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Maybe Iowa doesn’t want the established wrestlers on the team to know what Bassett got? They would expect the same ?
Pretty sure they'll find out anyway, and who wants to lie to your teammates? Just another issue with giving big money to one guy, it will create animosity with the team. If iowa think Bo's worth it then I guess it's a moot point.
 
It's all silly. Everyone knows that the other offers were floating around the 500k/per year mark and Bill said it's a money decision. This isn't a hard nut to crack. There have also been other screen shots with Bill that covered many different things including his concerns with Iowa and how DT was going to have to do better money wise. Did we offer him nothing? No. Were the other offers that were around 500K short of what Iowa offered? Yes

Now these screen shots are never going to be for public consumption so people can continue to argue all they want but it's disingenuous imo.
 
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Now these screen shots are never going to be for public consumption so people can continue to argue all they want but it's disingenuous imo.

What's disingenuous is talking about supposed screenshots that no one can see, and the ones who can, can't verify that they're genuine. Since none of the people being negative can give a shred of evidence, I'll lean toward trusting the words from the horse's mouth. From everything I can see, he's a stand-up guy. A lot of people talk about their faith and it doesn't mean anything, but I don't think he's lying about his faith and so I hope he wouldn't openly lie about these things either. He could just as easily decline to discuss details instead of coming out and saying multiple times very clearly that the rumors of his NIL offers are way overstated.
 
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It's all silly. Everyone knows that the other offers were floating around the 500k/per year mark and Bill said it's a money decision. This isn't a hard nut to crack. There have also been other screen shots with Bill that covered many different things including his concerns with Iowa and how DT was going to have to do better money wise. Did we offer him nothing? No. Were the other offers that were around 500K short of what Iowa offered? Yes

Now these screen shots are never going to be for public consumption so people can continue to argue all they want but it's disingenuous imo.
Sorry but who is Bill? Bo’s dad?
 
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What's disingenuous is talking about supposed screenshots that no one can see, and the ones who can, can't verify that they're genuine. Since none of the people being negative can give a shred of evidence, I'll lean toward trusting the words from the horse's mouth. From everything I can see, he's a stand-up guy. A lot of people talk about their faith and it doesn't mean anything, but I don't think he's lying about his faith and so I hope he wouldn't openly lie about these things either. He could just as easily decline to discuss details instead of coming out and saying multiple times very clearly that the rumors of his NIL offers are way overstated.
I'd feel the same way if I was you but I did see the screen shots so I'm just in a different boat. Not mine to share though.
 
I am very excited we signed Ross. He is a tall athletic heavyweight. Everybody gets excited about smaller guys, but there is a ton of competition in those weights. Recruiting the best at the higher weights most often converts to champions or higher placement in a couple of years.
 
I am very excited we signed Ross. He is a tall athletic heavyweight. Everybody gets excited about smaller guys, but there is a ton of competition in those weights. Recruiting the best at the higher weights most often converts to champions or higher placement in a couple of years.
Exactly... And as willie said this morning on his pod... In most years Ross is the #1 P4P. He just happens to be in the same class as Bo and Jax
 
I am very excited we signed Ross. He is a tall athletic heavyweight. Everybody gets excited about smaller guys, but there is a ton of competition in those weights. Recruiting the best at the higher weights most often converts to champions or higher placement in a couple of years.
My thoughts as well. I don't know the numbers, but the amount of blue chip upper weight prospects is probably half the amount of lower weight guys. Just look at high school, most of the upper weights aren't very good wrestlers and that translates to college as well.
 
My thoughts as well. I don't know the numbers, but the amount of blue chip upper weight prospects is probably half the amount of lower weight guys. Just look at high school, most of the upper weights aren't very good wrestlers and that translates to college as well.
And the kid is just a prototype. So long and athletic. He will be able to hang alot of weight and still look a 197 lol
 
From his Rokfin (paywalled) pod? Were there any good bits of info from the pod?
Yes, he went on live this morning. Some good stuff. He didn't talk quite as much about Ross as I had hoped but the Ross announcement is just getting sandwiched between alot of other news.
 
