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This is one of many accounts on Twitter that aggregates and posts state and national polls. Dozens of posts every single day.

Their last post was 3 days ago.

Did all polling in the United States suddenly stop? No polling from states affected by Helene would explain those areas, but the rest of the country?

Nothing?

The only poll I have seen is a national polls from Rasmussen. In that poll, Trump gained TEN POINTS in the last 2 days.

I think all polls are seeing a massive shift for Trump, so they aren't reporting their numbers.
 
This is one of many accounts on Twitter that aggregates and posts state and national polls. Dozens of posts every single day.

Their last post was 3 days ago.

Did all polling in the United States suddenly stop? No polling from states affected by Helene would explain those areas, but the rest of the country?

Nothing?

The only poll I have seen is a national polls from Rasmussen. In that poll, Trump gained TEN POINTS in the last 2 days.

I think all polls are seeing a massive shift for Trump, so they aren't reporting their numbers.
So now you think there is a conspiracy occurring among all the polling organizations.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I don't think I've ever observed someone so beholden to a conspiracy mindset as you are. And that is saying something considering some of the conspiracy nuts who have posted on this board over the years.

I feel sorry for those that must interact with you on a daily basis. I'm sure it is mentally exhausting for them. But perhaps mildly amusing as well lol.
 
So now you think there is a conspiracy occurring among all the polling organizations.
When all the pollsters that had Kamala up go 3-4 days without a new poll less than a month before the election, it's absolutely intentional. No sane person needs to be told this.

That window covered the immediate aftermath of Kamala's horrific handling of Helene. You know how bad it was, I suspect that's why you disappeared from the board at the same time.

They had the polls, they saw how bad it was for Kamala, and didn't publish them. Simple as that.

It's not working. Stark difference between this race and the 2020 race.
 
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When all the pollsters that had Kamala up go 3-4 days without a new poll less than a month before the election, it's absolutely intentional. No sane person needs to be told this.
There have been plenty of polls coming out lately. Your claim that we aren't seeing any polls is false. Which makes your conspiracy theory absurd too.

And stop trying to act like you know what a sane person needs to be told. You did away with your sanity the day you gave Trump complete control of your mind.

That window covered the immediate aftermath of Kamala's horrific handling of Helene. You know how bad it was, I suspect that's why you disappeared from the board at the same time.
Wait a minute. Does Kamala Harris have something to do with hurricanes, or does she have no role in it, like DeSantis claims? Which one is it?🤔

btw, the Biden/Harris administration has handled the aftermath of Helene very well. Something even Republican Governors and Senators have expressed and admitted. Yes, Trump and his propagandists have told their usual lies but his lies have been exposed.

Just because you choose to believe the lies doesn't mean everyone else does, thank goodness.

They had the polls, they saw how bad it was for Kamala, and didn't publish them. Simple as that.
This is just completely false. Stop lying.
 
There have been plenty of polls coming out lately. Your claim that we aren't seeing any polls is false.
We didn't see any polls in the immediate aftermath of Kamala's disastrous Helene response. Polls finally started again in the last day or two. Those are two different events that you are trying to spin as being the same.

btw, the Biden/Harris administration has handled the aftermath of Helene very well.
ROFLMAO! Then tell her to keep doing precisely what she is doing. This Trump supporter absolutely won't complain!

Helene is submerging multiple states, and Kamala is AWOL so she can go on a podcast that teaches millennial women how to give better bl*wjobs. The irony of Kamala picking THAT podcast of all podcasts.

This is just completely false. Stop lying.
It's just common sense. We all know that polls INCREASE as we get closer to the election. During Kamala's horrific response to Helene, almost all polls STOPPED for MULTIPLE DAYS.

The only major poll that came out was Rasmussen. And that poll saw Trump move 10 points in 48 hours.

It's not lying to tell you an inconvenient truth. Al Gore would agree.
 
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We didn't see any polls in the immediate aftermath of Kamala's disastrous Helene response.
The aftermath of Helene was not a disaster for Harris or Biden. Others might let you get away with this lie, but I'm not going to.

And there were polls that came out in the aftermath of Helene. Again, you are just flat out lying.

Helene is submerging multiple states, and Kamala is AWOL so she can go on a podcast that teaches millennial women how to give better bl*wjobs. The irony of Kamala picking THAT podcast of all podcasts.
I live in a state greatly affected by Helene. I know for a fact, a fact, that the Biden/Harris administration has not been AWOL as it relates to Helene. I've also seen and read the lies that you are now repeating. And they are just that, lies and misinformation.

It's just common sense. We all know that polls INCREASE as we get closer to the election.
First, there was and has been no decrease in the polls. Second, in the time period you were referencing, we were still a month out from the election. Not one week.

Seriously man, drop the insane conspiracy theories. And stop believing and spreading lies.
 
Compare her poll numbers to Biden's in the 2020 election. She's losing ground.
I don't believe the data indicates this. I believe a case could also be made that Trump is losing ground, although I'm not prepared to say that either. I think the state of the race has been rather consistent lately, if we are to believe the polls. Which btw, I don't know if we should trust the polls right now.

