nope lolsurely we can all get behind th nomination of the first female cia director right?
If "OMG SHE IS TOO TOUGH ON TERRORISTS" is their only argument...The anti-American, racist, Marxist-sympathizing DNC opposes her. Sounds like a good pick to me.
If "OMG SHE IS TOO TOUGH ON TERRORISTS" is their only argument...
Give me a freaking break.
Strongly disagree. That generalization is not fair.She should be rejected by every decent human being.
https://www.cato.org/blog/prevent-torture-redux-look-beyond-haspel
She should be rejected by every decent human being.
https://www.cato.org/blog/prevent-torture-redux-look-beyond-haspel
It was there, maybe you weren't paying attention.Where was the outrage of waterboarding under Obama when it lead to the compound where OBL was killed?
Oh, and another question. Who was her supervisor that authorized the waterboarding?
surely we can all get behind th nomination of the first female cia director right?
I say lets make an exception for all cases when we are 99% certain that torture will prevent a 9/11. Otherwise don't torture people.So, let’s say the CIA has someone in captivity that they are 99% certain knows about a pending terrorist attack in the US and they are also a known terrorist. Let’s assume under normal interrogation techniques they would not talk.
So, let’s say it was the 9/11 attack, and let’s say you had family in those Twin Towers.
The whole point is that there is no certainty any of these techniques will save anyone. In a platonic scenario when you know for sure your torture saves lives of course you torture, but we don't live in a platonic world.Anyone that would say they would prefer to not use water boarding or other alternative interrogation techniques to save their loved ones to get them to talk is full of it.
Probably a good idea to keep people this emotional away from the the levers of power.If I had family that died in a terrorist attack and you had a guy in custody that had knowledge and all you did was interview them and did not use alternative interrogation techniques, I would be beyond pissed.
Who is they? Are you saying that we can torture anyone who doesn't wear a uniform?This is phucking war, they cut our heads off for fun. They are also fighting a war without declaration and wearing a uniform to identify themselves which allows you to kill them under current law. No one talks about that.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then we could all torture who ever we liked.All these people questioning this, how their tune would change if it meant their life or lives of their kids and it was real, not some stupid war against the “opposition” party.
Who? How are you certain you are even torturing an actual member of this group?Use alternative interrogation techniques and kill them if needed, it is legal, they are fighting a war without declaration and not identifying themselves which was intended to protect innocent civilians.
Those are going to be good sound bites in election commercials this year.If "OMG SHE IS TOO TOUGH ON TERRORISTS" is their only argument...
Give me a freaking break.
You really think there was some doubt about the affiliation of the very few people who got water thrown in their face?I say lets make an exception for all cases when we are 99% certain that torture will prevent a 9/11. Otherwise don't torture people.So, let’s say the CIA has someone in captivity that they are 99% certain knows about a pending terrorist attack in the US and they are also a known terrorist. Let’s assume under normal interrogation techniques they would not talk.
So, let’s say it was the 9/11 attack, and let’s say you had family in those Twin Towers.
The whole point is that there is no certainty any of these techniques will save anyone. In a platonic scenario when you know for sure your torture saves lives of course you torture, but we don't live in a platonic world.Anyone that would say they would prefer to not use water boarding or other alternative interrogation techniques to save their loved ones to get them to talk is full of it.
Probably a good idea to keep people this emotional away from the the levers of power.If I had family that died in a terrorist attack and you had a guy in custody that had knowledge and all you did was interview them and did not use alternative interrogation techniques, I would be beyond pissed.
Who is they? Are you saying that we can torture anyone who doesn't wear a uniform?This is phucking war, they cut our heads off for fun. They are also fighting a war without declaration and wearing a uniform to identify themselves which allows you to kill them under current law. No one talks about that.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then we could all torture who ever we liked.All these people questioning this, how their tune would change if it meant their life or lives of their kids and it was real, not some stupid war against the “opposition” party.
Who? How are you certain you are even torturing an actual member of this group?Use alternative interrogation techniques and kill them if needed, it is legal, they are fighting a war without declaration and not identifying themselves which was intended to protect innocent civilians.
Ahh yes, that's how we do things here in America, let the government tell us if there is any doubt.You really think there was some doubt about the affiliation of the very few people who got water thrown in their face?
If there search function goes back that far I think you will find that I was against Obama killing anyone without due process.Obama drops a drone bomb on a US citizen and his kid. Not a peep out of the liberal pussies. But make a terrorist uncomfortable to get OBL and it's the biggest moral outrage ever.
Give me a break hypocrites.
wrongI find it amazing that the same people on this thread criticizing her for using torture are the ones who have celebrated the killing of OBL by their Commander-in-Chief, as if the latter ever could have happened without the former.
Ahh yes, that's how we do things here in America, let the government tell us if there is any doubt.
If there search function goes back that far I think you will find that I was against Obama killing anyone without due process.
I can certainly get on boards judging her by her credentials and actions rather than whether she has a vajayjay or a peepee snake.
Is that good enough?
I consider myself king of the liberal pussiesHe was talking about liberal pussies why do you feel the need to respond?
Which part? That OBL's location was identified in part through interrogation techniques that individuals on this thread are now crucifying this lady about, or that libs on this board celebrated OBL's demise as one of Obama's achievements in office?wrong
The torture=dead OBL part.Which part? That OBL's location was identified in part through interrogation techniques that individuals on this thread are now crucifying this lady about, or that libs on this board celebrated OBL's demise as one of Obama's achievements in office?