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It's all silly. Everyone knows that the other offers were floating around the 500k/per year mark and Bill said it's a money decision. This isn't a hard nut to crack. There have also been other screen shots with Bill that covered many different things including his concerns with Iowa and how DT was going to have to do better money wise. Did we offer him nothing? No. Were the other offers that were around 500K short of what Iowa offered? Yes

Now these screen shots are never going to be for public consumption so people can continue to argue all they want but it's disingenuous imo.
🤣🤣 Public consumption you act like these screenshots haven't been sent around the wrestling world. It's called narrative you're being told by "your people" what they want you to believe. Not saying I know everything that happens in the wrestling world but I have a good grasp of it. And this narrative that Oklahoma st isn't paying NIL is blatantly false. Once the coaching change happened Oklahoma st got some new "insiders" and they believe anything they're told.
 
Theres that and like I said previously Iowa doesnt like the bad look they get from "buying guys" in general.
You understand that doesn't make them look bad at all. It actually tells all the studs looking to transfer that Iowa will pay you well. You think Iowa cares what the perception is ? They could care a less they're trying to win that's what coaches get paid to do
 
🤣🤣 Public consumption you act like these screenshots haven't been sent around the wrestling world. It's called narrative you're being told by "your people" what they want you to believe. Not saying I know everything that happens in the wrestling world but I have a good grasp of it. And this narrative that Oklahoma st isn't paying NIL is blatantly false. Once the coaching change happened Oklahoma st got some new "insiders" and they believe anything they're told.
You're deflecting. I said that you've seen them. I know they've been passed around. Are you going to post them? Because I'm not.

You know exactly where the screen shots are coming from and it's not from OSU people.
 
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What's disingenuous is talking about supposed screenshots that no one can see, and the ones who can, can't verify that they're genuine. Since none of the people being negative can give a shred of evidence, I'll lean toward trusting the words from the horse's mouth. From everything I can see, he's a stand-up guy. A lot of people talk about their faith and it doesn't mean anything, but I don't think he's lying about his faith and so I hope he wouldn't openly lie about these things either. He could just as easily decline to discuss details instead of coming out and saying multiple times very clearly that the rumors of his NIL offers are way overstated.
But that's doesn't fit people's narrative. Just call him a liar and move on. That's society for you. We love this kid and can't wait to get him and the minute you know you're not getting him he's a liar . Some people should remember this is a sport
 
🤣🤣 Public consumption you act like these screenshots haven't been sent around the wrestling world. It's called narrative you're being told by "your people" what they want you to believe. Not saying I know everything that happens in the wrestling world but I have a good grasp of it. And this narrative that Oklahoma st isn't paying NIL is blatantly false. Once the coaching change happened Oklahoma st got some new "insiders" and they believe anything they're told.
And you keep pushing the straw man... No one is saying that OSU isn't paying people... Who said that? People are saying that the offers aren't comprable... Which is true even though you're caping like crazy for Iowa on this deal.
 
You're deflecting. I said that you've seen them. I know they've been passed around. Are you going to post them? Because I'm not.

You know exactly where the screen shots are coming from and it's not from OSU people.
Not deflecting at all . Always more than 1 side to a story . Just think it's funny we have so many insiders on this story yet most are operating off the same screen shot
 
And you keep pushing the straw man... No one is saying that OSU isn't paying people... Who said that? People are saying that the offers aren't comprable... Which is true even though you're caping like crazy for Iowa on this deal.
I don't care who gets Bo. But you guys think by saying Iowa is paying 5 million is a bad look for Iowa. In reality you guys are helping Iowa by telling the best they will pay more than anyone else. All these rumors are hilarious nobody knows what anyone gets paid NIL wise. And I don't believe Iowa doubles up offers or offered Bo 5 million.
What's Wyatt get ? What about Plott?
 
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Not deflecting at all . Always more than 1 side to a story . Just think it's funny we have so many insiders on this story yet most are operating off the same screen shot
If you're not deflecting then you're purposefully misleading. You know it's not coming from OSU (even though what has come from OSU backs up the numbers per). You also know that there is a pay gap which you parade in one post as "Iowa coaches winning like they are paid to do" and then deny and classify as propaganda in the next.
 