I also hear this every time I venture over here to this board from you Trump cultists. Sounds more like a hope than a fact from you guys.
 


"Strange lack of high quality new polls"



"No new polls"

The polls were buried cause they were horrific for Kamala. You know it as well as I do.

She's cooked. You know it as well as I do.
lol, now wait a minute. Do you believe Nate Silver now or not? Is Nate always coming around for the libs in crunch time, or no? Which is it?

You sure do contradict yourself a lot.
 
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lol, now wait a minute. Do you believe Nate Silver now or not? Is Nate always coming around for the libs in crunch time, or no? Which is it?

You sure do contradict yourself a lot.
It's Nate confirming you lied about there not being a drop in polls. There was so few new polls he had to stop running his model LOL

She's cooked. You know it as well as I do. You'll feel better if you tell the truth.
 
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It's Nate confirming you lied about there not being a drop in polls.
No he isn't, plus, since when do you believe Nate Silver? You sure were not believing him earlier when you were trying to cast doubts on his model because the model didn't tell you what you want to believe.

Now you believe him? 🤣🤣

It's Nate confirming you lied about there not being a drop in polls. There was so few new polls he had to stop running his model LOL

She's cooked. You know it as well as I do. You'll feel better if you tell the truth.
According to Nate Silver at the moment, she isn't. Trump is. Trump is going to lose.

Do you or do you not believe Nate Silver?
 
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You have to remember you are arguing with a guy that supported and defended Biden up until the Democrat Party told him not to.
Wrong again.

If you recall, I wanted Biden to step aside long before others in the Democratic Party did.

You know this too. No need to be dishonest.
 
Yea OK. SMFH
Come on Bearcat, you know I did. Do I need to quote the posts to you to "remind" you lol.

I was even having discussions with David about hoping Biden wouldn't be the nominee. That is how long ago I was discussing my desire for a new Democratic nominee in 2024.
 
Come on Bearcat, you know I did. Do I need to quote the posts to you to "remind" you lol.

I was even having discussions with David about hoping Biden wouldn't be the nominee. That is how long ago I was discussing my desire for a new Democratic nominee in 2024.
Not how I remember it but feel free to keep up your fairy tale.
 
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Not how I remember it but feel free to keep up your fairy tale.
Fairy tale huh?

Let's go back to a conversation you and I had in October ol2022. This was even before the 2022 midterms. Here is what I told you then about 2024:
btw, I am now firmly in the camp of those Democrats who don't want to see Biden run for re-election.
I am firmly of the belief that we as a nation need fresh faces to vote for in the general election from both parties in 2024. I don't want to see a rerun of Biden/Trump. Biden did the best thing he could do for this country in 2020 by defeating Trump. Biden should be content with the accomplishments he has achieved, he should work the rest of his term to accomplish more without focusing on re-election, and then retire to Delaware knowing he did his job. He should take a lesson from President James Polk.

I'm telling you exactly why I want to see a new Democratic nominee in '24. Of course, as @Been Jammin has noted before about you, I have no illusions you are going to accept the reasoning I am giving you.

Again, those posts are from October 2022. Two years ago. Long before "establishment" Democrats changed their minds about Biden.

Now, you want to keep on lying about this or finally admit what you know is the truth?
 
Come on Bearcat, you know I did. Do I need to quote the posts to you to "remind" you lol.

I was even having discussions with David about hoping Biden wouldn't be the nominee. That is how long ago I was discussing my desire for a new Democratic nominee in 2024.
That's not surprising at all. Is it because Biden wasn't progressive enough for you?
 
I asked him if Kamala would be president a year from now and he wouldnt answer. That tells me all I need to know.
I will answer that when you answer the two questions I asked you if that you keep dodging. Should your refusal to answer these questions tell us all we need to know about your bs?

Once again, . . .

Are you predicting that Trump will win California and New York?

Are you predicting a Reagan 1984 type beat down by Trump? Do you believe such a landslide for Trump could actually happen?
 
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I will answer that when you answer the two questions I asked you if that you keep dodging. Should your refusal to answer these questions tell us all we need to know about your bs?

Once again, . . .

Are you predicting that Trump will win California and New York?

Are you predicting a Reagan 1984 type beat down by Trump? Do you believe such a landslide for Trump could actually happen?
As of today? No, I don't think Trump will win CA and NY. However, if Trump schedules two or more rallies in either state, yes, I do think he will win that state.

Will a landslide happen for Trump? That would require a 100% secure election, so no.

Your turn: Will Kamala be the President in October of 2025?
 
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That's not surprising at all. Is it because Biden wasn't progressive enough for you?
No, that wasn't the main reason. President Biden has actually been more progressive as a President (in some ways) than I expected. This is why we didn't see a serious progressive challenger to him in '24 and why leading progressives were supporting him up till he withdrew.

For me, it was because I wanted a new younger nominee. I was worried about Biden's age and it's political impact for '24 all the way back in 2022. Also, I figured if Biden stepped aside, Harris would be the nominee. And I've been a Harris supporter for a long time, and preferred her over Biden.
 
