Dems deserve this...Joe never primaried and Dem leadership takes voting out their voters hands

[OKSTATE1]

They say Trump is a threat to Democracy but yet like a Communist country Dems do not primary Joe and they take away the opportunity for Dems to freely vote for their candidate. Dems tell their voters, sure you can vote, but just one for one candidate. Just like a communist country. Now, if they do take Joe out of the election, none of the Dems will have been able to vote for whoever they put up at the state levels in the primaries and have their voices heard. Who is the dictator? Who is trying to stay in office at all costs? Who is going after their political opponent with lawfare?

And what dis-service to the entire country that they have hidden Joe from us and lied to us about his health, lied about doctored videos, and did not put up a candidate fit for office. Dems made the entire Country and the world watch the weakest and worst Prez in history be exposed for what he is. You have China, Russia, and Iran all seeing this and they have to be wondering if the time is now to make a move militarily. Dems have put our country's security at risk with the open border and now with the worst public display of Presidential weakness in the history of this country.

We need the adults back in the room alright.

 

[2012Bearcat]

It really is amazing. Video after video of the leftist media and Democrat politicians lying to the face of the American people to prop up a walking corpse and yet Democrat voters ignore it all.

 

[my_2cents]

They say Trump is a threat to Democracy but yet like a Communist country Dems do not primary Joe and they take away the opportunity for Dems to freely vote for their candidate. Dems tell their voters, sure you can vote, but just one for one candidate. Just like a communist country.

Was this also true of the Republican Party in 2020 when Trump did not face a primary challenger? Was the Republican Party also just like a communist country?

See how silly your argument is.

Now, if they do take Joe out of the election, none of the Dems will have been able to vote for whoever they put up at the state levels in the primaries and have their voices heard. Who is the dictator? Who is trying to stay in office at all costs? Who is going after their political opponent with lawfare?

Well if President Biden were to step aside, he clearly isn't the dictator, clearly isn't trying to stay in office at all costs. And President Biden isn't going after a political opponent with lawfare. Dang man, stop just repeating nonsense that is not backed up with evidence.

With that said, I agree that if President Biden steps aside, it would fall upon the delegates at the Democratic Convention to nominate the new presidential nominee. It isn't ideal, but it definitely wouldn't be the first time in our nation's history that this has occurred. It isn't communist and it isn't being a dictator.

And what dis-service to the entire country that they have hidden Joe from us and lied to us about his health, lied about doctored videos, and did not put up a candidate fit for office.

No one has lied to us or doctored videos, etc. Drop the conspiracy nonsense, it makes you look foolish and doesn't help your argument at all.

Dems made the entire Country and the world watch the weakest and worst Prez in history be exposed for what he is. You have China, Russia, and Iran all seeing this and they have to be wondering if the time is now to make a move militarily.

And the entire country and the world watched Trump's dismal debate performance too. They watched him lie and ramble the whole debate. They watched him refuse to answer most questions asked of him. Trump just got lucky that Biden had a worse debate performance. Any other Democratic candidate would have mopped the floor with him.

btw, President Biden isn't the weakest or worst President in history. Not by a long shot. Most who rank Presidents on this place Donald Trump as one of the worst Presidents ever. But hey, you keep living in your own fantasy world.

We need the adults back in the room alright.

Well then we definitely don't need Trump and his goons back in the room.

 

[OKSTATE1]

Was this also true of the Republican Party in 2020 when Trump did not face a primary challenger? Was the Republican Party also just like a communist country?

See how silly your argument is.


Well if President Biden were to step aside, he clearly isn't the dictator, clearly isn't trying to stay in office at all costs. And President Biden isn't going after a political opponent with lawfare. Dang man, stop just repeating nonsense that is not backed up with evidence.

With that said, I agree that if President Biden steps aside, it would fall upon the delegates at the Democratic Convention to nominate the new presidential nominee. It isn't ideal, but it definitely wouldn't be the first time in our nation's history that this has occurred. It isn't communist and it isn't being a dictator.


No one has lied to us or doctored videos, etc. Drop the conspiracy nonsense, it makes you look foolish and doesn't help your argument at all.


And the entire country and the world watched Trump's dismal debate performance too. They watched him lie and ramble the whole debate. They watched him refuse to answer most questions asked of him. Trump just got lucky that Biden had a worse debate performance. Any other Democratic candidate would have mopped the floor with him.

btw, President Biden isn't the weakest or worst President in history. Not by a long shot. Most who rank Presidents on this place Donald Trump as one of the worst Presidents ever. But hey, you keep living in your own fantasy world.


Well then we definitely don't need Trump and his goons back in the room.

Libs did not primary a Prez the DOJ said was mentally unfit to stand trial over his records. Trump was fit to serve. You all getting what you deserved. It takes real work for those who are really running this country and using Joe as a puppet to hide this shit and feed lies he is fit, for 3.5 years. He never came out of his basement to campaign because he had mental problems, he has done the least amount of press conferences of any Prez, ever, because he is not mentally fit. His Press Secretary told the entire nation after Paris the videos were Doctored. He reads from cards and calls on reporters with planted questions.

