I'm headed for the Nations Christmas Eve...

[Sunburnt Indian]

Land of the Choctaw where my great grandfather from Morgan County, Alabama was assigned. My great grandfather was Cherokee but he claimed "Black Dutch" hoping gov officials would not move him after President Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act of 1830.

I'm glad I don't have to drive on toward Tulsa where the Cherokee are found.

 

[AC2020]

Land of the Choctaw where my great grandfather from Morgan County, Alabama was assigned. My great grandfather was Cherokee but he claimed "Black Dutch" hoping gov officials would not move him after President Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act of 1830.

I'm glad I don't have to drive on toward Tulsa where the Cherokee are found.

My great grandmother claimed she was black Dutch. I went around half my life repeating that line before I discovered there isn't such a thing!

Turns out I was a part of the tribe all along. Blood, not official.

 

[OUSOONER67]

Same here with the Cherokee Bloodline. My great great grandma was Cherokee.
Knew a guy yrs ago that dated a gorgeous brunette that told us she was Black Irish as told to her by her descendants which then she said was when the Sailing Spainards had unions with Irish Women but there apprears to be no evidence of that and the term Black Irish used in Ireland means Interacial between an Irish Woman and an African male.
It is believed that the story of the black Irish in the US came about to hide interracial sex with African Americans. The term Black Dutch was also used that way in the States as a way to conceal unions between the Dutch and African Americans.

 

[fairdinkem]

My great grandmother claimed she was black Dutch. I went around half my life repeating that line before I discovered there isn't such a thing!

Turns out I was a part of the tribe all along. Blood, not official.

Blazing Saddles classic.

 

[fairdinkem]

Land of the Choctaw where my great grandfather from Morgan County, Alabama was assigned. My great grandfather was Cherokee but he claimed "Black Dutch" hoping gov officials would not move him after President Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act of 1830.

I'm glad I don't have to drive on toward Tulsa where the Cherokee are found.

Good for you SB. Where ultimately will you actually celebrate? Alabama?

I'm part of the Cheyenne Arapaho tribe. The only tribe I hold any envy for is the Comanches because they were better horsemen on a blanket than the cavalry or anyone on a saddle.

We have a house on the river in Matagorda south of the intercoastal. This is the land of the Karankawa. They were great warriors and brutal in a skirmish. They were also cannibals with their foes. The date on the cemetery in Matagorda is 1636.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Same here with the Cherokee Bloodline. My great great grandma was Cherokee.
Knew a guy yrs ago that dated a gorgeous brunette that told us she was Black Irish as told to her by her descendants which then she said was when the Sailing Spainards had unions with Irish Women but there apprears to be no evidence of that and the term Black Irish used in Ireland means Interacial between an Irish Woman and an African male.
It is believed that the story of the black Irish in the US came about to hide interracial sex with African Americans. The term Black Dutch was also used that way in the States as a way to conceal unions between the Dutch and African Americans.

Black Dutch was used by Indians and African Indian mixes in hopes of avoiding the trip to Oklahoma on the Trail Where They Cried, better known as the Trail Of Tears after President Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act of 1830.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Good for you SB. Where ultimately will you actually celebrate? Alabama?

I'm part of the Cheyenne Arapaho tribe. The only tribe I hold any envy for is the Comanches because they were better horsemen on a blanket than the cavalry or anyone on a saddle.

We have a house on the river in Matagorda south of the intercoastal. This is the land of the Karankawa. They were great warriors and brutal in a skirmish. They were also cannibals with their foes. The date on the cemetery in Matagorda is 1636.

The Horse People (Comanche) are everything you say. I grew up with the Comanche at the heart of the Comancheria (Fort Sill). It was the Comanch who taught me to never trust a white man with facial hair.

The Nations is my home. What I always remember about Alabama? Ordering a burger to go at DQ and waiting for 22 white people to get served before me.

 

[fairdinkem]

The Horse People (Comanche) are everything you say. I grew up with the Comanche at the heart of the Comancheria (Fort Sill). It was the Comanch who taught me to never trust a white man with facial hair.

The Nations is my home. What I always remember about Alabama? Ordering a burger to go at DQ and waiting for 22 white people to get served before me.

I simply cannot imagine how that would feel. Terrible.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

I simply cannot imagine how that would feel. Terrible.

You may not imagine the respect and admiration I have for my Sooner and Cowboy brothers.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

I'm off to the Choctaw Nation. Thunderstorms are forecast.

 

[AC2020]

Blazing Saddles classic.

What in the world are you talking about?

 

[fairdinkem]

What in the world are you talking about?

Watch the movie. Cleavon Little when Hedley & Taggert are recruiting a mob to wreck Rock Ridge. To wit:

"Hedley Lamarr : I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists."

When Cleavon is caught at registration he claims, and I paraphrase, "Actually, my family is Dutch".

Best I can do for you. Watch the original movie.

 

[wyomingosualum]

I'm off to the Choctaw Nation. Thunderstorms are forecast.

Safe travels!

 

[fatman76]

The Horse People (Comanche) are everything you say. I grew up with the Comanche at the heart of the Comancheria (Fort Sill). It was the Comanch who taught me to never trust a white man with facial hair.

The Nations is my home. What I always remember about Alabama? Ordering a burger to go at DQ and waiting for 22 white people to get served before me.

I’m white. My stepfather suffered from depression and took his own life in 2016.

Most of his adult life he wore a beard.

I was a little emotionally banged up at his funeral. Hadn’t shaved for a week or so. I decided to wear a beard in his memory that day and have not shaved since (with one exception).

I’m sorry you have experienced that type of racism. I grew up in Shawnee, some of my closest friends and football buddies were Native. Probably over 1/3rd of my graduating class.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Merry Christmas to all you homies.