Nah he changed my opinion of him. Sucks to lose him, but losing assistants is what is going to happen when you hire good people.
Cowboy RTC and the next quad
- Thread starter AtownPoke
- Start date
A happy wife is a happy life. If that is part of it, you can't blame him one bit.
A lot of talk about Gilman leaving..think he wants to compete and not coach? Loved his passion. Hoping this is one of those message board rumors that never comes to fruition.
As chase mentioned earlier.... Evan Henderson and McKenna are my top two easy picks
Saw someone on Twitter ask how Seth Gross looks in a Cowboy hat, and I fw it
If it's a family issue you can't blame him. He's a good coach. I wish him good luck.
Oliver does seem interested. He’s mentioned multiple times that he wants to coach.
I’ll say this.
If this move back to PSU is because his wife struggling to make Stillwater her home, I get it.
Years ago the wife and I moved for a career opportunity. Initially we were excited, it was only a few hours from our hometown. As time went on it became apparent that she really struggled being away from her family and friends, and didn’t adapt well to a new city or making new friends.
It’s not easy.
After about 18 months we moved back.
It wasn’t a “she won” or a typical “happy wife happy life” situation. it was just the right thing to do for the betterment of our family. She wasn’t happy and it wasn’t easy for me to know she was battling through that.
So I get it.
I sure couldn’t imagine moving to Pennsylvania.
Best of luck Gilman.
Thanks for all the help while you were here. I believe he made a big impact in a short period of time.
If this move back to PSU is because his wife struggling to make Stillwater her home, I get it.
Years ago the wife and I moved for a career opportunity. Initially we were excited, it was only a few hours from our hometown. As time went on it became apparent that she really struggled being away from her family and friends, and didn’t adapt well to a new city or making new friends.
It’s not easy.
After about 18 months we moved back.
It wasn’t a “she won” or a typical “happy wife happy life” situation. it was just the right thing to do for the betterment of our family. She wasn’t happy and it wasn’t easy for me to know she was battling through that.
So I get it.
I sure couldn’t imagine moving to Pennsylvania.
Best of luck Gilman.
Thanks for all the help while you were here. I believe he made a big impact in a short period of time.
Last edited:
Word. If I could take a job that’d (probably) pay me more and get my wife and daughter closer to her family, I’d do the same thing. Now if he goes to PSU and starts talking mess, I will have to wish him a lifetime of flat sodas and long red lights.
This is very accurate except for the logistics...depending on your def. of "few hours."
But for every man, especially a deep thinking, biblical man with the warrior gene; it is very difficult for your wife to be unhappy. It is inherent in every man to protect, provide, love and cherish. When there is stress that creates unhappiness, the man literally has to fix it or he feels his job as a man is failing.
This fact, coupled with a few smaller issues related to adjusting to the change was probably just too much for Tommy Guns to navigate for his family. Plus, I think he still has the itch to compete.
Interested to see what position Gilman gets at PSU. I would be shocked if this is as simple as Cael stole Gilman. Probably a lot more at play.
That's harsh. Maybe tone it down a little.
Agreed. Gilman was great this past season and I wish him the best. Hopefully there are no hard feelings
Ya know what. I’ll take it a step further, and I don’t care if it offends the snowflakes on here. I hope his kid joins the middle school band and practices the trumpet BADLY for 30 minutes every. Single. Day.
Hold on Slick, are you having flashbacks?
Well, to leave a job, so soon. Our lower weights struggled the most all year (except spratley). We can extrapolate that there may have been either ideological or personality conflicts between him and someone on staff.
A less delicious alternative, maybe he was here only to help DT transition for a year and then make his way back to the home base. 🤷🏼
I actually liked him and it sounded like he may have had trouble transitioning to Oklahoma
He rushed the decision to become a coach and he was having issues with the staff. He said he couldn’t work with the staff so he knew it wasn’t going to work.
Gilman rushed to become the coach. Gilman said on the outside, he and other staff kept it professional. On the inside it was not the same way. Gilman had issues with the staff. Gilman said he made a fuss few times, and stood ground. and sometimes, others did. Something happened after NCAAs which Gilman and rest of the staff didn't agree on how it was handled. He face timed DT and the decided. Says no love lost.
Last edited:
I think Gilman is invaluable to have in a room but he is an example that sometimes you need to be more than a room guy to be a successful college coach. So much more goes into it.
Sucks they couldn’t work it out but it’s that he moved on instead of there being more infighting among the staff.
I had the same question, let me know what you hear. I’m just rolling into Stillwater to start pregaming for the boys from Oklahoma concert, so needless to say, I will not be listening to any podcasts today.
I listened to the podcast and he kept referring to the staff and I thought he meant the Athletic Department staff but the longer I listened it did sound like the Wrestling staff instead. I thought he and DT were tight? TG says he doesn’t think there are any hard feelings but I can’t help but think “staff” is DT. I’m kinda surprised he’s gone out and gotten public with it.
I thought he just wasn’t done competing but that doesn’t necessarily sound like the case. He said Spratley was the only reason he wanted to stay at OSU. It sounds like he definitely wasn’t happy being on the staff.
I don’t know TG personally obviously, hate to lose him. We’re not privy with the day to day of what was going on but it’s disappointing it didn’t work out.
I thought he just wasn’t done competing but that doesn’t necessarily sound like the case. He said Spratley was the only reason he wanted to stay at OSU. It sounds like he definitely wasn’t happy being on the staff.
I don’t know TG personally obviously, hate to lose him. We’re not privy with the day to day of what was going on but it’s disappointing it didn’t work out.
Heard when he left just not best chemistry with staff and his wife is not a favorite. May tie in with other story but just overall issues. As much our decision if not more.
Sounds like no hard feelings from his tone. He is… definitely a different kinda cat, but wish him all the best until he’s going against an OSU guy.
Godspeed on the concert. We’re driving up to attend the Sunday night show right now, hence the podcasting.
...as a wrestler, he at this time is in charge...........as an assistant coach, others get to add influences......best to him and all............rs
This is huge.
It really is.
I’d add him to the staff if I’m DT. Dude is next level as a wrestling coach.
Can one of the better informed posters on here help us rubes on his background?
CWC already has Zahid, might get awkward bringing in another 86kg. I would imagine Doug is going to try and fill Ropers spot with Keck.
