After OSU got off of suspension, back in ‘92 I think, they won a championship in ‘94. That was a special group. All we need is a special group now. Just my opinion, but I think the remaining puzzle piece is a mindset shift. We have all the other parts.Going to take a major shake up to beat them the next 2-3 years
I hate to say it, I hate PSU, and I can’t stand how everyone holds them in a pedestal. The biggest advantage they have is a HUGE pool of top recruits to draw on, as well as the most recent premier wrestler to coach them. They have what is called a ‘flywheel’ effect. The parts are moving and now all they do is plug in the pieces. We can get there, about as fast or faster than any other team in the country.I’ll lean towards Hate lol. It feels like a rigged game at this point. I did go through and look at the results of every NCAA since ‘09 last night and it’s crazy how close we were at times
Our team has been a bit unlucky with the Ferraris and suchI hate to say it, I hate PSU, and I can’t stand how everyone holds them in a pedestal. The biggest advantage they have is a HUGE pool of top recruits to draw on, as well as the most recent premier wrestler to coach them. They have what is called a ‘flywheel’ effect. The parts are moving and now all they do is plug in the pieces. We can get there, about as fast or faster than any other team in the country.
100% agree. As well as a few guys that were intimidated by the other teams and underperformed in big moments.Our team has been a bit unlucky with the Ferraris and such
I think some of the young guys are a couple big moments away from having it. You can just see Thompson gaining steamWe need that swagger back
Looked at those results in Track. Beau Hickman won @ 144, same weight he was last year. But Ethan Teague won @ 175, up from 157 last season.We competed at Mid America Nationals in Enid our 190 lber Wuru Yinusa placed 3rd as well as our 138 lber Thomas Toteh. Both are jr’s and have potential to wrestle at the next level.
There was a team from Westlake Utah that was outstanding. Top to bottom. They had either the champion or runner up at every weight class from 106 to 157. But I was more impressed with a set of brothers on their team. Both took first. One was a freshman at 126 and the other was a sophomore at 138.
I’m assuming Ethan wrestled up because they had two guys from Tuttle wrestling for 1st at 175. He didn’t look like he was walking around at 175, looked more like 165Looked at those results in Track. Beau Hickman won @ 144, same weight he was last year. But Ethan Teague won @ 175, up from 157 last season.
Did he get that big or was he wrestling up? Looks like he was at least 175.1 at certification time, but that could be his preseason walk-around weight.
I'm sure we did, but just cause we wanted him doesn't mean he wanted us and I might be wrong with this assumption but it's likely we didn't have enough to throw at him to get his interest. It could just be me but I get a sour vibe from the Edmond North guys with regards to OSU. Lots of ranked guys in their recruiting classes and we haven't landed one in a long time. Not sure if its us or them. I believe Derek White was our last starter from Edmond N and he was a transfer from Nebraska.Just watched Kody Routledge interview on OK Wrestle, he didn’t even mention OSU when talking about his college decision. Did we not make a run at him? If not, why? Just curious.
Where that a-hole from Vinita at? Vhsalum
Glad you can be a good sport Harold MeekVinita’s finest still here!!!
Good job on keeping Lockett - had to pull up the Brinks truck - but hey, he’s yours now!
We didntI'm sure we did, but just cause we wanted him doesn't mean he wanted us and I might be wrong with this assumption but it's likely we didn't have enough to throw at him to get his interest. It could just be me but I get a sour vibe from the Edmond North guys with regards to OSU. Lots of ranked guys in their recruiting classes and we haven't landed one in a long time. Not sure if its us or them. I believe Derek White was our last starter from Edmond N and he was a transfer from Nebraska.
WrongGlad you can be a good sport Harold Meek
We didn’t pull up anythingVinita’s finest still here!!!
Good job on keeping Lockett - had to pull up the Brinks truck - but hey, he’s yours now!
You said "Yours" like you're not an OSU fan. Explain yourself!Vinita’s finest still here!!!
Good job on keeping Lockett - had to pull up the Brinks truck - but hey, he’s yours now!
I'm not crazy about Mizzou getting a couple of Bixby guys recently. We don't need them snooping around. At least the Tuttle connection is still strong.It could just be me but I get a sour vibe from the Edmond North guys with regards to OSU. Lots of ranked guys in their recruiting classes and we haven't landed one in a long time.
Come on Blair - it’s ok to tell the truth, john made sure he didn’t get outbid.We didn’t pull up anything
I really am though. LOVE john, and was able to spend some time with him a few years ago. An amazing man who just LOVES wrestling and coachingYou said "Yours" like you're not an OSU fan. Explain yourself!
I feel like we've gotten the Bixby guys we want and needed, Blankenship & Robb. But its understandable why a couple of those guys chose Mizzou over us with probable weight class lineup issues. Only one I'm mad about is Steed.I'm not crazy about Mizzou getting a couple of Bixby guys recently. We don't need them snooping around. At least the Tuttle connection is still strong.
The Steed one does sting. Turned out much better than most thought.I feel like we've gotten the Bixby guys we want and needed, Blankenship & Robb. But its understandable why a couple of those guys chose Mizzou over us with probable weight class lineup issues. Only one I'm mad about is Steed.
The ones in Missouri got would have a hard time ever making our team we wish them wellI'm not crazy about Mizzou getting a couple of Bixby guys recently. We don't need them snooping around. At least the Tuttle connection is still strong.
Not a chance no bank roll on this oneCome on Blair - it’s ok to tell the truth, john made sure he didn’t get outbid.
