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My condolences to your wife — for driving a Jeep.

- from a two-Wranglers owner.
Did you have problems with them? I bought a new Wrangler in 2011 it was a 2012. Kept it 2 years no issues and traded it in on a new 2014 wrangler which I still have, has 24,000 miles on it now, no issues, knock on wood. My only issue with Jeeps are they have gotten ridiculously expensive. I have heard they have had issues with some newer models but have no intention to trade it in, been paid off since 2016 and with only 24,000 miles it would be dumb to trade it for one that now costs 60,000 plus.
 
Cheapest I can get at my local King Soopers (Kroger) in Longmont is about $0.50 per egg. I’d imagine Costco is cheaper but haven’t checked recently.

Our stupid legislature mandated only cage free eggs can be sold in Colorado so we are just trying to guarantee that low income families only get fatter with more carb loading and less access to affordable protein
 
Did you have problems with them? I bought a new Wrangler in 2011 it was a 2012. Kept it 2 years no issues and traded it in on a new 2014 wrangler which I still have, has 24,000 miles on it now, no issues, knock on wood. My only issue with Jeeps are they have gotten ridiculously expensive. I have heard they have had issues with some newer models but have no intention to trade it in, been paid off since 2016 and with only 24,000 miles it would be dumb to trade it for one that now costs 60,000 plus.
I read an article about Jeep. Some are used for serious off road conditions and are much more likely to have problems.

Wife's Renegade was recalled for excessive oil burn. Stallantis installed a brand new long block for her at 43,000 miles. Now at 62,000 miles her Jeep doesn't burn a drop of oil. Now her Jeep has 62,000 miles with a 19,000 mile engine.

The real key? Preventative maintenance. My like new 2007 Chrysler PT Cruiser has had 2 transaxle services just as the owner manual instructed me. Most PT Cruisers have never spent a minute in the shop getting a transaxle service. Most of the thousands and thousands of PT Cruisers sold by Chrysler are in the junk yard. If people like me had bought all those Cruisers they'ed still be all over the roads.
 
Did you have problems with them? I bought a new Wrangler in 2011 it was a 2012. Kept it 2 years no issues and traded it in on a new 2014 wrangler which I still have, has 24,000 miles on it now, no issues, knock on wood. My only issue with Jeeps are they have gotten ridiculously expensive. I have heard they have had issues with some newer models but have no intention to trade it in, been paid off since 2016 and with only 24,000 miles it would be dumb to trade it for one that now costs 60,000 plus.
Lots of issues with engine internals at higher mileage. Overall Jeep doesn’t use the best metal alloys.

When I was a mechanic a 4 year old jeep came in an exhaust leak. I was poking around and my finger went right through the header pipe.

You couldn’t gift me a Jeep, although I do love how they look.
 
I read an article about Jeep. Some are used for serious off road conditions and are much more likely to have problems.

Wife's Renegade was recalled for excessive oil burn. Stallantis installed a brand new long block for her at 43,000 miles. Now at 62,000 miles her Jeep doesn't burn a drop of oil. Now her Jeep has 62,000 miles with a 19,000 mile engine.

The real key? Preventative maintenance. My like new 2007 Chrysler PT Cruiser has had 2 transaxle services just as the owner manual instructed me. Most PT Cruisers have never spent a minute in the shop getting a transaxle service. Most of the thousands and thousands of PT Cruisers sold by Chrysler are in the junk yard. If people like me had bought all those Cruisers they'ed still be all over the roads.
Honestly that’s the key to owning any car.

Maintenance is WAY cheaper than repairs.
 
Did you have problems with them? I bought a new Wrangler in 2011 it was a 2012. Kept it 2 years no issues and traded it in on a new 2014 wrangler which I still have, has 24,000 miles on it now, no issues, knock on wood. My only issue with Jeeps are they have gotten ridiculously expensive. I have heard they have had issues with some newer models but have no intention to trade it in, been paid off since 2016 and with only 24,000 miles it would be dumb to trade it for one that now costs 60,000 plus.

Both purchased new. I do all my own maintenance and repair work religiously. I want it done right.

2013 JKU Sport with 46,000 miles.

19K miles. Replaced a water pump.

On my 3rd stereo head unit. The Uconnect 130 is a P.O.S.

Other than that, it's been OK, but just now is crossing over into the mileage hell zone.



2014 JKU Rubicon with 130,000 miles.

25K miles. Replaced the radiator.

On my 3rd Auto Climate Control board.

80K miles. The damn oil cooler (under the intake manifold) seals failed. Blew oil everywhere. A very common problem. Since I had the intake manifold off, I replaced the plugs.

115K miles. The damn Pentastar 3.6 tick started. Replaced cam followers and all lifters. A common problem. Don't drive it much if you hear the ticking. If so, you'll tear up the overhead cams.

