Have I got this right, a Leftist and legit Nationalist Socialist
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You fell for Hitler was trying accomplish.
"The fact that the far-right party contained 'socialist' in the name was a rebranding gambit to draw workers awayfrom communism and into populist nationalism."
Agree 100%. It’s problematic however when the news cycle instantly shifts into blaming Trump and NRA. Then it becomes important to point out that a nazi and a communist are both sociopathic murderers who don’t reflect any of us or any American politician.
The first news I heard on the Dayton shooting was from Trump supportive sites pointing out that the perp there was a leftist Bernie supporter.
Maybe it wasn't your intent, but your response sounds a whole lot like "yeah, but they started it."
And here is basically the "they started it" defense nearly verbatim.
Not to get too binary, but I believe all "sides" play to blame game intentionally because it distracts the masses and avoids all those in power from actually having to having to take any actual action. I think it is a conscious decision to avoid having any real action beyond frothing up the masses.
Uh, no. In the immediate aftermath of El Paso, one side was offering comfort to victims, praise to first responders, and vows of justice for both the perp and the victims. The other side immediately offered blame.
Dems are creating “white nationalist racist” rhetoric and trying to capitalize on it for votes, that is a fact. It IS creating hate. Pointing out actual hypocrisy is important. So, when are you going to call out Dems for ignoring the black on black slaughterhouse in Chicago? When you going to call out Dems for creating an environment that all cops are racist so now they just show up for the body bags in Chicago? Believe it or not for Reps like me that is a humanitarian issue. Seems to me that is a cultural and family issue impacting millions every single day, it is a much bigger problem.
You believe Trump is a white nationalist racist that likes what is happening in those shootings in El Paso? Sorry, but if you believe the white community is just to accept this rhetoric and be silent it just does not work, it resulted in Dems getting more control and to stick to identity politics and it solves nothing.
Reps are more than willing to have a conversation on this, and far past the white nationalist racist rhetoric. Turning the other cheek and being silent makes you guilty by association.
This is not a they started defense, guess your are ok with the Dems spewing this crap. These are the facts, the only motivation on this for the Dems is political gain, they could give a shit about the problem. If they did they would never spew white nationalist racist BS and offer up condolences to the families and work with Reps to solve the problem.
I titled this thread as such to draw in discussion and set up a comtrast. I ended the initial post with "mental illness is..." in order to show the contrast and pivot from that (political blame) framing of the conversation, the framing used by the Left.
Well... they did start it. that's literally my point. Which shooter did you hear about the most? It was probably the El Paso Nazi, because that was the entire MSM conversation most of the time with little if any consideration given to the other guy except by "Trump supportive sites" because who else is going to stand up for him/them? It's a bad idea to cede control of the narrative to Constitution hating leftists who only look at guns and rhetoric as causal factors and none of the other actual contributing factors.
“57 year old former pizza delivery guy” might’ve had other problems.
I heard plenty about both...from both sides...all sides....whatever....in both situations trying to brand and bind the respective shooters to the political enemy.
What I haven’t heard....and doubt I will....is real proposals for actually addressing the issue.
I think we need to make new laws that killing people is wrong.
So you have nothing to add?
Two mass shootings in three days is just what it is, and nothing can or should be done?
Yep, gotta get some dumb asses back into remedial laws of man.
Let's start by enforcing the laws we have.
Again, Chicago happens every single weekend. What are we doing about that?
Step up big boy and tell us all how to fix it if you are so concerned.
Screw you.
I never claimed to have all the answers.
I just want people to have that conversation rather than running immediately to branding exercises.
This place has really become nothing but a bottomless shithole.
LOL. You finger point asking for us to look for solutions and acting above the fray and then say screw you when asked for your ideas on solutions? Hypocrite. You added to making it a shit hole today. You going to preach to others then have some phucking solutions other than to criticize others.
No one else has claimed to know all the answers either.
Uh oh.
That's problematic for the left narrative.
Eh, I was considering the low IQ savants that'd be vulnerable and gullible to fall for that cowflop.
You figured out The Invisible Gorilla yet or are you still catching up on your YouTube backlog?
You call Beetlejuice then bitch about it when he shows. Pitiful. Just pitiful.
This tells me you don't want to answer and you're just here to troll Clinton.
Fascism ideological father was a leftists. It has leftist roots.
To be fair, we have hashed out this multiple times on this board. Just not this time.
Seems to me that nobody is getting at the root cause of these shootings. Some guy murders people for no reason other than to surrender and be taken alive so he can sit back and enjoy all the attention. Or maybe he chooses the suicide by cop route, knowing that he will occupy the front page for weeks.
Sick disgusting pukes. Surely they aren’t born this way. How does it happen?
You obviously can't see past color.
Who is the philosophical founder of fascism?