Teague had surgery this summer, so later getting started. He is not pulling weight this year and just focusing on getting better and lifting.Looked at those results in Track. Beau Hickman won @ 144, same weight he was last year. But Ethan Teague won @ 175, up from 157 last season.
Did he get that big or was he wrestling up? Looks like he was at least 175.1 at certification time, but that could be his preseason walk-around weight.
We’re in the running!
Always appreciate your recruiting insight Blair, care to elaborate? Seems like he’s going to be a middleweight which is the spot in our lineup we appear to be in need, genuinely curiousWe didnt
I agree they’ll have some great training sessions together in the new OSU wrestling facility 😉Lockett is a great pick up for you guys. He's a stud. Looking forward to his battles with Duke and/or Sealy in the coming years.
Thanks, Reslo. It will be fun to watchLockett is a great pick up for you guys. He's a stud. Looking forward to his battles with Duke and/or Sealy in the coming years.
All right, that's a pretty good retort.I agree they’ll have some great training sessions together in the new OSU wrestling facility 😉
Partay 🎉🎉🥳I agree they’ll have some great training sessions together in the new OSU wrestling facility 😉
When we recruit the #1 guys in the country we are recruiting them to start.The rest will have to really improve to ever make the lineup. I’m not saying it can’t happen but the days of recruiting 4-10 guys are for training partners. You want to know why we haven’t won a title in 18 years to many 4-10 the past 3 years is what you have to have to be in the hunt and NIL will make that possible. Just my 2 cents Hope this doesn’t offend anyoneAlways appreciate your recruiting insight Blair, care to elaborate? Seems like he’s going to be a middleweight which is the spot in our lineup we appear to be in need, genuinely curious
I think that every year we need to spend the vast majority of our scholarship money on potential super recruits ( top 10 pound for pound in the Country). Instead of getting an eight man recruiting class ranked from 50 to 150 I would prefer 2 recruits rated in the top 10 in the class. You get the RTC going where we have 10 highly rated post graduate wrestlers everyone will have good workout partners. Fill in with walkons or recruits who get their books paid for. Very few of our wrestlers who have been high All Americans were not star recruits. Also even with the stars you have to be able to pick out who really is the cream of the crop. Who has placed in the top 5 at NCAA's in the last 10 years. Dieringer, Heil, Ferrari, Wittlake, Fix, Lewallen, Weigel, Piccinnini, Brock, Joe Smith, Marsden, Boyd, Crutchmer, Caldwell, Perry, Kindig, Morrison and Gelogaev. Of these Lewallen, Weigel , Marsden, Boyd and Crutchmer were not real blue chip recruits but everyone but Boyd I think were top 40 recruits. But what really stands out is that all of our finalists who score big points were top recruits ( Dieringer, Heil, Fix, Ferrari, Perry and Kindig. Keep getting the super recruits and develop them and we can compete with Penn. St.When we recruit the #1 guys in the country we are recruiting them to start.The rest will have to really improve to ever make the lineup. I’m not saying it can’t happen but the days of recruiting 4-10 guys are for training partners. You want to know why we haven’t won a title in 18 years to many 4-10 the past 3 years is what you have to have to be in the hunt and NIL will make that possible. Just my 2 cents Hope this doesn’t offend anyone
Why don’t you take who’ll come and then let them worry about starting? It seems like we’re handicapping our depthWhen we recruit the #1 guys in the country we are recruiting them to start.The rest will have to really improve to ever make the lineup. I’m not saying it can’t happen but the days of recruiting 4-10 guys are for training partners. You want to know why we haven’t won a title in 18 years to many 4-10 the past 3 years is what you have to have to be in the hunt and NIL will make that possible. Just my 2 cents Hope this doesn’t offend anyone
I bet this kid will be a bad ass
I think that every year we need to spend the vast majority of our scholarship money on potential super recruits ( top 10 pound for pound in the Country). Instead of getting an eight man recruiting class ranked from 50 to 150 I would prefer 2 recruits rated in the top 10 in the class. You get the RTC going where we have 10 highly rated post graduate wrestlers everyone will have good workout partners. Fill in with walkons or recruits who get their books paid for. Very few of our wrestlers who have been high All Americans were not star recruits. Also even with the stars you have to be able to pick out who really is the cream of the crop. Who has paced in the top 5 at NCAA's in the last 10 years. Dieringer, Heil, Ferrari, Wittlake, Fix, Lewallen, Weigel, Piccinnini, Brock, Joe Smith, Marsden, Boyd, Crutchmer, Caldwell, Perry, Kindig, Morrison and Gelogaev. Of these Lewallen, Weigel , Marsden, Boyd and Crutchmer were not real blue chip recruits but everyone but Boyd I think were top 40 recruits. But what really stands out is that all of our finalists who score big points were top recruits ( Dieringer, Heil, Fix, Ferrari, Perry and Kindig. Keep getting the super recruits and develop them and we can compete with Penn. St
You can probably throw in Jordan Oliver to that group
Hindsight is 20/20. It may not have seemed so, but it’s becoming pretty apparent that we may have missed the bus on some pretty good local kids. I’m greedy, I don’t like to see talent leave the stateWhy don’t you take who’ll come and then let them worry about starting? It seems like we’re handicapping our depth
To clarify, I’m not saying we should be filling up on unranked locals. To the contrary, I’m wondering why we dont push to take (as many as possible) potentially great wrestler that has serious interest in OSU? It seems like I see people say things like “we’ve already got Spratley” and that’s a bit concerning. No one should be beyond competition