Unexplained misfire codes. Mostly P0305. Replaced crankshaft position sensor. Easy once you pull the passenger side fender liner out. Replaced PCV valve. Took 3 hours. If Jeep product engineers pulled into my drive that day, they'd all have gotten shot. Replaced coil packs and plugs. I'm hoping it is fixed now.

I know I'm forgetting something. It's a love-hate relationship. I hate the damn Pentastar 3.6.

No more Jeeps for me after these finally tank.
 
Both purchased new. I do all my own maintenance and repair work religiously. I want it done right.

2013 JKU Sport with 46,000 miles.

19K miles. Replaced a water pump.

On my 3rd stereo head unit. The Uconnect 130 is a P.O.S.

Other than that, it's been OK, but just now is crossing over into the mileage hell zone.



2014 JKU Rubicon with 130,000 miles.

25K miles. Replaced the radiator.

On my 3rd Auto Climate Control board.

80K miles. The damn oil cooler (under the intake manifold) seals failed. Blew oil everywhere. A very common problem. Since I had the intake manifold off, I replaced the plugs.

115K miles. The damn Pentastar 3.6 tick started. Replaced cam followers and all lifters. A common problem. Don't drive it much if you hear the ticking. If so, you'll tear up the overhead cams.

Unexplained misfire codes. Mostly P0305. Replaced crankshaft position sensor. Easy once you pull the passenger side fender liner out. Replaced PCV valve. Took 3 hours. If Jeep product engineers pulled into my drive that day, they'd all have gotten shot. Replaced coil packs and plugs. I'm hoping it is fixed now.

I know I'm forgetting something. It's a love-hate relationship. I hate the damn Pentastar 3.6.

No more Jeeps for me after these finally tank.
Damn. Guess I have been lucky knock on wood but mine has very low miles compared to just about any 2014.
I do know tires for them are way too much when you need new ones. 1600 for 4 a couple months back and the morons scratched my rims to hell and back. I get the, "was that like that before you brought it in? " I told him to look at it, its 10 yrs old and looks like the day I drove it off the lot, do you think all 4 rims were scratched before I brought it in?
I can see why you do maintenance yourself.
 
My niece’s husband (former army Blackhawk pilot, former firefighter, now flies for the local ambulance company) built a 1944 Willis jeep from spare parts. For a while, he was an instructor for the army in Alexandria LA, and would fly around the southeast securing the parts, while his trainees fulfilled their flying hours.

The jeep looks like it just rolled off an assembly line, and if you examine it, you can tell that it was designed so that it could be serviced/repaired in the field by soldiers with minimal automotive training. If you raise the hood, a small skinny human can literally stand on the ground on either side of the engine block. It really is that simple in design. For me, the most intriguing aspect is the sliding knob on the frame of the windscreen to manually operate the wipers. My niece did make him install seatbelts, which detracts from the authenticity. She refused to ride in it without them. Tops out at about 40 MPH. Apparently it was designed to haul, not haul ass.
 
Damn. Guess I have been lucky knock on wood but mine has very low miles compared to just about any 2014.
I do know tires for them are way too much when you need new ones. 1600 for 4 a couple months back and the morons scratched my rims to hell and back. I get the, "was that like that before you brought it in? " I told him to look at it, its 10 yrs old and looks like the day I drove it off the lot, do you think all 4 rims were scratched before I brought it in?
I can see why you do maintenance yourself.

I neglected my first set of BF Goodrich Mud-Terrain tires. Neglect caused them to cup badly. Only about 25,000 miles... and they were shot. My second set, 5-tire rotations every 5K without exception. They lasted 65K. I'm 40K miles into my third set now. They still look and ride great. I'll likely go with the KO3's at my next tire change. You are so correct about the $$$$$.
 
I neglected my first set of BF Goodrich Mud-Terrain tires. Neglect caused them to cup badly. Only about 25,000 miles... and they were shot. My second set, 5-tire rotations every 5K without exception. They lasted 65K. I'm 40K miles into my third set now. They still look and ride great. I'll likely go with the KO3's at my next tire change. You are so correct about the $$$$$.
Yea, but that's not just a Jeep thing. All off-road and multi-purpose truck tires have gone through the roof. One of my friends dropped $2600 on new tires for his RAM.
 
My niece’s husband (former army Blackhawk pilot, former firefighter, now flies for the local ambulance company) built a 1944 Willis jeep from spare parts. For a while, he was an instructor for the army in Alexandria LA, and would fly around the southeast securing the parts, while his trainees fulfilled their flying hours.

The jeep looks like it just rolled off an assembly line, and if you examine it, you can tell that it was designed so that it could be serviced/repaired in the field by soldiers with minimal automotive training. If you raise the hood, a small skinny human can literally stand on the ground on either side of the engine block. It really is that simple in design. For me, the most intriguing aspect is the sliding knob on the frame of the windscreen to manually operate the wipers. My niece did make him install seatbelts, which detracts from the authenticity. She refused to ride in it without them. Tops out at about 40 MPH. Apparently it was designed to haul, not haul ass.
I hope he tightened up that steering.
 
