - UK isn't an elected official which is automatically apples to oranges. he's a voluntary willing participant on a discussion forum - as are you and as am i.
i would expect people participating on this board to discuss BOTH what is put before them and to be able to back up what they put before others.
I always try to back up what i post if asked or challenged and i try not to post things from obviously sketchy sources. Partisan sources, sure - but when they are what they obviously are that should be considered by the reader as to whether they are credible or not. Partisan sources sometimes publish fake news regardless of their brand strength. low level internet analysts sometimes are spot on in their takes even though they aren't exactly Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw or Matt Lauer level name recognition - but then again - those guys are all pretty sketchy in retrospect too...
Point is, there is a ton of information out there and this is a great place to dump interesting things on the table and examine them for credibility to consider or disregard - in all political directions.
Anyway... i think it's chickenshit for UK to spend multiple paragraphs saying he doesn't like the messenger and doesn't like trump while ignoring the message or point being made. I think attacking sources is generally a pretty lazy approach given the context of this board.
this isn't a journalism conference. ideas, rumors and predictions should all flow freely as long as they are sourced, discussed and treated with the intellectual honesty a board full of educated adults should recognize on their own. plus this board is mostly for entertainment and 5 minute shit break discussions. there just isn't time to vet everything that goes on here. I think that's perfectly fine as long as people stick around to back up what they post, as I have.
I would say that just putting a partisan unconfirmed “rumor” is a pretty lazy approach which doesn’t warrant a response beyond noting the fact that it is an unconfirmed rumor from a partisan source. You do that often enough and long enough and you end up like NZ.
It isn’t “whataboutism”. It’s merely pointing out you have a double standard when it comes to tolerance and credence for such behavior based upon who is doing it.
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So, I should keep drinking beer while waiting on confirmation from a non-partisan, verifiable source?
So, I should keep drinking beer while waiting on confirmation from a non-partisan, verifiable source?
One should always keep drinking beer while waiting for anything.
If that’s not the most “liked” post in the history of this website, then you people have some serious self-examination to do.
Lol.
It isn’t, but I’ll own it right after you own your clear double standard.
I imagine that our word salad attempting to explain why some partisan rumors are due more credibility and consideration than those generated by the “resistance” (dismissed out of hand) is even more disappointing to me than my supposed misunderstanding is to you.
if you are defining double standard as me expecting a message board poster (referring to toon specifically here) to answer address a post instead of crying about the source..... as opposed to the POTUS vs CNN and their daily pissing match, then sure. I have a double standard. i think one of them is less wrong than the other. so what? i have no obligation to invalidate what i perceive to be right or wrong in order to justify some noble middle ground idealism.
it's a weird misapplied use of the term double standard (DJT vs toon), imo - but sure.
Yeah, we're still trying to process this...
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