the fact that we allow the slaughter of these little guys/gals is the greatest social justice issue of our time.
A little human being
A little human being
Here's what a 19-week old "fetus" looks like...
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Hearing the heartbeat at one my wife's very early appointments is something I'll never forget. Long before anything I could make out on a ultrasound, I heard a beating heart. That's enough for me....
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I am 100% pro-life.
It is the greatest infringement upon human rights of all time to not even allow a life to continue to the point of taking a breath of air.
It is the greatest infringement upon human rights of all time to not even allow a life to continue to the point of taking a breath of air.
I only pose this question because I'm truly interested in other peoples responses.
If you had a daughter and she was raped and became pregnant by some sick sob would you still be 100% pro-life?
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That would be hard for me. Now I know ultimately it would be my daughters choice, but that would be a tough one.
The baby in the womb is innocent. Yes it's the result of a horrible act, but that baby hasn't done any harm to anyone.
Can't really argue with any of your answers. I just don't think I could bring some sick mother f'ers offspring into the world.
Hopefully he would be living a hellish existance completely separated from anything good.
On a separate note, while it might be his offspring, that's all it is. Each person is their own person, not belonging to anyone else including the mother.
Is the offspring born "sick" (like it's father)? Or should it be extended the right to distinguish itself?
*Asking to continue unfolding this thread. No attacking whatsoever. It's a topic that should be approached with gentleness and humility, as opposed to what the fringe's of the political spectrum on this issue demonstrate.
It's not your call.
Maybe some could cope with a daily reminder of the horror of being raped, but that isn't in your realm, and it damn sure isn't a place where absolutes exist.
Maybe some could cope with a daily reminder of the horror of being raped, but that isn't in your realm, and it damn sure isn't a place where absolutes exist.
I am pro-life. Always have been, and after fathering two children I imagine I always will be.
However there are a select few situations, like the widely discussed rape scenario, where I respect the right for a woman to feel opposite of me. It doesn't mean I support the idea of pro-choice in that situation, and if asked I would have no problem voicing my pro-life stance, but I respect the right for the woman to feel differently.
It's the people who have consensual sex, become pregnant and abort that I would not be able to respect their right to feel abortion was the correct path.
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However there are a select few situations, like the widely discussed rape scenario, where I respect the right for a woman to feel opposite of me. It doesn't mean I support the idea of pro-choice in that situation, and if asked I would have no problem voicing my pro-life stance, but I respect the right for the woman to feel differently.
It's the people who have consensual sex, become pregnant and abort that I would not be able to respect their right to feel abortion was the correct path.
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This would always be in the back of my mind. Will this kid grow to be like the father and commit this type of crime as well.
It's always my call as to what I will support. I also fail to see how an abortion will help a woman forget that she was raped.
I fail to see how you can't see that.
Your kid is raped, doesn't want it, you'd try to make her keep it?
That's Isis style parenting.
By the book, baby.
Your kid is raped, doesn't want it, you'd try to make her keep it?
That's Isis style parenting.
By the book, baby.
Bitter, it's just Alpha being Alpha. Until anyone of you is in the position of a loved done being pregnant by any means, expectant or not, your opinion is nothing more than an opinion. Easy to say what you would do until it becomes a reality. Especially when it comes to a grandchild, Alpha.
I respect Alpha's opinion.
My position really comes down to my opinion and one fact.
The fact is, there is no one that knows when life begins.
My opinion is that there is nothing more precious than innocent human life.
My position really comes down to my opinion and one fact.
The fact is, there is no one that knows when life begins.
My opinion is that there is nothing more precious than innocent human life.
All leading Embryologists ( check out any Embryology textbook) write that life begins at conception since human DNA is present. Science is clear on the matter.
Human DNA is also in hair. Is a hair a life?
I appreciate this thread. What I can't understand, and I've never really heard this question answered straight on, is if it's murder, why just chat about it on the internet and have protests? Seems to me like you guys can't have it both ways -- if it's really murder, why don't you act like it's murder? Pro-lifer's reaction just doesn't seem to match the moral gravity of their allegation.
I'm not advocating you guys doing something violent -- I'm suggesting you don't really believe it's a life, or you'd be doing something tangible to stop it.
I appreciate this thread. What I can't understand, and I've never really heard this question answered straight on, is if it's murder, why just chat about it on the internet and have protests? Seems to me like you guys can't have it both ways -- if it's really murder, why don't you act like it's murder? Pro-lifer's reaction just doesn't seem to match the moral gravity of their allegation.
I'm not advocating you guys doing something violent -- I'm suggesting you don't really believe it's a life, or you'd be doing something tangible to stop it.
Sweet, we're moving on to shit I know.
You do know how DNA works right?
You've played with the Punnett squares?
You know that the kid has every chance to look like a little clone of the monster that raped your wife/daughter/mom/grandmother?
Just deal with it honey.
You guys are placing no value on the continued life of your loved one.
You do know how DNA works right?
You've played with the Punnett squares?
You know that the kid has every chance to look like a little clone of the monster that raped your wife/daughter/mom/grandmother?
Just deal with it honey.
You guys are placing no value on the continued life of your loved one.
I was actually going to post something similar to this. I am pro-life, but I can't say that I value the life of a fetus as much as I do a child that has been birthed. I'd like to think that if I knew a place was murdering children every day that I wouldn't allow it to go unchecked.
My parish has a very active outreach to women considering abortion. The parish will provide them with food/shelter/job outreach opportunities if their economic status is prompting them to consider killing their unborn child. The parish will help facilitate the adoption process as well if they choose to keep the kid and give it up for adoption after birth. I don't know what else normal people can do in this regard,
Your first statement is silly. The rest is actually a very good point. I also don't advocate violence, but have remarked, on those occasions when it has occurred in connectin with abortion doctors/clinics, that it is consistent with the beliefs of the guilty attackers.
I suppose we are all (those of us who are pro-life) too comfortable in our lives and have adopted mostly a defeatist attitude about the more or less inevtiable state of abortion laws. I think most of us do our best to change peoples opinons about the issue and probably have donated money to pro-life causes.
I bet some answers would change if you spent some time in the D-Block showers.
Think of a little Crip or Aryan Bro or Latin King popping out of your turd pipe.
Now, love it.
Think of a little Crip or Aryan Bro or Latin King popping out of your turd pipe.
Now, love it.
None. Plenty of people would though.
And, for the record, I'm sympathetic to your viewpoint, at least from the standpoint of it would be a teribel burden for many/most women in that position. I don't agree that it is not anyone else's business (although under current law it obviously isn't). I'm not arrogant enough to say with certainty what I would do if it was one of my own daughters (other than porbably trying to kill the MFer responsible).
