Here's what a 19-week old "fetus" looks like...
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The emotional argument is not one that choice advocates can win. Heartbreaking on many levels - we had 4 miscarries before our Emily came along.
I asked before though and even in the face of this ask: When it comes to terminating a pregnancy - when does this become OUR decisions vs. HER decision?
BIG you were straight with "at conception" which I can't agree with. Curious where others land on this. I can't accept that personal liberty ends at the moment that a sperm enters an egg (that is if you are the woman).
This post was edited on 3/8 2:21 PM by davidallen
I asked before though and even in the face of this ask: When it comes to terminating a pregnancy - when does this become OUR decisions vs. HER decision?
BIG you were straight with "at conception" which I can't agree with. Curious where others land on this. I can't accept that personal liberty ends at the moment that a sperm enters an egg (that is if you are the woman).
This post was edited on 3/8 2:21 PM by davidallen
It's going to be ok!
There's already been 175,000 + births today worldwide, and there's 7.3 billion people left on the planet (according to the world population counter).
If you're really concerned with not getting your people fix, I suggest visiting Jakarta, Indonesia (metropolitan area population - 30 million).
Jakarta has been rated the world's worst traffic. Check out this Jakarta traffic jam.
The value of life is determined by the space you occupy on both the map and socioeconomic ladder.
Yes, particularly comes to traffic jams in crowded third world countries.
Check this footage of driving around Karachi, Pakistan (metropolitan population - 23 million).
Something tells me you would be a lot less 'pro-life' after several days driving in Karachi .
An interesting fact re Muslims (one of the world's fastest growing groups), is cousin-marriage is allowed, and even encouraged in the Koran.
There have been estimates that in Pakistan's rapidly growing population, more than 50% of births are incestuous (a UK geneticist got called 'racist' for stating this).
Most Islamic countries have incredibly high rates of in-breeding. I don't think the western left's 'defenders against Islamophobia' are aware of this horrifying fact. (most of them don't know sh*t about Muhammed or what's in the Koran)
Life cannot begin without spermatogenesis... is it a crime every time somebody jerks off? Is every menstrual cycle a reason to lament the loss of a potential life? Is birth control premeditated premurder?
1% of abortions are of the rape variety.
Assuming this is true. Much of this thread is pointless.
Abortion is tragic on several levels. But ultimately it's the rights of the aborted US citizen who's rights have been violated.
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Assuming this is true. Much of this thread is pointless.
Abortion is tragic on several levels. But ultimately it's the rights of the aborted US citizen who's rights have been violated.
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My sister's mother in law is a very devout Catholic and owns a pharmacy. She refuses to sell the birth control pill because fertilization will sometimes actually occur with the pill which results, in effect, to an abortion. It's a fairly new policy for her so I'm very interested in how it affects her business. I do not agree with her viewpoint, but I give her mucho respect for putting her money where her mouth, or beliefs, are.
I would generally just say human, rather than citizen but you are correct.
It is the greatest human rights infringement of all time in my not so humble opinion.
Pope Paul VI takes exception to your characterization of these examples as obtuse but you knew that already I am sure...
And yet, we weren't discussing the subject on the basis of religious belief. No Catholic here has suggested we adopt the full Papal position on birth control as U.S. law.
