Has Zionism Become A Dirty Word?

[Ponca Dan]

It should be considered a dirty word because it is a filthy political ideology, just like every other racist supremacist ideology that has existed.

Do Donald Trump and Kamala Harris identify as 'Zionist'? Here’s what their campaigns told us. - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

In a season of Middle East war and the fraught American politics it has engendered, the term "Zionist" is no longer as straightforward as it was when Joe Biden was growing up.

www.jta.org

 

[2012Bearcat]

What's for breakfast this morning? I'm thinking oatmeal with a piece of avocado toast.

 

[Ponca Dan]

What's for breakfast this morning? I'm thinking oatmeal with a piece of avocado toast.

Bacon, eggs & hash browns. And Zionism is a filthy disgusting racist political ideology, a fact which more people are coming to understand every day as Israel puts it into practice.

 

[2012Bearcat]

Bacon, eggs & hash browns. And Zionism is a filthy disgusting racist political ideology, a fact which more people are coming to understand every day as Israel puts it into practice.

Love me some bacon eggs and hash brown but my favorite is replace the hash brown with pancakes.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Love me some bacon eggs and hash brown but my favorite is replace the hash brown with pancakes.

Pancakes are great. And Zionism remains a filthy disgusting racist political ideology, collectivist to its core, as millions of people are witnessing it play out in real time.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Love me some bacon eggs and hash brown but my favorite is replace the hash brown with pancakes.

Think about it, Bearcat. Why would anyone suddenly become so reluctant to say he is a Zionist? I think it is because people have come to realize that when someone calls himself a Zionist he knows what he's really saying is he's a bigot and racist and white supremacist (because, let's face the fact, only white Israelis get the full benefit of being an Israeli citizen). The Gaza genocide is showing what Zionism stands for, and what it stands for isn't pretty.

 

[Standing_desk_only]

Think about it, Bearcat. Why would anyone suddenly become so reluctant to say he is a Zionist? I think it is because people have come to realize that when someone calls himself a Zionist he knows what he's really saying is he's a bigot and racist and white supremacist (because, let's face the fact, only white Israelis get the full benefit of being an Israeli citizen). The Gaza genocide is showing what Zionism stands for, and what it stands for isn't pretty.

I just assume Zionism is the “safe” word to mask blatant antisemitism by “academics.”

So, yes, when I hear it, I assume it’s going to be derogatory.

 

[Ponca Dan]

I just assume Zionism is the “safe” word to mask blatant antisemitism by “academics.”

So, yes, when I hear it, I assume it’s going to be derogatory.

Nonsense. Zionism is racist purism, plain and simple. The mask has come off in the last 11 months, never to go back on. Calling anti-Zionism anti-Semitism no longer is a scare tactic with any credibility. I wonder if you think Joe Biden considers his Zionism to be derogatory.

 

[Standing_desk_only]

Nonsense. Zionism is racist purism, plain and simple. The mask has come off in the last 11 months, never to go back on. Calling anti-Zionism anti-Semitism no longer is a scare tactic with any credibility. I wonder if you think Joe Biden considers his Zionism to be derogatory.

Biden’s brain isn’t working. I have no concern for anything he says currently.

Same for you. You’ve lost all sense of reality and can’t see you’re only making people less empathetic to your concerns. Your posts are wallpaper.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Biden’s brain isn’t working. I have no concern for anything he says currently.

Same for you. You’ve lost all sense of reality and can’t see you’re only making people less empathetic to your concerns. Your posts are wallpaper.

Think what you want about my posts, at least they make you stop and think. It would be a better discussion if you would show how Zionism is not explicitly racist and supremacist. Or if you agree that it is but find Zionist racism to be acceptable, explain why you think it is.

 

[22LR]

Think what you want about my posts, at least they make you stop and think. It would be a better discussion if you would show how Zionism is not explicitly racist and supremacist. Or if you agree that it is but find Zionist racism to be acceptable, explain why you think it is.

Toilet paper. Used.

 

[Standing_desk_only]

Think what you want about my posts, at least they make you stop and think. It would be a better discussion if you would show how Zionism is not explicitly racist and supremacist. Or if you agree that it is but find Zionist racism to be acceptable, explain why you think it is.

That’s easy. Zionism has zero universally accepted meaning, even amongst Jews.

There’s nothing “explicit” about it.

It’s akin to calling any person that has any sense of patriotism or nationalism a supremacist and/or racist. Which is fine if that’s your world view.

But, none of the above matters because I know there is no “discussion” with someone in your mental state. Nothing you post makes anyone think unless you’re counting “thinking less of you.”

 

[iasooner24]

To OP
Possibly to a fringe of like minded individuals such as yourself sir

 

[2012Bearcat]

I'm hungry what's for lunch?

 

[Ponca Dan]

That’s easy. Zionism has zero universally accepted meaning, even amongst Jews.

There’s nothing “explicit” about it.

It’s akin to calling any person that has any sense of patriotism or nationalism a supremacist and/or racist. Which is fine if that’s your world view.

But, none of the above matters because I know there is no “discussion” with someone in your mental state. Nothing you post makes anyone think unless you’re counting “thinking less of you.”

Your thinking of what comprises the ideology of Zionism is deeply flawed. Understandably so. You don’t want to be seen as advocating racism and white supremacism, and I don’t blame you. As such you feel compelled to make me the target of your argument, not the argument itself. It’s a common fallback position for people uncomfortable with knowing Zionism is a deeply racist political ideology.

 

[Ponca Dan]

To OP
Possibly to a fringe of like minded individuals such as yourself sir

That you make such an uninformed statement is evidence you live in a very small, very safely protected bubble.

 

[Ostatedchi]

The term Zionism is now just a dog whistle for antisemites to hide behind.

 

[Ponca Dan]

The term Zionism is now just a dog whistle for antisemites to hide behind.

That is in error. But it is understandable why someone who would let Zionists murder every Palestinian on the planet without consequence would say that.

 

[iasooner24]

That you make such an uninformed statement is evidence you live in a very small, very safely protected bubble.

Possibly but just an opinion to you and all know what is said about those, respectfully

 

[Ponca Dan]

Possibly but just an opinion to you and all know what is said about those, respectfully

I appreciate the respect, but I have no idea what you just wrote means.

 

[iasooner24]

“Opinions are like assholes, everyone has theirs”