Lots of issues with engine internals at higher mileage. Overall Jeep doesn’t use the best metal alloys.

When I was a mechanic a 4 year old jeep came in an exhaust leak. I was poking around and my finger went right through the header pipe.

You couldn’t gift me a Jeep, although I do love how they look.

I learned this just today.
For 2025, the V6 Pentastar piece of crap engine is only available with a manual transmission.
To get an automatic transmission, one must buy the 4 cylinder horrible-piece-of-crap turbo.

Looks like they are purposefully killing the brand.
 
I learned this just today.
For 2025, the V6 Pentastar piece of crap engine is only available with a manual transmission.
To get an automatic transmission, one must buy the 4 cylinder horrible-piece-of-crap turbo.

Looks like they are purposefully killing the brand.
I think I heard that too a while back. I don't mind a manual especially now we are in the sticks. My 2012 was a stick but back then we lived in a cluster**** of daily trafgic so it was a bitch. No traffic out here.
And having a turbo repaired is not cheap. Can run into a few thousand bucks all by itself usually.
You may be right, they may be purposefully killing it for whatever reason. I used to see Jeeps all over the place back when mine was new in 2014 and a couple yrs after. Now I don't see as many. Seeing more Broncos tho and Trucks. Not the Gladiator tho, for the price of a midsized truck with a small bed there are better options for less money or about the same money.
 
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I think I heard that too a while back. I don't mind a manual especially now we are in the sticks. My 2012 was a stick but back then we lived in a cluster**** of daily trafgic so it was a bitch. No traffic out here.
And having a turbo repaired is not cheap. Can run into a few thousand bucks all by itself usually.
You may be right, they may be purposefully killing it for whatever reason. I used to see Jeeps all over the place back when mine was new in 2014 and a couple yrs after. Now I don't see as many. Seeing more Broncos tho and Trucks. Not the Gladiator tho, for the price of a midsized truck with a small bed there are better options for less money or about the same money.

I don't mind a manual transmission either. Notice how we don't call them "trannies" anymore? I wonder why?
 
Only being available in a manual transmission is a serious market-limiter to your potential customer base. When I sold my 350Z years ago, which of course was a 6 speed, the first 3 potential buyers all asked if it was a manual (I guess they couldn't figure out that the term 6spd in the Autotrader ad meant manual) and stated they couldn't drive a stick. And that was 10 years ago. I can't imagine that its gotten any better.
 
Only being available in a manual transmission is a serious market-limiter to your potential customer base. When I sold my 350Z years ago, which of course was a 6 speed, the first 3 potential buyers all asked if it was a manual (I guess they couldn't figure out that the term 6spd in the Autotrader ad meant manual) and stated they couldn't drive a stick. And that was 10 years ago. I can't imagine that its gotten any better.
I doubt many people today know how to drive a stick. I learned to drive a stick when I was about to get my DL in HS. Even had to drive an old Ford PU that belonged to a friend of my Dad's back in 87, it had the shifter on the column. Talk about a mother to drive for the first time. Way less people around today that could do that.
 
I doubt many people today know how to drive a stick. I learned to drive a stick when I was about to get my DL in HS. Even had to drive an old Ford PU that belonged to a friend of my Dad's back in 87, it had the shifter on the column. Talk about a mother to drive for the first time. Way less people around today that could do that.
I just bought a '96 f150 I plan on cosmetically restoring. 4.9l straight six, manual 5 speed overdrive. Motor was rebuilt 1 year ago. Paid $1200, I can haul a frickin house with her. Low end torque.
 
A buddy has a Dodge in line slant 6 with 450,000 miles . Still goin'.
I also have a 94 Dodge Ram 1500 with 54,000 miles on it. My fear is idiot libtards keying Teslas will start keying Dodge vehicles thinking they are Doge. 🤣🤣
Look kids I found a DOGE truck parked next to a Tesla! A 2fer! Get your keys ready!
Never underestimate the stupidity of the tards.
 
Only being available in a manual transmission is a serious market-limiter to your potential customer base. When I sold my 350Z years ago, which of course was a 6 speed, the first 3 potential buyers all asked if it was a manual (I guess they couldn't figure out that the term 6spd in the Autotrader ad meant manual) and stated they couldn't drive a stick. And that was 10 years ago. I can't imagine that its gotten any better.

Manual transmissions = the ultimate anti-theft device in 2025.
 
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Renegade does not have a Jeep engine. Base is Fiat 1.3 4 Turbo. Wife has Chrysler 2.4 Multiair.
Her's is about to get it's 60,000 mile transaxle service. Most Renegades will never see a transaxle service.

Oil is Chrysler Pennz factory fill made from natural gas mashed over 600 times to form a liquid. Shell bought Pennzoil in 2002 and threw the additive Z7 in the dumpster. Pryor to the Shell purchase, I wouldn't use Pennzoil to lubricate a door hinge.
 
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