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Hodge Trophy Standings

Wyatt leads so far

 
Wyatt leads so far

Well, Wyatt won the fan vote. Even if you couple Cstar and MMs numbers together. So, Starocci has never won a Hodge? First 5x champ and no Hodge🤦🏼‍♂️. He probably won’t win this year. Bad timing
 
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Has there ever been a coordinated way the media is trying to sway Hodge voting? Every Tom dick and harry is making it public this year trying so hard for Carter. PSU mafia out on full force.
 
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Well, Wyatt won the fan vote. Even if you couple Cstar and MMs numbers together. So, Starocci has never won a Hodge? First 5x champ and no Hodge🤦🏼‍♂️. He probably won’t win this year. Bad timing
Can I just say that I am so tired of hearing about the historic 5th NCAA championship. Does anyone think any of the other 4 time winners would not have won another championship if they had gotten a 5th chance at it?
 
The fan vote is super close. Everyone go vote! Redouble your efforts!
It's 48% to 40%.

I get that a couple years ago, they took career achievements into account, but the fifth championship is overblown and not relevant.

Pat, Cael, Steiber and Dake would've been 7 or more time champs if they were given the opportunity.

It should be Wyatt by a decent margin. It won't be. But it should be.
 
It's 48% to 40%.

I get that a couple years ago, they took career achievements into account, but the fifth championship is overblown and not relevant.

Pat, Cael, Steiber and Dake would've been 7 or more time champs if they were given the opportunity.

It should be Wyatt by a decent margin. It won't be. But it should be.
Correct. I love how the Flo guys keep trying to make this more complicated than it is. They were asking questions like, "What does dominance mean?" Well, do you speak English? It turns out there is a really easy way to calculate who the most dominant wrestler was. It is called a dominance score. And it isn't even close.
 
Willie ripping Pyles on X over his vote for CStar and “eye test” reasoning behind it.
He is right to. I understand why people want to give it to CStar, but there is no fair reading of the Hodge criteria that justifies giving it to him. CStar has a better argument as the greatest college wrestler of all time (which he is not) than he does the 2025 Hodge trophy.
 
He is right to. I understand why people want to give it to CStar, but there is no fair reading of the Hodge criteria that justifies giving it to him. CStar has a better argument as the greatest college wrestler of all time (which he is not) than he does the 2025 Hodge trophy.
Yup!

Not a fan of Pyles any longer. Cael calls his shots and Flo is officially the CNN of NCAA Wrestling.
 
Why MD someone when you can pin him. Look at that PIN numbers, it should be Wyatt. Pinning his way to beat two former NCAA champions, one of them with Olympic Gold, is no small feat.
How many hwts do you see fight off their back? Not very many. Wyatt,Gable, injured Kerk were the only athletic true heavyweights and Kerk was small compared to Wyatt and Gable. 125 and hwt are 2 weights that usually have most wrestlers with parity. You all say messinbrink had 1 or non at his weight but hwt was close to same type weight.
 
How many hwts do you see fight off their back? Not very many. Wyatt,Gable, injured Kerk were the only athletic true heavyweights and Kerk was small compared to Wyatt and Gable. 125 and hwt are 2 weights that usually have most wrestlers with parity. You all say messinbrink had 1 or non at his weight but hwt was close to same type weight.
Where do you get that Kerk was small compared to Wyatt? Wyatt weighed in at 250-something. What does Kerk weigh in at?

As for comparing weight classes, it's widely agreed that 165 was weak. From last year, it lost the best two guys in Carr and O'Toole. Heavyweight lost the 2nd place guy and gained a 2x Hodge winner.
 
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