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How many Americans make minimum wage?

The real question is how many Americans make less than $15/hour and while I don't know the answer it is a helluva lot more than 200k. The one figure I saw was 42%. I don't think the real economic costs of something like this can even be calculated because who knows how much other wages that are already higher than $15 will have to go up just so organizations can keep their workers. $15/hr is $30k per year. If I was working in a job that paid $34k per year and I could quit and make $30k at a screw around fast food job where I can fart off, do a terrible job, and sleep well at night you bet I would...so will other people. Plus, I can only imagine the affect this will have on illegal immigration. Talk about jacking up the incentive to hire illegals.....
 
A little over 3 million make minimum wage or less. Half of those make minimum, the other less for a number of reasons.

The number I had in my head was 144k, so that must have been 1.4 million. My bad.
 
Should be interesting to see the benefits/consequences play out in CA.
 
The thing that doesn't get discussed a lot in the media is that some union contracts have ties to the minimum wage within them.
 
A little over 3 million make minimum wage or less. Half of those make minimum, the other less for a number of reasons.

The number I had in my head was 144k, so that must have been 1.4 million. My bad.

I wasn't disputing your number that actually make minimum, just the fact that that is the number that people always talk about when in fact everyone between minimum and $15/hour gets a raise and people relatively close to $15 are going to get a raise. The stat I found was 42% of the workforce but I have no idea what the total workforce number is.
 
I don't believe we've had even one decade of that yet. I can only speak to my experiences as a teacher in Oklahoma, but there is a huge disparity in the quality of facilities, technology, teacher quality, materials, etc... between some school districts. I currently teach at a district that ranks near the top in average income in the state as far as the people who live in-district. They have great booster support and several bonds have been passed the last few years and they have amazing facilities, fantastic access to technology, great extra-curricular activities and support, and logically good teachers flock there (at least the ones that haven't fled the state).

My first teaching job was in a place the exact opposite. There was constant turnover at these schools and students at these schools did not have equal educational opportunities, in my opinion.

Even when I was at OSU, we had to log 48 hours of observation of classroom instruction at an 'urban' schools and also had rural schools. I spent time at a total of 4 districts. OKC, Pawnee, Mid-Del and Mulhall-Orlando. Two were awesome and two were certainly not, even though there wasn't much geographical distance between (IMO) the good and sub-par districts.
Holy Cow! We had teachers decades ago that taught better than today with less money. Hell, they had one room schools and chalk board and taught more. Early in the 1900's they could teach Latin and we can't graduate students than can read english! Don't tell me that my grandmother didn't learn more than the lazy idiots in the schools these days. They don't know history, civics, science, or english. The education system should be ashamed. The students have taken over the schools along with the bureaucrats, and the parents don't care because they are used to being cared for like a flock of sheep. Except for certain circumstances, I would be for a no work, no eat policy. The problem is, kids have learned that they don't have to work to make a living.
 
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Holy Cow! We had teachers decades ago that taught better than today with less money. Hell, they had one room schools and chalk board and taught more. Early in the 1900's they could teach Latin and we can't graduate students than can read english! Don't tell me that my grandmother didn't learn more than the lazy idiots in the schools these days. They don't know history, civics, science, or english. The education system should be ashamed. The students have taken over the schools along with the bureaucrats, and the parents don't care because they are used to being cared for like a flock of sheep. Except for certain circumstances, I would be for a no work, no eat policy. The problem is, kids have learned that they don't have to work to make a living.

I'm sure your grandmother had a fine, individual education. I don't believe that to be the norm across the country. I don't think it is a debate that if you take the average education of an American adolescent in 2016, compared to that of the average education of an American adolescent in 1900, the 2016 student would have had more and better education. How many dirt poor rural Americans never stepped foot in a classroom, or attended so infrequently that it didn't matter when they showed up anyways? How many black Americans were illiterate in 1900? How many native Americans?

And even today, there are vast differences between well-funded, well-ran schools, and poorly-funded, poorly-ran schools. Some American students are getting a world-class education, many are not. I think that has been true for a long, long time, and will be true for a while.
 
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