Your gas lighting days are over other than the 33% that are blind swallowers.

Who is running the country? It ain’t Joe, he needs help to walk off a stage.

 

[aix_xpert]

Dems deserve this not because he wasn't primaried, but rather because they've tried since the election in 2020 to hide this. There is a reason he doesn't do daily press briefings, refuses to take questions from random reporters, and even has to be led around by the Easter Bunny during the White House Easter Egg Roll.

I don't think Dems (that matter) believe Kamala can win the election. I also don't think that Newsome can win the election. There too much of middle America that has zero interest in seeing America look just like California. We saw that all on display in the 2020 Dem primary. I assume the plan was to get through the election and then have Kamala take over after a "health scare" in 2025.
And thus Kamala makes president without being 'elected' and then can run as an incumbent in '28 where she has a record to run with rather than just her word salad speeches. So now they are stuck. Run the old guy who clearly doesn't have the capability to lead the country for 4 minutes much less 4 years, or get him to decline the nomination (doubtful as Jilly seems to like her newfound political role and living arrangements) and bring in an outsider that remains popular, such as a Michele Obama.

 

[my_2cents]

Libs did not primary a Prez the DOJ said was mentally unfit to stand trial over his records. Trump was fit to serve.

This has nothing to do with your original claim. This is spin.

Your claim was that, "like a Communist country," the Democratic Party didn't primary Biden. Democrats told their voters sure you can vote, but only for one person. "Just like a communist country."

So then, this must be true of the Republican Party in 2020 too, correct? The Republican Party didn't primary Trump. Republicans told voters sure you can vote, but only for one person. Just like a communist party, right?

 

[my_2cents]

I don't think Dems (that matter) believe Kamala can win the election. I also don't think that Newsome can win the election.

I think either could win in November and Democrats that matter think the same thing. Heck, I think President Biden can still beat Trump in November!

You are acting like that lying rambling treasonous orange clown we saw in the debate the other night is unbeatable. lol! Wake up. He is very beatable.

While I do think Biden could still beat Trump, I do think Biden is Trump's best chance of winning in November. Don't kid yourself, Trump and his people don't want a new Democratic nominee. They want to take their chances with Biden, not any other Democrat.

 

[aix_xpert]

I think either could win in November and Democrats that matter think the same thing. Heck, I think President Biden can still beat Trump in November!

You are acting like that lying rambling treasonous orange clown we saw in the debate the other night is unbeatable. lol! Wake up. He is very beatable.

While I do think Biden could still beat Trump, I do think Biden is Trump's best chance of winning in November. Don't kid yourself, Trump and his people don't want a new Democratic nominee. They want to take their chances with Biden, not any other Democrat.

I'm not acting that way at all. In fact, Trump's not really in my consideration at all in regards to my statement. I'm mostly following what my eyes from the 2020 Dem primary told me. That the Dems don't believe members of the far-left wing of their party can win. There's a reason you nominated a 77 year old Biden in '20. He was the only guy on the stage who could be perceived as a moderate. Newsome, Cackles, Buttieg, etc, are all perceived as far left, who are more focused on identity politics, green energy, and the other pet Dem initiatives vs. the kitchen table topics that matter. If you want further evidence, just look at poor Bowman. Got primaried and WHOOPED (double-digits) by a Dem moderate (in NY). (Moderate enough that MSNBC is still butt-hurt about the loss).

 

[my_2cents]

I'm mostly following what my eyes from the 2020 Dem primary told me. That the Dems don't believe members of the far-left wing of their party can win. There's a reason you nominated a 77 year old Biden in '20. He was the only guy on the stage who could be perceived as a moderate. Newsome, Cackles, Buttieg, etc, are all perceived as far left, who are more focused on identity politics, green energy, and the other pet Dem initiatives vs. the kitchen table topics that matter.

There is a little bit of truth in this. But you are also missing the determining factor in 2020.

First, I don't know what you mean by "far-left." Harris, Buttigieg, Newsom are not considered far-left in the Democratic Party. Harris, on her own, is left of Biden but not far-left. She is routinely attacked from the left in the Democratic Party. Newsom is also not far-left and in fact, his progressive rhetoric often does not align with his more moderate record, especially economically. He also has come under attacks from the left in the party. Buttigieg is not far-left either. He is actually closer to where Biden is in the party.
Far-left in the Democratic Party would be Bernie Sanders. There is even a left of him developing.

With they said, you are right, a majority (not all), but a majority of Democratic voters believed that Sanders couldn't beat Trump in 2020. I disagreed. I voted for Sanders. But, Biden won.

And Biden won because he was seen as the safe choice by a majority of Democrats. Harris and Buttigieg were running in the same lane as Biden, to challenge Bernie. Biden beat them out because of his experience, his connections, and Democrats thinking it was his time.

It wasn't all about not believing a far-left candidate like Sanders couldn't win. It also had to do with other qualities that made Biden appear the safe choice to a majority of Democratic primary voters.