I don't care who gets Bo. But you guys think by saying Iowa is paying 5 million is a bad look for Iowa. In reality you guys are helping Iowa by telling the best they will pay more than anyone else. All these rumors are hilarious nobody knows what anyone gets paid NIL wise. And I don't believe Iowa doubles up offers or offered Bo 5 million.
What's Wyatt get ? What about Plott?
I think the concensus is that it's extremely bad for wrestling... not bad for Iowa.

Now I think it will hurt Iowa in every other negotiation whether its kids that are already studs on their roster or outside the program, but if Bob has enough money that's no problem at all.
 
So Chase you've seen the contract yourself or are you just calling Bo a liar based on rumors? Or let me guess you saw a screenshot saying it's a lot of $
I guess you can say that I am, by using the word "dishonest" I won't disagree that I inferred he was a liar? I don't like to use the word in this instance, but you do you. I have not seen a contract, I will wait until I get subpoenaed before I ask for it. I don't think he is a "liar" or the type of person that lies. I think he has been told how it needs to be perceived by the public. That family is excellent at marketing.

I think the Basset crew are class acts, that is honestly how I feel. I hope it doesn't come out as dishonest and it hurts his ability to give testimony for those seeking Jesus Christ. I 100% believe these are good people involved in the ugly part of the sport the love.
 
I think the concensus is that it's extremely bad for wrestling... not bad for Iowa.

Now I think it will hurt Iowa in every other negotiation whether its kids that are already studs on their roster or outside the program, but if Bob has enough money that's no problem at all.
We could go back and forth all day. What's not good for wrestling is everyone making up #s . Why don't we hear Penn st #s ? It's always Iowa. And people think they don't have the #1 brand. The wrestling community is obsessed with Iowa and the NIL game
 
I don't care who gets Bo. But you guys think by saying Iowa is paying 5 million is a bad look for Iowa. In reality you guys are helping Iowa by telling the best they will pay more than anyone else. All these rumors are hilarious nobody knows what anyone gets paid NIL wise. And I don't believe Iowa doubles up offers or offered Bo 5 million.
What's Wyatt get ? What about Plott?
The last guy always gets the most until checked. Look at every new QB contract in the NFL. Are Dak, Goff and Love better than Mahomes? Or are they the most recent. What Wyatt and Plott got paid prior to Bob blowing the landscape up with his Buchanan payday is irrelevant... They aint making shit comparatively because they came before.
 
We could go back and forth all day. What's not good for wrestling is everyone making up #s . Why don't we hear Penn st #s ? It's always Iowa. And people think they don't have the #1 brand. The wrestling community is obsessed with Iowa and the NIL game
Because Iowa is proud of how much they are paying like you said. PSU and I'm sure DT (to the best of his abilities) will continue to try and downplay it. Iowa can't be proud of how much money they spend on one hand and then play the poor little picked on victim in the other.
 
We could go back and forth all day. What's not good for wrestling is everyone making up #s . Why don't we hear Penn st #s ? It's always Iowa. And people think they don't have the #1 brand. The wrestling community is obsessed with Iowa and the NIL game
Here is all you need to know. About 100% of OSU wrestling fans are ecstatic Bo is picking Iowa and not Penn State. But keeping beating your chest about being the No. 1 brand and everyone's obsession.
 
The last guy always gets the most until checked. Look at every new QB contract in the NFL. Are Dak, Goff and Love better than Mahomes? Or are they the most recent. What Wyatt and Plott got paid prior to Bob blowing the landscape up with his Buchanan payday is irrelevant... They aint making shit comparatively because they came before.
Wyatt deal was done after DT was hired. He talks about DT calling him to recruit him on his Flo interview . He told him he was gonna take a few visits then decide. So his NIL deal was done when DT was the coach
 
Wyatt deal was done after DT was hired. He talks about DT calling him to recruit him on his Flo interview . He told him he was gonna take a few visits then decide. So his NIL deal was done when DT was the coach
I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point. I never said anything about them predating DT or not. I'm saying that every new negotiation gets bigger that the last. I'm also saying that we made a big jump this last spring and summer and Iowa led the jump.
 
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