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Gina Haspel for CIA Director



it sends a message to the world we not airlifting 400M in cash to your sorry terrorist asses when you decide to blow a hole in the uss cole or run planes into buildings

slick willie was too busy getting his cigar smoked to do anything but lob a missle
at bin ladin and miss instead of sending seals in to do the job right thefirst time
 
From the New York Times:

Mr. Mohammed, the principal architect of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, was captured in March 2003 and tortured by the C.I.A. This week, he asked a military judge at Guantánamo Bay for permission to share six paragraphs of information about Ms. Haspel with the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Gee, I wonder if the terrorist behind 9/11 would have a biased opinion of a female CIA Officer who was responsible for literally giving him a new anus?

A new rock bottom for liberal Democrats.

Using a 9/11 architect as a character witness.
 
So, let’s say the CIA has someone in captivity that they are 99% certain knows about a pending terrorist attack in the US and they are also a known terrorist. Let’s assume under normal interrogation techniques they would not talk.

So, let’s say it was the 9/11 attack, and let’s say you had family in those Twin Towers.

Anyone that would say they would prefer to not use water boarding or other alternative interrogation techniques to save their loved ones to get them to talk is full of it.

If I had family that died in a terrorist attack and you had a guy in custody that had knowledge and all you did was interview them and did not use alternative interrogation techniques, I would be beyond pissed.

This is phucking war, they cut our heads off for fun. They are also fighting a war without declaration and wearing a uniform to identify themselves which allows you to kill them under current law. No one talks about that.

All these people questioning this, how their tune would change if it meant their life or lives of their kids and it was real, not some stupid war against the “opposition” party.

Use alternative interrogation techniques and kill them if needed, it is legal, they are fighting a war without declaration and not identifying themselves with a uniform which was intended to protect innocent civilians.
 
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Where was the outrage of waterboarding under Obama when it lead to the compound where OBL was killed?

Oh, and another question. Who was her supervisor that authorized the waterboarding?
It was there, maybe you weren't paying attention.
 
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So, let’s say the CIA has someone in captivity that they are 99% certain knows about a pending terrorist attack in the US and they are also a known terrorist. Let’s assume under normal interrogation techniques they would not talk.

So, let’s say it was the 9/11 attack, and let’s say you had family in those Twin Towers.
I say lets make an exception for all cases when we are 99% certain that torture will prevent a 9/11. Otherwise don't torture people.


Anyone that would say they would prefer to not use water boarding or other alternative interrogation techniques to save their loved ones to get them to talk is full of it.
The whole point is that there is no certainty any of these techniques will save anyone. In a platonic scenario when you know for sure your torture saves lives of course you torture, but we don't live in a platonic world.


If I had family that died in a terrorist attack and you had a guy in custody that had knowledge and all you did was interview them and did not use alternative interrogation techniques, I would be beyond pissed.
Probably a good idea to keep people this emotional away from the the levers of power.

This is phucking war, they cut our heads off for fun. They are also fighting a war without declaration and wearing a uniform to identify themselves which allows you to kill them under current law. No one talks about that.
Who is they? Are you saying that we can torture anyone who doesn't wear a uniform?

All these people questioning this, how their tune would change if it meant their life or lives of their kids and it was real, not some stupid war against the “opposition” party.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then we could all torture who ever we liked.


Use alternative interrogation techniques and kill them if needed, it is legal, they are fighting a war without declaration and not identifying themselves which was intended to protect innocent civilians.
Who? How are you certain you are even torturing an actual member of this group?
 
you need to provide data to back up your stuff...just saying it doesn't make it true.
 
destruction of evidence

just for optics surprised to see hildeskank DWS didn’t sign this memo


 
So, let’s say the CIA has someone in captivity that they are 99% certain knows about a pending terrorist attack in the US and they are also a known terrorist. Let’s assume under normal interrogation techniques they would not talk.

So, let’s say it was the 9/11 attack, and let’s say you had family in those Twin Towers.
I say lets make an exception for all cases when we are 99% certain that torture will prevent a 9/11. Otherwise don't torture people.


Anyone that would say they would prefer to not use water boarding or other alternative interrogation techniques to save their loved ones to get them to talk is full of it.
The whole point is that there is no certainty any of these techniques will save anyone. In a platonic scenario when you know for sure your torture saves lives of course you torture, but we don't live in a platonic world.


If I had family that died in a terrorist attack and you had a guy in custody that had knowledge and all you did was interview them and did not use alternative interrogation techniques, I would be beyond pissed.
Probably a good idea to keep people this emotional away from the the levers of power.

This is phucking war, they cut our heads off for fun. They are also fighting a war without declaration and wearing a uniform to identify themselves which allows you to kill them under current law. No one talks about that.
Who is they? Are you saying that we can torture anyone who doesn't wear a uniform?

All these people questioning this, how their tune would change if it meant their life or lives of their kids and it was real, not some stupid war against the “opposition” party.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then we could all torture who ever we liked.


Use alternative interrogation techniques and kill them if needed, it is legal, they are fighting a war without declaration and not identifying themselves which was intended to protect innocent civilians.
Who? How are you certain you are even torturing an actual member of this group?
You really think there was some doubt about the affiliation of the very few people who got water thrown in their face?

Obama drops a drone bomb on a US citizen and his kid. Not a peep out of the liberal pussies. But make a terrorist uncomfortable to get OBL and it's the biggest moral outrage ever.

Give me a break hypocrites.
 
You really think there was some doubt about the affiliation of the very few people who got water thrown in their face?
Ahh yes, that's how we do things here in America, let the government tell us if there is any doubt.


Obama drops a drone bomb on a US citizen and his kid. Not a peep out of the liberal pussies. But make a terrorist uncomfortable to get OBL and it's the biggest moral outrage ever.

Give me a break hypocrites.
If there search function goes back that far I think you will find that I was against Obama killing anyone without due process.
 
I find it amazing that the same people on this thread criticizing her for using torture are the ones who have celebrated the killing of OBL by their Commander-in-Chief, as if the latter ever could have happened without the former.
 
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I find it amazing that the same people on this thread criticizing her for using torture are the ones who have celebrated the killing of OBL by their Commander-in-Chief, as if the latter ever could have happened without the former.
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Ahh yes, that's how we do things here in America, let the government tell us if there is any doubt.


If there search function goes back that far I think you will find that I was against Obama killing anyone without due process.

He was talking about liberal pussies why do you feel the need to respond?
 
Which part? That OBL's location was identified in part through interrogation techniques that individuals on this thread are now crucifying this lady about, or that libs on this board celebrated OBL's demise as one of Obama's achievements in office?
 
Which part? That OBL's location was identified in part through interrogation techniques that individuals on this thread are now crucifying this lady about, or that libs on this board celebrated OBL's demise as one of Obama's achievements in office?
The torture=dead OBL part.
 
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