With the MSG rally, Trump will have had at least two rallies in New York. So does this mean you are predicting he will now win New York?
No, I will predict a win for NY, CO or CA if Trump adds two or more rallies in addition to the one he has already scheduled for each.

Notice he still won't commit to Kamala being President a year from now. See he's not stupid, he knows she's cooked.
 
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No, I will predict a win for NY, CO or CA if Trump adds two or more rallies in addition to the one he has already scheduled for each.
What, in your opinion, is it about a second rally after the one he already has scheduled in both states that would assure Trump winning two safe blue states?

Your turn: Will Kamala be the President in October of 2025?
Barring a national tragedy, yes, I believe Harris will be President a year from now.
 
What, in your opinion, is it about a second rally after the one he already has scheduled in both states that would assure Trump winning two safe blue states?
I said two or more for any of the states he's already scheduled a rally for. Not a second one.

Trump is scheduling the rally in Aurora, Coachella and MSG based on his internal data. That data will continue to change, and where he speaks will reflect that. That's why I've always said watch where he speaks, as that tells you where this race is REALLY at. Because his internal data is dictating his schedule.

The states he is speaking at are either the current tossup states, or the states where he is behind but gaining. So according to his data, CA, CO and NY all fall into one of those buckets.

If he adds a rally next weekend to Boulder, then the weekend after that he adds another in Aurora, that tells me he thinks CO is in play, and in that case I would say he will win CO.

Same thing for him adding two more rallies in NY or CA.

If he doesn't schedule another rally in either CA or NY, that tells me that the first rally didn't move the needle as he wanted, so he's not going to go back. Or it could be that one of the other states has tightened so he thinks it's best to go to that state instead.

As I have always said: The states that Trump speaks at in the final 7 days before the election are the true tossup states.
 
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Trump is scheduling the rally in Aurora, Coachella and MSG based on his internal data.
No he isn't. I'm telling you right now, his data is not showing him that he is going to win California and New York. You need to come back to reality and quick if you believe such foolishness.

He is scheduling the MSG rally for ego purposes, and anyone who knows anything about Trump knows this. It, along with the California rally, is also his attempt to get dupes like you believe he has a chance of winning in those states.

Besides being a stupid political move at this point, it is also kinda politically dangerous too. But I know none of this will ever register in your mind.

The states he is speaking at are either the current tossup states, or the states where he is behind but gaining.
False.

NY and California are not tossup states.

Earth to Ghost, come in please.

As I have always said: The states that Trump speaks at in the final 7 days before the election are the true tossup states.
Maybe, depending on how discipline a candidate he is at that point. He hasn't been a discipline candidate so far, so I don't know if this will be true or not the last week of the campaign.

But yes, generally speaking, a disciplined presidential candidate will focus mainly on the tossup states the last week of a campaign.
 
Fairy tale huh?

Let's go back to a conversation you and I had in October ol2022. This was even before the 2022 midterms. Here is what I told you then about 2024:



Again, those posts are from October 2022. Two years ago. Long before "establishment" Democrats changed their minds about Biden.

Now, you want to keep on lying about this or finally admit what you know is the truth?
@2012Bearcat

What, no response all of a sudden?
 
I don't see anything in your post, mind posting it. If I'm wrong I'm more than happy to admit my errors, unlike every person on the left.
Here is the whole post again . . .


Not how I remember it but feel free to keep up your fairy tale.
Fairy tale huh?

Let's go back to a conversation you and I had in October ol2022. This was even before the 2022 midterms. Here is what I told you then about 2024:
btw, I am now firmly in the camp of those Democrats who don't want to see Biden run for re-election.
I am firmly of the belief that we as a nation need fresh faces to vote for in the general election from both parties in 2024. I don't want to see a rerun of Biden/Trump. Biden did the best thing he could do for this country in 2020 by defeating Trump. Biden should be content with the accomplishments he has achieved, he should work the rest of his term to accomplish more without focusing on re-election, and then retire to Delaware knowing he did his job. He should take a lesson from President James Polk.

I'm telling you exactly why I want to see a new Democratic nominee in '24. Of course, as @Been Jammin has noted before about you, I have no illusions you are going to accept the reasoning I am giving you.
Click to expand...
Again, those posts are from October 2022. Two years ago. Long before "establishment" Democrats changed their minds about Biden.

Now, you want to keep on lying about this or finally admit what you know is the truth?
 
He is scheduling the MSG rally for ego purposes, and anyone who knows anything about Trump knows this. It, along with the California rally, is also his attempt to get dupes like you believe he has a chance of winning in those states.
☝🏻so says the guy who doesn’t know anything about anything.

☝🏻triggered again, BTW.
 
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Here is the whole post again . . .



Fairy tale huh?

Let's go back to a conversation you and I had in October ol2022. This was even before the 2022 midterms. Here is what I told you then about 2024:


Again, those posts are from October 2022. Two years ago. Long before "establishment" Democrats changed their minds about Biden.

Now, you want to keep on lying about this or finally admit what you know is the truth?
I told you I would admit when I wrong and if that was your post I am.
 
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