With all that said, I really don't know what any of this has to do with what Democrats will do if Biden withdraws. What point were you trying to make?

 

[2012Bearcat]

This has nothing to do with your original claim. This is spin.

Your claim was that, "like a Communist country," the Democratic Party didn't primary Biden. Democrats told their voters sure you can vote, but only for one person. "Just like a communist country."

So then, this must be true of the Republican Party in 2020 too, correct? The Republican Party didn't primary Trump. Republicans told voters sure you can vote, but only for one person. Just like a communist party, right?

Hmmmm, are you ignoring what Democrats did to RFK? Of course you are.

 

[aix_xpert]

There is a little bit of truth in this. But you are also missing the determining factor in 2020.

First, I don't know what you mean by "far-left." Harris, Buttigieg, Newsom are not considered far-left in the Democratic Party. Harris, on her own, is left of Biden but not far-left. She is routinely attacked from the left in the Democratic Party. Newsom is also not far-left and in fact, his progressive rhetoric often does not align with his more moderate record, especially economically. He also has come under attacks from the left in the party. Buttigieg is not far-left either. He is actually closer to where Biden is in the party.
Far-left in the Democratic Party would be Bernie Sanders. There is even a left of him developing.

With they said, you are right, a majority (not all), but a majority of Democratic voters believed that Sanders couldn't beat Trump in 2020. I disagreed. I voted for Sanders. But, Biden won.

And Biden won because he was seen as the safe choice by a majority of Democrats. Harris and Buttigieg were running in the same lane as Biden, to challenge Bernie. Biden beat them out because of his experience, his connections, and Democrats thinking it was his time.

It wasn't all about not believing a far-left candidate like Sanders couldn't win. It also had to do with other qualities that made Biden appear the safe choice to a majority of Democratic primary voters.

With all that said, I really don't know what any of this has to do with what Democrats will do if Biden withdraws. What point were you trying to make?

You can say they aren't that far left, but moderates would disagree with you. Newsome gets to own the shithole that California has become. There's a reason that (for the 1st time in history) its LOSING population. Cackles was a Senator from California, but she's spent 4 years in Biden's shadow and not once stood out for anything other than some word salad speech. She would get pilloried. Buttigieg is the DEI representative of the Biden administration, and for anyone right of Bill Maher on the political spectrum, DEI is unpalatable. There is a reason even left-wing Blackrock is abandoning DEI reporting and mandates. So yes, to someone like you, they don't seem very left. But for those in the middle, all 3 are seen as closer to AOC squad-left than Biden-Left on the political spectrum.

 

[my_2cents]

Hmmmm, are you ignoring what Democrats did to RFK? Of course you are.

Hmmm, are you ignoring what Republicans did in 2020? Of course you are.

#thatsdifferent

 

[2012Bearcat]

Hmmm, are you ignoring what Republicans did in 2020? Of course you are.

#thatsdifferent

Not different at all, who tried to run against Trump in 2020? RFK has tried to run against Biden but the Oligarchy did everything they could to dissuade him to the point RFK is running as an independent. Stepped in it again.

 

[my_2cents]

You can say they aren't that far left, but moderates would disagree with you.

I disagree.

Right-wingers, like yourself, would disagree with me. Because to right-wingers, most Democrats are far-left. Just turn on Fox News every now and then to hear this nonsense.

btw, there would have been many moderates who would have voted for Sanders over Trump in 2020.

Newsome gets to own the shithole that California has become. There's a reason that (for the 1st time in history) its LOSING population. Cackles was a Senator from California, but she's spent 4 years in Biden's shadow and not once stood out for anything other than some word salad speech. She would get pilloried. Buttigieg is the DEI representative of the Biden administration, and for anyone right of Bill Maher on the political spectrum, DEI is unpalatable.

And all of this is just right-wing propaganda. You are doing nothing but repeating propaganda. You really showed your hand with the whole DEI hateful nonsense.

But for those in the middle, all 3 are seen as closer to AOC squad-left than Biden-Left on the political spectrum.

Again, you are wrong. Besides the fact that you don't represent those in the middle, you want to impose your right-wing ideology on those in the middle. You see Harris, Newsom, and Buttigieg as very close to AOC (because sources like Fox News pumps you with they nonsense) but that does not mean that is how all moderates see it.

btw, winning elections isn't all about winning moderates. If you right-wingers really believed that, you wouldn't have nominated the loser Trump once again.

 

[my_2cents]

Not different at all, who tried to run against Trump in 2020?

No one. And why? . . .

Because Republicans did not primary Trump. Republicans took away the opportunity for Republicans to freely vote for their candidate. Republicans told their voters, sure you can vote, but just for one candidate.

Just like a "communist country" according to @OKSTATE1 . . .

They say Trump is a threat to Democracy but yet like a Communist country Dems do not primary Joe and they take away the opportunity for Dems to freely vote for their candidate. Dems tell their voters, sure you can vote, but just one for one candidate. Just like a communist country.

The Republican Party must be just like a communist country, right Bearcat??

Stepped in it again.

Or maybe you should read all the posts and try to keep up.